Pluto into Capricorn

[Kim Falconer]

This is huge! I'm writing an e-book on it now, with Mystic Medusa, and I want to share excerpts and insights here!

The exciting thing is, not only is Pluto in a new sign for the first time in 15 years but Pluto is crossing the Zero Degree Aries Point (hence the new board on Draconic Zodiacs).

Check where Zero degrees of the cardinal signs are in your natal (and Draco) charts! What is happening in those houses right now?


You can read more about the Aries Point HERE:

www.falconastrology.com/aries_point.htm

And more on the Draconic Zodiac HERE

www.falconastrology.com/draconic.html


All comments are most welcome.

Warmly,
Kim


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KRIS, how come i got access to modify others posts ?
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[AquarianEssence]

Hi Kim. Thanks for calling me away from my work for a nice little astro fix of a different sort. Congratulations on the writing project. I'm excited for you. We will have an opportunity to ground that Sagittarian change Pluto has instigated, while he travels Capricorn, I'm sure. His last weeks there have sure been filled with learning for me.

Right now, Pluto is in my 5th and square natal Saturn/Pluto. Someone once referred to this midpoint as skeletons in the closet. Today, I had the opportunity to here and see some of the most rewarding skeletons rattling their bones as a family legacy was recognized and honored, both by someone I work with who has become a beloved friend and one of my children. They have been given the opportunity to see their family legacy and raise it up to the next level with victory in sight.

I remember when Pluto passed over my Scorpio Moon my mother died and it woke me up to the awesome power of that little guy that wobbles along on his own weird path. It was a little scary. But This connection has made me realize that what is given to replace what is taken away is so much more than what we had before. And it couldn't be without that loss.

Inheritances or legacies are nice when they are in the form of money. But the most important legacies we get are those we inherit from our family because they weren't able to complete it. They say the sins of the father are visited on the sons for the 3 and 4th generations, or something like that but sin simply means missing the mark. When one generation leaves us with things yet to be completed because they missed the mark and we recognize that, it makes our burdens so much easier because we see the job isn't given to us to start from scratch. There has been progress made by the generations before us and the work we do will make things so much easier for the next generation.

It was so exciting to hear my child recognize a tendency he inherited from the Capricorn side of the family, and crucify it, letting it go so those genes won't be carried forward to his grandchildren.

So, if we can look at our Capricorn skeletons as a gift that rises from the grave passing from one generation to the next we can be proud that we were trusted enough to be able to carry that forward, evolved to to a higher state than it was before, perhaps even eliminating what we would rather not carry forward and increasing our store of what we do want to bring back with us in the future and to pass on to our children in the immediate future.

PS. Capricorn rules my children's (re)movable resources (their 2nd), what they bring in as legacies, along with the 8th of my friends. Pluto rules their unfinished business, their 12th, and my 4th/family karma.

[primamateria]

Yes Kim, congrats, I'm looking forward to Plutonic too.

Pluto still wyrding through my seventh, and will be for a long time yet - but right now is aspecting Uranus at 0 Libra (4th) and Saturn at 0 Taurus (11th), not to mention Mercury at 0 Gem (12th) and Nodes at 29'49 Pisces/Vir. I'm exhausted, and trying to pace myself and hold the center.

Connie, you have a very interesting family - some real 'riches' there - (I love how Pluto became the name for Hades because one was not to speak that name so He was hailed as Pluto - 'rich one' instead.) Blessings on you all for this transit.

Cap-Cancer is important around here too - I have VErtex/Anti-vertex at 24 Cp/Cn and three of my children have their moon at 24 Can, one of them born during a total lunar eclipse in those degrees.

joy, all
pm

[AquarianEssence]

Wow, Prima, how did you ever manage 3 Moons in the same place? Amazing. The son I mentioned above has a Cappy Moon. I have Mars at 4*, Vertex at 6* and true-mean node at 11-12*.

[primamateria]

yes, I know its very strange - I didn't really think much of it until the fifth baby came and I checked her chart - that degree is also opposite the composite sun of her father and I at 24 Can (anti vertex) (actually its the same in the Davidson chart too). Then I did one of those group composites for all of us (that's seven people including baby's dad) and its still the same degree. Utterly mind boggling. One of the other girls has her Venus close by too.

what is it they say about moon and the mother?? The younger three must have a similar experience of me...and that dirty rat I fell in love with who is the baby's dad. lol.

