Ninth Harmonic Charts

[primamateria]

Hello everyone,

I came across this kind of chart in an article and thought to have a look at my own... it is sometimes said to indicate the Soul's purpose, and other times written about as if it can reveal one's soul mate. One website says that the chart should only be read for its aspects, and others say that houses and signs should also be read.

Does anyone here have any experience reading these charts?

here is mine:



an article here: www.aquarius-atlanta.com/aug04/harmonic.shtml

says that one looks for contacts with natal planets/points in order to find connections and direction... another website I found stated that one looks for planets which are in the same sign as in the natal chart.

the only contacts I have from this chart to the natal are the North NOde - by less than two degrees... in fact this chart has the NN in the degree of the Mean NOde from my natal. (*note to self; figure out why NOde keeps coming up with a big NO)...and natal Chiron at 4 Aries - conjunct this charts Sun by less than a degree...

As far as aspects go... a grand square and a kite! Anyone seen this before? When one reads a kite, what is the theme - which end is the focal point??

blessings, pm

[AquarianEssence]

I'm just discovering harmonics also. This chart style is hard for me to read, probably because I'm so use to Winstar. I see you and I have some contacts. Your Venus opposite my Mars. Your ME-UR is conjunct my point of love and 3rd cusp. These possible point to our being soul siblings and mates on the learning-communications plane. This is the twin of the 9th so is probably important in a 9th harmonic. Your asc=my Orpheus and your Pluto = my Ju-Ur.

Winstar produced my chart with =houses 4* on cusps so we have connections there also. Interestingly, my soul number is 22/4 so this chart feels real to me.

Mine cast on the site where yours was has my prebirth new moon, 4Virgo rising. Moon is at my postbirth full Moon which happens to be my husband's pre-New Moon. Pholus is conj my natal Medusa and I was fired 2 times, Sun conjunct and Sun opposite. Sun in 9th is square my nodes. My 9th harmonic has many more conflicting aspects than natal bringing in oppositions that don't exist in natal.

As you're pondering the NO, a little background I've discovered about these two letters. N-Hebrew nun-fish whose function is movement. Tarot, Death. It is the great centrifugal force. O is ayin=eye whose function is laughter/mirth. Tarot, Devil. (Look at the Rider-Waite version upside down and you'll chuckle) It is the great centripetal force. I've suddenly begun typing becuase, reversing au. Still pondering why. I had quite a time retraining myself to correctly spell receive. I knew how to spell it and the other ei words but found myself habitually misspelling. I became quite aware I was having a problem receiving. It has improved some since I corrected the spelling.

Here's another article: accessnewage.com/articles/astro/ha_intro.htm

[AquarianEssence]

Oh, by the way, NO is one of the ancient capitols of Egypt. Can't remember if it's upper or lower Egypt.

[primamateria]

Hi AE - that is quite a lot of contact between our charts! wow.

I love this that you wrote:

I've suddenly begun typing becuase, reversing au. Still pondering why. I had quite a time retraining myself to correctly spell receive. I knew how to spell it and the other ei words but found myself habitually misspelling. I became quite aware I was having a problem receiving. It has improved some since I corrected the spelling.

Its kind of like a 'Freudian slip' of sorts isn't it? Perhaps I also need to learn NO. I had a reading recently by an 'angelic channeler' who said to me that I should learn to say NO and stop trying to be a 'go-go-go person'.

there are other words I've repeatedly misspelled - and I'm a champ speller! Like guard and boundary and guarantee (the spell checker just fixed those up!). A theme - definitely. These words all sum up issues I've had over a long time.

I'm a 4 too.

Its been a while since I really looked at the qabalistic correspondences.. thanks for reminding me. I have a wonderful book by Naomi Ozaniek - 'the Aquarian qubalah', and have found it to be very feminine in its outlook and style - embracing many spritual disiplines as per the alchemical ideal.

the Death (the 24th path) and the Devil (the 26th path) trumps are the images of two paths to Tippareth, the heart and Beauty.

something to meditate on... thanks!

how have you found that the 9th harmonic chart relates to Soul's Purpose or Dharma?

joy! pm

[AquarianEssence]

