Where is My student Record Book?

[Amoroso]

Here is the link to the chart when I asked "Where is my lost student record book?

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I am just learning to post this stuff so bear with me.

Anyway, in locating lost items, with what do I start?

I am assuming I am represented by the sign on the first house cusp, and my record book is on the 7th?

Gotta find this thing! Might as well learn something about horary while I'm at it!

So, kick me off with one thng to look for and I will ask questions as we go along.

Blessings,
Amoroso

[gemstar]

Good Luck Amoroso!! I've been interested in Horary for a while..this is a great way to learn for all of us!! Thanks! Hope you find it soon!

In the Catholic religion, we pray to St. Anthony to help us find lost articles...wouldn't it be too bizarre if the asteroid placement for Anthony on that day ended up pointing in the direction of finding your record book??

Just a curious thought as so often the parallels within Astrology esp. asteroids always amaze me!

Hugs-
GemStar

[Kris]

Dear Amoroso,

I dared to analyse the chart. The news is not good for you. The record book must have been soaked if not buried. Search accordingly. I give the analysis if you find it.

regards
Kris

[Kim Falconer]

Finding lost items is one of the easiest aspects of Horary. The rules are clear,

1. Is the chart radical and fit to read?
2. Yes, 22 degrees rising, Moon not void of course and Saturn not in the 7th.
3. Where is the book? This is a 4th house question if it is mislaid. The second house rules the possession.

It is in the home or the place that you usually work with it if:

1. the ruler of the 2nd is angular, or your co-ruler Moon (YES), or the natural ruler Venus or the depositor of the Fortuna (Always calculate the fortuna!) Fortuna is 00 Aquarius in the 6th. Deposited by Saturn in the 12th and Uranus angular.

The book is in the home or where you are likely to work with it the most.

Now, Where??? Because the ruler of the 2nd is not angular itself, the book will have to be looked for (I’m sure that’s a given at this point)

We use Mercury as ruler of the 2nd to guide us.

The house designates the part of the house by location to look first (or the office or place you work with it most) and the sign direction pinpoints it, like this:

11th house designates the SSE (South, south east part of the home). Go to that room and then look North (for Cancer). Look among other things, (Mercury is not alone) and look low, possibly around pips, plumbing or drain? It is near a cusp an may be near a window, cupboard or drawer.

See how you go.

Kim

[Amoroso]

Gemstar, Thanks for the hint, although there is no asteroid Anthony and I haven't taken the time to hunt for the nearest sounding name.

Kris, You can't leave a message like that without more information!!! It sounds like my book is floating in a drain pipe somewhere.

Kim, thanks for the detail. Haven't found it yet, but I use it at home as well as at the school, so I need to use the hints for both locals. That 4th house Moon makes it look like it's in the home.

Blessings,
Amoroso

[Kris]

Dear Amoroso,

Extremely sorry for the lapse. The book is in the premises of your home including courtryard. Since I am new to horary, I wanted to cut short my words and in the process I forgot to give vital information. Very very sorry for that.
Regards
Kris

[Kris]

Dear Amoroso,

The lost book is indicated by 3rd house since it is a communication material. Venus the lord of 3rd house befits the analogy as the book contains artistic material, your arena of work.

Venus is posited in Cancer in 11th( profit) applying to Saturn in 12th. Watery signs are known as "fruitful" in horary. The indicators are not retrograde. So the book is retrievable.

Saturn is playing all the game, that's why you were not
able to locate it for a long time. Cancer is for home and also the nature. With Venus and other planets there it is over emphasized as well. The book should be at your dwelling unit or its surroundings - courtyard. Is it protected ? Sat in horary is not known to protect. Sat must have buried it. Go to the northern (Cancer) corner/room of your house and look at SE corner (Venus). What is there ? Is there a pile of material ? Remove and see if the book is there. Do you have basement (Saturn) in your house ? Go to the northern corner of the basement and look underneath the piled up material, if any.

Third alternative is to search at the northern corner of courtyard in similar fashion described above.

The book must have caught the sweat out of humid weather.

You are sure to find it.

Regards
Kris

[Kim Falconer]

Interesting approach, Kris. I alway use the ruler of the 2nd to locate the missing article (possessions of the querent 1st). I got to the direction by house first (Mercury in the 11th = SSE ) then the direction of the sign (North for Cancer..and low for Water signs) It is in the home because one of the 4 indicators (Moon, ruler of the 2nd, natural ruler Venus and depositor of Fortuna) is angular. That means home or place where she works with it most.

I take the third for communication, yes, but the actual possession I see as the 2nd.

The moon’s approaching aspects describe actions to come. The final Major aspect is the conjunction to Pluto. I agree that may not bode well for the shape the thing will be in when she does find it.