[ana]

My Venus is 0 Cancer and Moon 5 Cancer and I was apprehensive about what it might do to my money and........stuff So the subprime mortgage stuff in USA is one worry with most of my money in Ethical investment at the moment and shares nose diving everywhere But I just returned to the East of Oz from the West and so far here I have amassed $267 in fines - one old one from last year that has been hanging about due to my contesting it, plus a new identical one.........both of these were for non paying of tram tickets and in both cases I had bought the tickets One all day ticket I had left at home half way thro the day and picked up an old one in error so figure that I should not be fined
The new fine was for a ticket I could not find until the 5 ticket nazis who stood over me making me feel terrible had taken my details and moved on The second lot of fines were from taking to my bike to avoid trams and riding without a helmet on a long completely empty pavement so I was technically guilty but I mostly do this with no problem Pluto is sure giving me a hard time and I am wondering if I should leave this area again and hope a change of Longditude might help It is costing me to go out the door at the moment I have an existing Moon/Venus sq Eris sq Neptune/Chiron and there is even some asteroid in opp there too but I forget which one ................ Also my son had a financial crisis and I had to lend him some money................ and this aspect is going back and forth for some time yet.......... There are others on this forum with the same Venus position.............

[Kris]

Dear ANA,

If I remember correct Kim's Venus is at 0 deg Cancer.. Right Kim ?

Pluto is all about change, change in the current status, whatever it touches turns upside down. Where is your Venus, in which house and what are the house cusps falling in Taurus and Libra. No doubt as transit Pluto touches natal venus, money (taurus), relationships (libra) and joint resources & sex(scorpio) loom large in the lives. Look for those areas of life indicated by the house falling in taurus and libra in your natal chart. The matters indicated by those houses come into picture. Your feel is particularly intense since your natal venus is at 0 degree cardinal sign.

As for me, my natal venus, nep conjunct at 0 degrees Scorpio exactly sextile transit pluto in 6th house. I feel the intensity. Some good changes are seen in relationship front and a new love is coming up. Some drama is going on for the last 4 months. I doubt whether this relation survive but I find great compatibility in the synastry with lots of exact aspects, involving nodes, personal planets, outer planets and asteroids(chiron in particular). Saturn is very prominent too. The composit is dominated by free flowing sextiles and pluto theme. So it could be a very long, surviving union of Sat type or all or nothing of Pluto type. At the moment it is ALL but at mind and heart level. We did not talk to each other so far.

So I am waiting with my fingers crossed.......
Any comments and experiences folks.

sincerely
Kris

[Kim Falconer]

Good Memory Kris! 0 degrees Cancer it is, conjunct Jupiter at 29 Ge55! Big year for me and as you point out so lucidly, the houses ruled by Ta and Li ARE in the mix!

I've Taurus MC and Libra ruling 3rd house. Pluto opposite Jupiter/Venus coincided with a publishing deal with HarperCollins, a Trilogy, and an advance--so a Career change--full time novelist--and activated 3rd (writing) and two NEW relationships--a contract with my agent for this series and a contract with HC...Total 7th house sign on the dotted line commitments.

And this has all happened in the last few months! Phew! So exciting!

I think with Pluto Venus/conjunct, sextile or any aspect, we are looking at a chance to become more aware of our VALUES and what feels important. It isn't so much about money or love, but about how we think Money or a relationship will make us feel. We think it will make us feel happy or free or at peace...when actually those qualities come from a different place, a place not dependent on externals like finances or relationships.

I think Pluto contacting Venus is going to open doors to awareness far beyond immediate concerns and yes, looking to the house where Taurus and Libra rule is great advice!

Thanks Kris,
More on this soon!

[Kris]

Kim,
Congratulations for getting those fabulous offers. I feel very good to hear at your achievements.

admin said:

I think with Pluto Venus/conjunct, sextile or any aspect, we are looking at a chance to become more aware of our VALUES and what feels important. It isn't so much about money or love, but about how we think Money or a relationship will make us feel. We think it will make us feel happy or free or at peace...when actually those qualities come from a different place, a place not dependent on externals like finances or relationships.

Can you elaborate on the above quote.

When I had transit Pluto conjunct my natal Venus way back in 1982, new relation came up that was very intense. I do not remember having freedom or happiness at that time but extreme restlessness about the relation was definitely there. I did not have Mars connectivity at that time nor I found any in the synastry. But now, I have all the 3 feelings - happy, free and peace. I feel very very good looking at her. I get a healing touch from a very sight of her. May be due to her chiron sitting tightly on my south node in 11th house. More importantly, I am philosophical about this relation, very calm and quiet. I feel "this is transformation" alas Pluto.

When Pluto is about transformation why was 1982 experience so different from current one ? I think the KIND OF FEEL (especially peace and pleasure) has something to do with type of aspect - soft aspect (sextile in this case) and hard aspects (conjunct in 1982)

My natal 4th and 11th cusps fall in Lib and Tau. Pluto rules 5th house. The developments are justified though not to the extent I expected. The agitation I have been facing in my official, domestic life and friends circle ever since 2000 (transit sat in 12 GEM oppose transit Pluto in 6 SAG and natal Sun,Sat conjunct) is gradually easing up. Hope to have merrier times ahead with transit Jup approaching 7th cusp and progressed Venus within striking distance (3 degrees away).

