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Post by ariesmoon on Feb 27, 2008 16:24:27 GMT
I'm just catching up on the forum after a week away - a little late, I'm sorry but I wanted to post a message of love and thoughts to Ana and Kim.
I had to share this too. I wondered if anyone had picked up that we had (in the UK) an earthquake last night - 5.3 on the scale apparently. Very Pluto in Capricorn! I'm conscious now that I've been aware of it - of something profound and VERY deep in me shifting - since last week. I've had bouts of really powerful, visceral crying, like I've never been able to before, as if the tears were being literally wrenched out from the depths of me. Fine in a hotel room alone, not so fine on the train! I seemed to have no control over it. Several times a day, but after each bout of crying, an incredible lightness and sense of release. As if something burnt on had been scoured off. Had I not been aware of what's going on astrologically I think I would have been off to my doctor, as it scared me so much to start with. But then I decided to welcome it.
I'd put the crying and some dizzying mood swings (elated highs, fiercely dark lows) down to having Pluto in Cap transiting in the 8th opposite my Sun at 4 Cancer (and the Venus/Mars midpoint at 0 Cancer). It certainly coincided with becoming aware of a fiercely protective and nurturing love for someone. But it's resolved itself much more quickly. Pluto will be there for a while yet and the crying and the mood swings have stopped, I haven't felt them since the quake. I think this is giving me the first real indication of what Pluto in Capricorn means in my chart, with such a strong Cancerian focus in my tropical (I've also got Juno and Ceres conjunct Sun, both at 7 Cancer). And with draconic planets at 1 Aries, 1 Cancer and 1 Libra. It's beginning to shift some very, very deep stuff.
The quake happened at 1 am UK time, and I wasn't at all surprised when it happened. I just thought "ah yes. That makes sense". When it started, I'd just finished writing a letter saying things that had been in my heart for months but which I'd never expressed. For me I feel it has real significance. Something has cleared, one particular blockage has shifted, and something that's been gnawing away at me for months has resolved itself.
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Post by ana on Feb 28, 2008 11:15:39 GMT
I heard on the Oz telly that the quake epicentre was near Lincoln and one person injured This is just not British this sort of thing {I am expat English so can say that] Yes it does feel like a time when a lot of truth is emerging from the depths It is exciting but scary and you don't know what will happen next I kind of feel like I am have been living with someone for a long time without knowing them and am now getting to understand them- but it is me
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Post by ariesmoon on Mar 7, 2008 19:36:58 GMT
I can really identify with that Ana - it feels the same for me.
I wanted to share an experience of a reiki healing treatment as it's very relevant to Pluto in Capricorn, it's about power and how easy it can be to cede it to others. And how that can become a habit that's very hard to break. I had a reiki treatment yesterday and knew straight away it had accessed something very deep, but I wasn't sure exactly what, until this morning. What surfaced were memories of being bullied at school - over 30 years ago. It wasn't physical, it was psychological - the bullies detected a poor self image (my skin was bad at that age) and I allowed them to exploit my good nature and a desperate need, then, for others' approval. I even ended up doing homework for them until a perceptive teacher spotted it. I thought I'd dealt with it and dismissed it a long time ago, and hadn't given it much thought over the years, but the anger of how I allowed them to take my power away clearly needed to surface so that I could begin to forgive those who did it.
Pluto in Capricorn is opposing my 2nd house Sun in Cancer so issues of self-worth - and of owning my own power - are very much to the fore. I seem to be surrounded by people facing the same issues too! It's making me realise how much in the past I've gifted power to others - at school, in work, and in some friendships. Because of the need for approval, and (this is hard to acknowledge) the fear of not being liked if I didn't. (This all ties in with a Saturn/South Node tight conjunction in the 10th and, of course, with Capricorn).
Pluto in Capricorn seems to me to be bringing fears to the surface which have led me to give power away, so that I can acknowledge them and let them go. Because Pluto is just beginning a transit of my 8th, my sense is that this is in preparation for a deep 1-1 relationship - I haven't previously been able to draw boundaries to prevent myself giving away all my power to others. I need to be able to recognise where those boundaries need to be, in order to know how much is appropriate to share with others and what I need to keep for myself.