I would have to say yes, it does speak of the soul's purpose, at least it seems too. Like I said harmonic charts are new to me. But looking at mine I can't ignore that my pre birth new Mo is rising and post birth full Mo is the 9hrm Moon. Its in the 7th so its even more interesting. The Sun here is square my natal nodes so reflects manifesting the solar (sol-soul) self through the nodes-relationships. I just noticed the 9hrm south node and Pholus is conjunct my natal Medusa. I'll have to look up Pholus' meaning again. Along with the basket, skull cap and working wedges I also have a yod with Mo sex. Ju inconjunct Saturn. My post birth full moon (also husband's pre-b new) has opportunity (sex.) to work (Saturn) with my husband (Jupiter) and we have, quite a bit. This is quite fated it seems, but I already new that, having a sexual harassment issue which ended up with civil rights resolving it. The hand of God was teaching a lesson of respecting the boundaries, both of women and of the marriage bond within the workplace. The boss disrespected that. Saturn is also involved with a t-square opposing Uranus, squre Pluto with the way out in the 9th. This all speaks clearly of the purpose of my soul, again echoing what happened in my workplace. My husband's 9hrm Pluto and Uranus have connections to my chart also. His Sun is antiscion mine, his 9hrm asc=my Mo/Su and his 9hrm Mo/Su= my Black Moon Lilith. She was also prominant when we were fired. My boss's recent ex-wife was a stripper and he looked at women as his entertainment, which is ok, as long as boundaries are respected. My 9hrm Mo/Su= AP and I guess my relationship with him has gotten a lot of notice. Besides in the work place, we're both attractive and I am over 12 years older. (Guess I don't look it though) His 9hrm Jupiter is at the karmic 15 Aquarius, conjunct my natal Arachne but is also conj. my 1st husbands Jupiter. Interesting. My ex also has his Saturn on my husband's asc. The chart when we were fired looked a lot like my ex's, same rising etc. it freaked me out. But I can see the connection. I was there to work and serve his needs. I see more intimate connections with my current husband, connections with nodes etc. My 9hrm Juno is antiscion his natal Sun also. My ex has a natal t-square that looks a lot like my 9hrm except the empty house is reversed, same sign though and I have 9hrm Neptune moving in to fill the gap 9 degrees away and conjunct my current husbands' node with 9hrm Mars square his nodes. My Winstar says my Mc is oposing my Asc. Not sure what to make of this one.

From what I see, I think the chart speaks of the soul's purpose and our soul group and mate. I also think that the sign and house is significant. I have noticed the degree of my equitorial Asc and Sun coming up in different places. I'll have to remember where. My 9hrm POF is in my natal 2nd conjunct Ceres and is trine my natal POF. This has manifest but not through my mother, more through my husband and my being a mother.

I've wanted to understand the other planetary configurations like the kite also. I'll have to search.

[AquarianEssence]

Here is a wonderful article on the kite and other patterns www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandtrine_kite.shtml

[gemstar]

Hey Everyone...I wanted to bump up this thread as I know I somehow missed reading it...and thought maybe some others might find further value in looking at their Ninth Harmonic Chart.

It is easy to calculate using Astro.com. When you open the sublist for charts, you will see one choice for Harmonic Chart and to view the 9th Harmonic chart, simply insert the number 9 into the 'date' box and voila, your Ninth Harmonic chart will appear!

I took my 9th Harmonic chart and compared it to my Love's 9th Harmonic chart....wow! We both had each one's Venus conjunct the other's Juno and vice-versa! (In different locations!) There were lots of contacts (conjunctions) between the two charts and with our natals. AND, they were different than the typical synastry between us! Just as strong!! Further...the strong synastry and contacts remained present!! Amazing....

Take a look and see what you find? Here is the original article link I think Prima had plus a short excerpt:

These charts are very profound, and actually give you a graphic depiction of your own deepest needs on the soul level. You may also look at the 9th harmonic as your soul itself, with the ascendent or rising sign being your actual umbilical connection or your first connection to life as we know it on this plane.

When you find one exact hit or conjunction, or a number of them, these depict the actual areas of soul connection. Other astrologers believe the 9th Harmonic demonstrates sexuality; while others believe it shows the capacity for joy and living life to the fullest or caring and warmth; still others believe this chart reveals the capacity to disengage in struggle or maintain a spiritually detached relationship to life. It is a general consensus, however, that this chart is particularly pertinent for understanding issues involving love and marriage.
www.aquarius-atlanta.com/aug04/harmonic.shtml

Such a fascinating chart!!
Take a look at yours and see what you might find between you and your mate's (or former mate) Ninth Harmonic...what did you find?

Hugs-
GemStar

[gemstar]

One more from Bob Marks:

The Ninth Harmonic: According to Hamblin, the 9th harmonic chart shows "…a person's capacity for joy and happiness," and it also "…shows the person's capacity to spread joy and happiness to those around (them)." While the 4th harmonic shows how we can deal with stress, strain, and struggle, the 9th harmonic, by contrast, shows how we can be at peace.

www.bobmarksastrologer.com/harmonics32.1.html

[blueorchids]

Prima,

Having the NNode virtually the same in that harmonic as your natal would seem to be doubly telling about what you are here for and what you are working toward. I wonder what the likelihood of both being identical are? It seems powerful!