Thanks for immediate response KIM

Kris

[ariesmoon]

Oh, Pluto into Capricorn. That's a rich vein, with my sun at 4 Cancer (not to mention a Venus/Mars midpoint at 0 Cancer, on the summer solstice point. I'm still pondering the implications of that one - it probably deserves a thread all of its own!) I've also got a 10th/4th house South/North node axis and, I have to add this, I'm a mix of a very Cancerian mum and a very Capricornian dad, so have had those energies swirling around me all my life. (It also has special significance with the draconic chart, as I have planetary conjunctions to the nodes - I'll think on that further for the draconic thread).

Pluto into Capricorn coincided with the beginning of an 8th house Pluto transit, so it's opposing my second house Cancer sun from the 8th. Oh boy, isn't it just. What isn't coming to light - tax bills, self-worth issues (some uncomfortable reminders there about how I used to value and nurture myself, or more accurately, about how I didn't), and my 2nd house "possession-obsession" which has been getting out of hand so up comes Pluto to remind me! If it all went up in smoke, how would I feel? Still working on that one, thanks! And it's NOT comfortable. Nor is realising that I nurtured a career (and a very Capricornian one at that), instead of myself for more years than I care to remember. But who ever said Pluto was about comfort? I simply didn't feel Cancerian - I don't think I felt very much at all, except exhausted. But hey, I chose it - no self pity, life is all about choices. All Pluto is doing now is reminding me to embrace this very deep feeling, nurturing personality, love myself as much as others, and not to lurch back into career obsession again. In other words, to get the balance right.

Pluto natally is being woken up too, by a trine from transiting Pluto - for years he's been dormant (a bit like Vesuvius) in Virgo my 5th house, exactly squaring my Asc/Desc axis in Gemini/Sag. Pulling me in half between independence and yearning for a relationship and fretting and grumbling without ever achieving very much. Pluto can't remain dormant for ever, not in the 5th (or anywhere) and certainly not with a transiting trine from the 8th. I'm finding that very deep fears are being unearthed, fears around intimacy (oh we can't avoid that one) and they just don't want to stay hidden anymore. Which is fine by me, it's about time! After what happened to Pompei in AD79, I'm trying to take it gently, but Pluto may have other ideas ..)

Some of this is dark, a lot of it is difficult. But I'm changing - a few years ago I couldn't have contemplated sharing any of this. But that's Pluto. Acknowledging outdated behaviour patterns, and hey, this is brave, doing it publicly, is the first step to accepting that we all have to shed them to grow. It's not meant to be comfortable. What I'm rapidly learning about Pluto, in any sign, is that he doesn't wrap anything in pretty paper, or sugar-coat any pills. He tells it like it is, and we take it or (at our peril) leave it. Like snakes, we can't grow without shedding a skin every so often.

[Juliet]

So glad to see you all back!

What did Pluto through the seventh bring, Ariesmoon?
I have my Pluto natally on cusp 8 and it now transiting in 12. When it hit natal Saturn in 11, I took a brave step and divorced.

Transiting Saturn on natal Pluto at 0 deg of Virgo so far has brought much needed financial discipline and structure, it has shed light in places where I had not dared even peek for years!
So after three years of months which sometimes were three weeks too long to use a ATM, I've managed to get comfortable once again. Uranus through a huge 2nd...

Transiting Pluto is still on the composite Saturn of my bf and me, but it was there anyhow when we started out in january of 2007. Trying to find a new equilibrium now the first excitement is over, and we are both struggling individually with the need to look outward again AND the need to be in this relationship with Composite Sun, Venus, Mercury in Cancer, a pair of homebodies. That was where our comfortzone is, but a Sag moon indicates another important emotional need of this relationship.

My AC is at 9 deg of Cap, wonder what that will bring.

[primamateria]

Hey Juliet!! great to read your news and have some contact again - have been meaning to email but life has been kinda challenging these past months. No excuses, I'll write!

Yes Ariesmoon I am interested to hear what Pluto through your seventh brought too - I've had this transit going for YEARS now and because my eighth house cusp is 11 Capricorn, Pluto will still be around in the seventh for YEARS to come.

My Libra moon makes relationships important, so having these Pluto types show up has been heartbreaking (or heart-making, depending on which way I view it)... still, the work of assimilating the lessons each of these has brought is very rewarding and inspiring and much poetry and art has been produced (Natal Mars in Sadge, in seventh trine tenth house venus in aries)

I'm finally learning not to problematise myself and to accept that who I am is perfect - that who is in my life is perfect too (I use the term perfect not in the sense of 'ideal' but as in 'right for me').