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Post by ana on Mar 16, 2008 2:49:03 GMT
Yes the power thing is very relevant to me too Also with Pluto hovering around the 8 cusp I was fined twice for not having a ticket on the tram by a bunch of minimally trained young inspectors Uniformed people come under Pluto Both times I had an all day ticket and could not find it The first time I had thrown it in the bin and home and picked up the ticket from the day before in error The second time was totally cos I was distracted by 5 intimidating ticket inspectors around me like the Mafia After 9 months of appealing and waiting and chosing to go to court the case was finally dismissed on the first one With a lot of deep satisfaction for me Now I have to wait to go through it all again for another case dismissed but the stress of being made to look dishonest on the tram, the slowness of the system and knowing from others that they do not read the appeals has been wearing The system is really heavy and draconian and highly inefficient and I am not going to be its victim and pay the $158 fines they try to get out of you as a lot of people cannot bear the thought of going to court to prove they paid for their ticket Happily I have now moved to my old town where you have a travel card and the computer records your ticket purchase against your name [ I have Neptune in Libra sq this opp which adds the confusion element and I often lose things temporarily cos of this] Internally the deep psychic stirrng seems to have stopped and things are mellowing out but I am not taking it for granted.............. and I have to find a permanent address here which may be problematical with Pluto in Cappy opp Venus/Moon Cancer in 2nd house and Saturn in the 4th house lurking round my Juno/Merc
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Post by ana on Mar 29, 2008 13:52:06 GMT
Since this thread seems to have dried up I thought I would post that my friend had a wonderful funeral Many people said it was the best one they had been to....he had Neptune rising and had a large circle of friends and there were sung chants and readings as he is Baha'i And a party was held at the beach for his 60th birthday soon after and strangers strolled over and played music His doc cried and said he is never going to let someone stay overweight in his practice again.........[easier said than done] And now busy bees are being held to clear his house which is total chaos And I am living there having cleared myself a little clean and tidy room as I had to travel to help The next event is a memorial service which the Baha'i's always do it seems He left a lot of poetry and dreams on sheets of paper all over the place which is fun to read and collect as we work The Baha'i's do not believe in reincarnation but I do...........................
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Post by ariesmoon on Apr 18, 2008 16:21:16 GMT
Pluto going retrograde again - heading back out of Capricorn - is stirring up all kinds of things for me. I think it's more because it's opposing my Sun than because it's in Capricorn, but I'm getting faced with challenges in several areas where there are entrenched behaviour patterns, and I'm being given no choice but to deal with them! They are very Plutonian too (and Pluto in the 8th!). Obsessive checking (of doors, particularly if I'm staying in friends' houses and they've entrusted me with keys!) Obsessive spending, well above my budget, and obsessive love, usually unrequited. I'm being presented with situations that are bringing all these behaviours to the fore and which push me to acknowledge them - all of which is a good thing, I'm not complaining, it's just that there seems to be no escape!
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Post by primamateria on Apr 20, 2008 9:33:32 GMT
*sigh* when did Pluto go Rx? That would explain some things around here too... It might be a good idea if we can all come up with some of the other Pluto themes - thoughts become things, after all.
Pluto regenerates... I've noticed I have more pronounced cheekbones this week - I feel and look younger!
and...
lately I've felt a call to get in touch with my foundations - walking, feeling feet on the Earth and focusing on the base chakra, muscles of the p/floor and the structure on which my life, inner power and confidence is built. (in a holistic manner)
peace, all pm
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Post by primamateria on Apr 20, 2008 9:36:46 GMT
ps. I don't mean to belittle anyone's experience of Pluto in Capricorn, least of all losing loved ones... a firm believer in fully experiencing what life presents, as an expression of soul and not one to push solar heroics forward in times of darkness - these are valid and important and bring a beauty of their own.
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Post by ariesmoon on Apr 20, 2008 15:21:43 GMT
New growth and recycling - there are two positive Pluto themes. Plants that I thought I'd lost through not protecting them over winter have put out wonderful new growth, and I've finally plucked up the courage to go really deep in the spare room, I wasn't sure if something was living in there, I hadn't been into the corners for so long! The room is now cleaned and is full of space and light, and I have a real sense of what I need to keep and what I need to discard. Cancerians are well known as hoarders and I'm probably not the only one who has kept broken stereos, redundant PCs, boxes of broken jewellery and books I'll never read again, for years on end. I needed a shove to admit that I can part with most of it, and another shove to get it moved out. I don't think I've finished yet. But there's already lots that can be recycled and reused, and some that can be sold on, so that's all very positively Plutonian!
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Post by ana on Apr 26, 2008 4:36:16 GMT
Back to Venus 0Cancer with opp from transitting Pluto First I lost a male friend to a heart attack Then another male friend not sure why [Both over 60 and did not look after themselves health wise so not too surprising but early] Then an Aussie woman in another state rang and she had had open heart surgery in China with acupuncture and no pain during or after the whole process after Aussie doctors not being able to diagnose her problem Clever people in China Then another woman in yet another state rang to say she is having a procedure to put a camera in her heart to see why it is racing so fast [She did survive being the innocent victim of being run over by a runaway bus 2 years back which began the problem....She is so lucky to be alive ] So it seems safe to say that Venus/Pluto has a heart theme In Chakra stuff {very technical term"stuff"] Venus rules the heart And my coz has been waiting for 2 years for an agency to contact the son she had to give up many many years ago She has 5 Cancer rising and a Cappy Moon in 7 He has responded to initial contact and we are waiting with bated breath for the next stage This is a real Plutonian reunion for her and for me to to a lesser extent as she was hidden in my family home when she was pregnant and such was the secrecy that no one ever dared speak about it to her for about 40 years and she buried her feelings for that time She has never had another child and has even changed her hairstyle to a more feminine style to look more like a "mum" and I do so hope it goes well.............