Kim

[Kim Falconer]

PS The opposition to the sun can not be completed before the Sun changes sign. Only in sign applying aspects count with the Moon. That inconjunct to Saturn in the critical cardinal degree of 26 Cancer may "force" the querent to take responsibility in some way. With the Chart ruler at 29 degrees, she is running out of patients!

;)Kim

[svenskasfinx]

lunarscorp said:

I can't actually see the chart, for some reason it shrinks to an unreadable size when I click the link. Having said that I've got an occasional gift for remote viewing and got a flash of a blue covered book in the vicinity of what looks like a library of some description, tall wooden shelves (older style setting, not like a modern library) packed full of books ...having said that, about half an hour later I saw a very simlar picture on an article at astrodienst, so whether I was picking that up in advance (this happens to me sometimes) or if that was a confirming sign, I have no idea sorry! (if the book doesn't have a blue cover, ignore this post!)

what you can do to see the picture on the link is cross over it with the curser... it will give you a box to expand it if you are on windows XP... just so you know ok?

The remote viewing is really cool.. I have something like that but quite different..

..for example if someone usually wears something and they don't have it on.. and then I meet up with them not knowing anything I have seen an actual pendant hanging on someone which was not even in the same country once.. not only that, but it had no marks either and later was told not only I was correct.. but found it actually.. amoung his older things about a year later...

I think I also get flashes of things that happened, only after I see the person in that same "placement" .

Take care,

svenskasfinx

P.S. I haven't had much to add to this one considering that locating things even with horary has not been my best work I use my son for that! He seems to know where EVERYTHING is.

[Amoroso]

Scorpy Moon,
It IS a blue book! I will keep everyone posted. And while I need to find this particular book, I am so interested in the dialogue between Kim and Kris I am actually not looking very hard. There just aren't enough hours in the day....

More soon,
Amoroso

[Kris]

Dear Kim,

Your approach is correct following normal principles of astrology. I do consider 2nd house for possessions but in this case the "value" attached to the book took my mind. Amoroso mentioned elsewhere about the loss of book but the seriousness took centrestage with horary query. She is really concerned, steady and worried about this particular possession, Taurus type. It is not valuable but invaluable.

With this, Venus came to my mind and I find Xth cusp in taurus and 3rd in Libra - communication material used in profession. In horary first impression is the best to hang on to. The harder you try the poorer the result would be. So I straightaway looked at Venus. Over emphasized Cancer is the focus of the chart with Venus therein doubly confirmed the 'flash'. In India, Priests look for signals from the surroudnings the moment query is hurled. The symbolism works the best as I heard.

Where had it gone ? Gone to north as it is in Cancer. Where it could be. In its normal direction SE. What indicates burial - Cancer the deep with Sat therein. I doubted the condition of the book owing to the presence of Saturn. In horary, Sat and Mar are pure malefics with no credits whatsoever. Wetness is indicated be Cancer as well.

So cancer is overemphasized. It is a fruitful sign. Retrograde motion of significators negate the efforts. In this case none. So I am optimistic of locating the book.

I attach Moon to the mindset of the queriest and nothing else if not a significator to the query. Moons' last major aspect to Pluto suggest he is very irritated with the loss of book. Thank God I was not physically present, else she would have shot me for giving meaningless message.

Amoroso, make it convenient to search the book at the earliest. Delay strengthens Saturn.

Kris

PS: As I started writing this message, FM radio beamed a beautifully scripted romantic song.

[Kim Falconer]

Thanks for that rundown Kris. I'm glad you are on this horary board too.

Kim

[Amoroso]

"Thank God I was not physically present, else she would have shot me for giving meaningless message."

Ha, Kris, you make me laugh!

Thank you all for the details. I am not sure I understand all of them, for example, how does one tell what the "final aspect of the Moon" will be?

Still have not found the thing. I looked diligently several days ago, and again today.

Another interesting thing about Venus is that this student record book holds my accounting for students' lessons and payments. Without it I can not report accurately on my time sheet for the school where I teach. This reflects the Venus/Taurus (money/accounting) and shows why it is distressing to lose it.

Also, Kim wrote that the aspect to Saturn will force me to take responsibility in some way. I had to call the school's accountant and ask that last month's time sheet be faxed to me, so I could reconstruct the records for this month. My copies of these timesheets are in the student record book!!!

Will keep looking.

Thanks again,
Amoroso

[Kim Falconer]

Well, that does sound like Saturn then!

The final aspect of the Moon is her last applying (approaching) aspect BEFORE she, or any other planet, changes signs.

The Moon is 7 degrees Sagittarius but can NOT complete the opposition to the Sun before the Sun changes sign, there for that is not her final aspect. Her final major aspect is the conjunction to the Moon. The inconjunct to Saturn is her final minor aspect. The inconjunct often requires the aid of a third party…and the need to take responsibility (pay the price) in this case, the need to get the accountant to help with a copy of the last months time sheets.

Interesting. Could it be buried among some banking or financial papers?

Keep looking!
Kim