All these 'underworld figures' I found so tantalising and yet unacceptable are part of who I am, not some mythical 'other'. I am complete, always was - the separation and projection that I lived were illusions. Demonising the 'other' is the ego's trick to keep the small self in the position of 'right'.

I'm finally learning to say 'thankyou, I love you, I forgive you, I'm sorry' - and NO! (especially to myself!)

a very important transit - and it seems its heating up and triggering the 'power zone' of my chart with pluto - IC - Jupiter - South NOde - Uranus in late Virgo/0Libra and SAturn at 0 taurus.

something tells me I'm about to feel a whole lot freer than I have of recent years!

[ana]

My 0 Cancer Venus is around the end of 1 beginning of 2 depending on which parent you believe I got an amazing amount of art work published around Xmas which was Pluto I think doing a nice thing
Lot of my birth stuff coming up when I do self therapy
I have read and had it confirmed with informal research that around this degree of Cancer is very fertile Those men who have a child with everyone they meet often have a planet in this area
I am past having children but have been feeling very much the equivalent of broody [uk] clucky [australia] ...........[usa] in that I have got mournful about not yet having grandchildren I avoid baby clothes in shops It is very much how I felt before I had any of my own children I am looking after a couple of children apres school at present but they ignore me and stick to each other like twins which they are one year from being so it is not filling the gap My own kids seem to be less friendly than in the past towards me I just hope it will pass Pass the violin.....
I am buying a few lottery tickets around this time which I do not normally do as Plu/Jup in the 8th can empty or fill your bank account it seems It has been doing a good job on the debit side Paid a huge Tax bill ...... but I am hoping it will swing both ways............

[ariesmoon]

Pluto in the 7th? Thanks Juliet and primamateria, I hadn't looked at that - hadn't wanted to I think! So I went back to see when Pluto crossed over from my (huge) 6th house (20 degrees of Libra, all of Scorpio, and 7 of Sag, so it had been there 22 years, since I was 14!) As it crossed over into the 7th, it was Pluto square Pluto time, and, I have recently discovered, also Pluto conjunct draconic moon. Chiron was also transiting there part of the time so I got double trouble as it were, or double healing! (I was attuned to Reiki in this period too).

So - emotional upheavals, and severing redundant relationships? You bet! Unrequited love, for someone who is now one of my best friends. Initially it was - well, raw, scouring in fact, but what has come out of it is one of the friendships of my life. We have a synastric Venus/Jupiter/Chiron conjunction in Pisces. I needed to learn about unconditional love, and I needed to meet him to do it. And at the time that happened, Pluto was right on my draconic moon at 9 Sag. And yes, I felt scoured out, and as if I was transparent. I have never felt so protective, or so scared. I can see why now. Somewhere there, that love changed shape into the funny, flirty and very safe friendship it is now, and I'm learning to let go of it a bit, so I can let someone else in. (I needed a friend with a very incisive Scorpio moon to point that one out to me!)

Your comment about learning to say "NO" primamateria - that rang so true! It took me a long, long time to learn it, both in work relationships and in friendships. Pluto in the 7th led to a big promotion, I was given responsibility and power (without much support or guidance in how to use either). But I did meet people who opened my mind and expanded my thinking. I got passionate about what I was doing, and threw myself into it. The downside is that I worked myself into an exhausted heap and had to take a year off sick (with a seriously underactive thyroid which must have been getting worse for years). I was forced to stop, literally and figurately, and to reappraise. And to decide I'd had enough. I got made redundant (at my own request) as Pluto started to move out of my 7th. So Pluto in the 7th led to my severing my relationship with a career I'd had for 22 years (coincidentally - or not! - the same length time Pluto spent in my 6th house of work and service!!) I didn't know I was ready to say goodbye to it until that illness forced my hand, nor had I been acknowledging how much power it had over me. It's also meant I've reappraised friendships - ironically with Scorpionic friends - who have shown me both loyalty and deep friendship, but also on occasions manipulation and distance. I'm having to learn to say "NO" there too.

I was just about say this is going off the Pluto/Capricorn thread, but for a Cancerian, Capricorn is my solar 7th house, so Pluto going into Capricorn could be seen as a 7th house transit all over again!! I looked at my chart years ago and saw empty 7th/8th/9th houses and thought "well that's it then, boring life, nothing's going to happen there". WRONG! But I wouldn't change a thing - not the career, not the unrequited life, not the intense friendships - because these are amazing life lessons.

You're right, primamateria - you will feel freer. I do, freer than I've ever felt in my life. And that includes my teenage years I hadn't realised till today that Pluto went into my 6th house when I was 14. That accounts for my never having felt I had a teenage life - I was never relaxed around other teenagers, nor did I experiment with relationships. It's time to be free!

[ariesmoon]

I've just realised I typed "unrequited LIFE". I meant "LOVE". Or did I? Sometimes typos are very telling!