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Post by ariesmoon on Apr 28, 2008 16:35:19 GMT
Oh yes Ana, I think Venus/Pluto very definitely has a heart theme. On the day when I fell deeply in love with someone on sight there was an exact (within 10') Venus/Pluto trine (Venus was conjuncting natal Uranus on the cusp of my 5th house too, and Pluto was on the cusp of my 8th). With a transit like that, something was going to happen!
And I currently have progressed Venus at 1 Libra (so square transiting Pluto in Capricorn) plus my Draconic Venus is 1 Aries squaring it from the other side. So strong Venus/Pluto contacts making a Cardinal grand cross with my Cancer sun. It's very intense, with a lot of churning emotions. If anything the Pluto influence is helping bring out my true love nature, something I had suppressed for a long time, so I'm welcoming it.
Interesting you mention the heart chakra. I've been very drawn to both rose quartz and malachite recently, both heart chakra stones. And what a touching story too about the reunion.
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Post by ariesmoon on May 14, 2008 15:57:10 GMT
Pluto in Capricorn seems to me to be having a very powerful influence on home and family matters, through the polarity to Cancer (this may just be as I'm an early Cancerian) and stark messages are being brought home to me about family needs. And through that, about my needs too, and with elderly parents, how I balance the two. I'm finding I'm called upon to support family and friends in situations where the advice I offer, is exactly what I need to hear! I found myself counselling a family member today in a highly stressful situation, and the messages I was giving her were so relevant to me, about the need to accept when something is truly out of your control, and to surrender to it (a very Plutonian concept). I really, really needed to hear that myself - her situation was severely delayed transport, mine is about accepting that the love I am offering someone may not be returned.
Pluto seems to be stripping away - quite ruthlessly! - what has been a very restrictive behaviour pattern - the need to be in control when you can't be, and that includes, tough as it is to say, attempts to control by loving. At the same time, it's helping to highlight and bring forward the very purest Cancerian energy, that of unconditional nurturing and caring.
Is anyone else finding that Pluto is working this strongly through Cancer issues?
I'm adding to this a few days on, as stuff is coming up fast for me and I wanted to share it. More strong insights on Cancerian themes - in particular the instinct to want to protect others (and the self) from harm and pain. It's hit me strongly in the last day or so that I have to accept that however protective I am, I can't always prevent people I love being hurt whether physically, or by others' words and actions. And that it may be part of their life's journey to experience that pain in order to grow. There's an issue here for me too about self-validation - it's good to feel needed, as if you're the only one who can protect someone.
This might all sound self-evident, but it hasn't been to me, and it's hit me with great force. I have tried to protect people - and been upset when I failed - which of course I was going to. Accepting that it isn't always possible is proving a tough lesson - which is inevitable with Pluto - but again it's one I needed to learn.
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Post by ana on Jul 15, 2008 15:54:54 GMT
I just reread this thread after the Nyx thread mentioned it..........yes with a ton of planets from 0 to 18 Cancer I am learning to let go of worrying about my son with substance abuse problems The reason being he seems to be dropping all drugs himself finally which is a shock after 12 years and a variety of drugs I have to totally trust and let go if we are going to get along I have to not worry that he is going to relapse Just send love I do not know how it will go but it is not my journey it is his I have learned a lot thro what he has been thro and use it to help other parents And I have to accept that 3 kids over 23 do not need me muchor even feel much need to let me know what is happening in their lives except at festival times but there are no grand children Just 2 large granddogs The letting go seems to be very final at this time and I am filling my life up with interesting things to do There is an online dalliance with a man who rang from abroad to speak to someone else -not a singles site one- and I can tell he is wondering as I am if it is anything or not He is coming here later in the year I do not like on line things unless you meet fast as it can be such a downer when you meet............
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Dec 28, 2008 19:44:36 GMT
I've been looking forward to Pluto moving back into Capricorn because it will trine my natal Mercury, Pallas, Venus and Pluto stellium in early Virgo. Some transformation in the relationship area of my life would be welcome, especially with a trine! But I noticed also that Pluto will at the same time sextile my natal Jupiter and Neptune in early Scorpio. And, I just realized that Pluto is now squaring my natal Eros on my Aries Point. Eros is the point of a yod with my Mercury, Venus/Pluto stellium and Jupiter/Neptune. With Mars currently joining Pluto, there's some energy heating up there! Unfortunately, there's no current relationship to expend this energy on! But I guess it may bring one in. ;D
Mars will move on, but Pluto has all year aspecting these planets and the yod configuration. Should be interesting!
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 28, 2008 21:20:42 GMT
I think it will be interesting! Yes! And there is always a current relationship to expand . There is always our relationship with ourselves and as I've said before, self-love is the most powerful vibe-shifter-manifestation-magic around. Add more self love into your life and watch your world change!!! Perfect timing to think up the relationship of your dreams!
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