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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 12, 2006 22:34:09 GMT
I think we could also say the NN in Pisces is about 'trusting the process'. You need to have faith in the unknown future when you can not see around the bend.
I think there is something significant about the NR Moon rising in your Natal, and NR Venus exact on your 12th house Mercury--your chart ruler and depositor of the Natal NN.
Wow...Return NN in the 6th (coming from Natal 10) I get the feeling that you will be working with others in the field of health, alternative healing, working with those without a voice (children, animals trees, herbs?) in a way that lights up your creative potential (Natal 5th to the foreground of the NR).
There is so much here...I think the key is waking up that 12th house Mercury...maybe you will be writing about it, or teaching...what is it you want to learn right now?
More soon, Kim
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Post by jade on Feb 13, 2006 1:31:50 GMT
Hi PM or Crissy,
I want to relpy to Kim's post on another thread. Is the nodal return a specific chart? And if so, how do you bring it up on Astrodienst?
Thanks, jadde
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Post by primamateria on Feb 13, 2006 1:47:08 GMT
Dear Kim, You've hit the nail right on the head again! I am currently (struggling a bit due to lack of focus among other things) builiding my website up (www.danaesinclair.com.au - just a splash page at the moment) as a means to build a home-based business. What I aim to offer is my services as a writer, plus image consulting to women in small businesses (I have a marketing background) as well as possibly conducting workshops and teaching methods of inspiring creativity (ironic, at the moment I'm having a hard time of it, inspite of all the techniques I could do). Of course everything I do has some element of the mystical/alchemical. My Piscean younger sister is helping me with the technical side of things (as well as hosting the website) and a very dear Piscean friend is mentoring me through the business side of things ( * I'm suddenly surrounded by beautiful Pisces people and my Taurean friends seem to have vanished~!) so yes, I am (planning) writing, and working creatively with those that don't have a voice - just as you say! Part of my current struggle has been shaking off the doubts, and fears that I won't be able to cope with working and the children (their father is not much help, and my family are all far away)... the 'not enough' of everything (time, money, energy etc) turns me to stone. I keep having to remind myself that 'everything is unfolding exactly as it should'. and that it is precisely this kind of challenge that requires the kind of creative solutions I'm usually able to find for others... thanks so much, yet again, for clarifying the NR for me - it really does make more and more sense now! joy! pm
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Post by primamateria on Feb 13, 2006 1:49:01 GMT
Jade, I used an ephemeris * ephemeral.info/too/ to find the date and time that the nodes return to their natal degree, and cast the chart at astro.com for that time... pm
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Post by jade on Feb 13, 2006 3:12:50 GMT
Thanks PM, you are a sweetheart.....
AND YOU GO GIRL...
Good luck with your venture!
Transtions brings up all kinds of feelings....I cry every Sunday! It's the only day I have off right now to process, do the laundy, pay bills and "do nothing" for a short bit. I came across a web-site of Jean Shinoda Bolen, M.D. She's a Jungian analyst and wrote a book my mother had when she was going through divorce. "Goddesses in Everywomen". I dragged it out today. I realized I'm tapping a different Archtype right now than anything I have been before, so it's new territory. She's got a great article...."Transitions as Liminal and Archtypal Situations". I saw Kim use that word today too....."liminal"....it means being on the threshold but not yet to the other side....."in between".
Inspiring and enlightening.....
Blessings, Jade
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Post by primamateria on Feb 13, 2006 4:28:09 GMT
yes, I love the word 'liminal' too! Thanks for the encouragement.... Hope you are not crying in despair but with hope and release. A hug and a warm cup of tea for you. x
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Post by chrissymgreen on Feb 13, 2006 15:19:31 GMT
dear jade, glad you got your return set up there! i did what primamateria did, i used the ephemeris to see what day the node returned to my natal degree, then i set up a chart for that date at noon to see exactly where the nn was, and then i fine-tuned from there. took me about 15 or so minutes to nail it. i usually am able to get it right on (degree, minute, second), but sometimes i am 1 second off. i figure this is OK.
primamateria & kim, thanks for your insights on my nodal return!
and no, i dont have any kids. sometimes i think i am the only (almost) 35 year old woman in texas that doesnt, and has never been married!
and thanks kim, for helping me see how the trail of dispositorships factors into the picture...i see the NN leading to mercury right on the 5th cusp from the 4th as growth from communicating my inner thoughts and/or growth from expressing my thoughts about love...or growth from expressing myself creatively? something like that.
with the SN leading back to venus conjunct the sun on the IC cusp, i guess my deepest thoughts or feelings will be centered around partnerships? that affect me at the core (sun)...this will be what i need to balance out with the NN leading to mercury stuff, i gather.
i think that pluto in an aries point degree (0° cap) in the 11th is interesting. a transformative friendship or relationship with society, quite magnified perhaps?
quite interesting!
c
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Post by jade on Feb 14, 2006 14:41:26 GMT
Hi Crissy,
Since I had the demi-return in November, I ended up going back to around that the time on astro. com and played with the time period until the nodes matched. I noticed the demi-nodes do not match my natals exactly .....so I may have have just excersized natal Cassandra on my MC (wasted breath!)
:)Jade
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 20, 2006 8:07:29 GMT
Jade, I just ran your natal chart and got the true node at 13 Libra 01' 22" Rx and the demi return with a Taurus Asc (Mars conjunct) and Moon in Gemini.
I'm too tired to figure out what's going on tonight but will check this out in the morning if I have time.
Back soon!
Kim
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 22, 2006 21:49:34 GMT
I'm still not sure why I keep getting a different chart with this data...I'm out of time again, but I might just email you the charts and maybe you can see where the discrepancy is hiding!!
Kim
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Post by jade on Feb 23, 2006 2:06:16 GMT
Thanks for your time and trouble Kim..... I got a flash to try my natal info. on the emphemeris generator link PM provided (just hour and minutes) and it comes up with 13 5 33 rx - "un-fine tuned".....I tried other Wichitas on Astro.com also and same 13.5 30 rx node. Yes, if you get a chance, please send the charts and maybe I can spot something Jade
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 23, 2006 22:12:35 GMT
In your natal chart, I have the true NN at 13:01:22 but the returns come up slightly different. I'm emailing you the charts and also contacting my software company!
Kim
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 24, 2006 4:52:57 GMT
Okay, it finally went 'BING'! The light came on. I always think of the nodes as being exactly opposite, and the MEAN Nodes always are...but the true nodes not necessarily so! They warble about and can be a few degrees off each other, so the demi return which comes back to the South Node may 'happen' at a slightly different degree (usually in minutes but sometimes a few hours of longitude) than the North Node return which is always exact. I'm still contacting Matrix software, because the print out doesn't show the difference in the North and South True nodes.... This is really bugging me!!!! I have to be able to trust these calculations! )
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Post by jade on Feb 24, 2006 5:37:40 GMT
First your site Kim then this!..... Can only imagine the concern toward your assuredy Mars in Gemini hijinx?
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 24, 2006 5:43:52 GMT
Well, I have had Mars on my sun for the last two days--lots of energy, I promise and not all of it 'creative' so to say! lol D) I did your nodal demi and return using the mean node and that came up perfect each one...we could look at those (13:15:06) if you like...want me to post them here? See what that Demi says? Kim
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