I was startled when I pulled mine up. It seems so radically different from my natal. My natal has no water other than chiron/neptune/vertex. This has an extraordinary CANCER 12th house tight stellium of the NN/VENUS/POF/Chiron/. It's how I feel sometimes but not sure what that's all about! The MC is also interesting with all that energy around it. The only overt similarity between it and my natal is that my MC is LIBRA. I laughed at the 7th being ruled by AQUA; I have attracted my share of AQUAs all my life and everyone has altered me and created serious deep havoc!

I have not had a chance to look thoroughly but at first glance I see that bizarrely again my Harmonic vertex at Pisces 5 is exactly the same as D's Harmonic Ascendant. This time my ascendant is conjunct his north node (wide) and his vertex ;D . And his Moon/Jupiter conjunct my southnode and oppose my nn/venus/chiron/vertex stellium. Oh sigh...rofl

Thanks prima and gemstar for the great reading material!

[gemstar]

Hello Blue...Look at your MC being flanked by BOTH the Sun and the Moon! How do you think the trine with Saturn/Mars plays out?

Hmm....and your AC on the AP Leo....conjuncting his NNode....how interesting!!

With Venus also being conjunct NNode and Chiron...lots of love, healing and nurturing opposed by Jupiter......oh, a T-square with Moon....now that is another interesting mix. Maybe it reads as the opportunity to 'expansively' (Jupiter) reach many others emotionally (Moon) through healing and life's wounding experiences (Chir/Venus/NNode)) translated into your BOOK (trine Mercury)!

What do ya think of that??

Hugs-
GemStar

PS-In my chart compared to my love's, My Vertex was on his anti-Vertex...and the Vertex in our composite is flanked by Karma, Pandora and Jupiter....located iin 7th house! Tr Venus was conjunct our comp Vertex when we first connected! (Not to mention tr Venus was conj his n Uranus and conj my n Moon that day....it was STRONG!). We connected in further ways which I found by comparing the Ninth Harmonics . This comparison served as further confirmation.....of a major connection!

[blueorchids]

Haha GemStar. What do I think? I think it sounds bloody brillliant. But shit I have got to figure out my life. I am working on my novel everyday but artisan season is about to kick in and school for the kids. I am staring at orders right now. I bloody need to to win the lottery so I can live in a hotel for a month and just write on a laptop and order in bad take out masquerading as good...

Your composite vertex is in House 7. Lucky duck. Ours is the unbelievable House 12 with get this no true aspects....except an inconjunct to NEPTUNE??!!

[gemstar]

Quack-quack!!

Yes, time for the kids to start school...School started here yesterday for most...in two weeks for the private schools. Get them tucked into their routine.....and artisan season sounds like fun!! Orders already-thats wonderful!! $$$

As far as the writing goes....Keep at it! The timing will come together....and can not be rushed. Write as new ideas come to you...and even if you need to break up everything into two shorter reads...hey, not a bad idea! Something to consider!! You can do whatever you wish!! It can feel overwhelming....especially with life happening all around you!!

Keep at it....this harmonic chart show what gives you JOY....and you are headed in the 'write' direction!! Hahahahaha...Hee-hee, I couldn't help myself!! PLEASE forgive my silliness!! (As a Cancer Mooner, the Full Moon always gives me energy and crazy humor!!)

Hugs-
GemStar

[primamateria]

Hi everyone.... just flying through... but thought to mention that NN connection is very strong in my charts - I checked the harmonics charts from 2-10 and that NN only moves one or two degrees at most - its the one constant!

there's a venus-saturn connection between my ninth harmonic and C's... but more connections between our natals and progressed charts than I've seen before - including North NOde.

(still spelling NOde with a big NO!)

joy! pm

[Juliet]

Prima, you're a genuine North NOde-girl...
The ninth of August seems like the perfect day to check out the Ninth Harmonic!

Oh, wow, mine has the AC on 0.19 deg Aries, where the infamous 2000 CO 104 is too... Aries Sun, Pisces Moon and Venus, Cancer Merc. Progressed AC is Aries too.
Do you all relate to your ninth harmonic??

Back later. Juliet

[gemstar]

Hey Juliet....I would like to comment further on my own 9th Harmonic chart...but it doesn't have the same 'charm' as my natal chart. There is a big honking (beep-beep) grand cross....eesh. However, it also contains a lovely grand trine or two with the kite formation....(two grand trines and one kite are the main formations in my natal). I am not sure I can write about the JOY which this should represent...could be my mood today....Full Moon and all. Hmmm.......what is perplexing is an axis between my natal Venus/NNode in 7th opposing ASC and Neptune..........versus this crazy axis REPEATED again in the 9th harmonic chart but with different planets.....what is that about?? See-- Taurus and Scorpio axis!! Weird.....Let me show you.....

Through the magic of Photobucket....or whatever this is....Simply click on the image and then it should show larger!! Oh...and I will post my natal so you can see what I mean...(about that Taurus axis)...weird that it is nearly exact on the degrees in both charts, just different planets.....any thoughts?






Hugs-
GemStar