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Post by Juliet on Sept 3, 2007 17:44:43 GMT
Dear 3rd,
This is strange, yours is the fourth gfriend-gfriend problem of this kind I'm hearing about this week! And they all seem to have the same text 'What about what I want to do?' Sorry if I sound a bit sarcastic... Seems like they all feel rather duped and victimized and react accordingly. I had a friend complaining last Thursday, my colleague was on the receiving end of a similar conversation and my daughter too! I was flabbergasted and said I was sorry I'd apparently hurt her. I could not find other words, did not feel the need to defend myself at all.
I'm happy Pluto and Venus will go direct the 12th, the day we'll have to go to court, but even if I don't win the case, this will be a good thing for me! Enjoy your day!!!!! When is your b'day??
Juliet
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 4, 2007 1:26:20 GMT
Dear 3rd, This is strange, yours is the fourth gfriend-gfriend problem of this kind I'm hearing about this week! And they all seem to have the same text 'What about what I want to do?' Sorry if I sound a bit sarcastic... Seems like they all feel rather duped and victimized and react accordingly. I had a friend complaining last Thursday, my colleague was on the receiving end of a similar conversation and my daughter too! I was flabbergasted and said I was sorry I'd apparently hurt her. I could not find other words, did not feel the need to defend myself at all. I'm happy Pluto and Venus will go direct the 12th, the day we'll have to go to court, but even if I don't win the case, this will be a good thing for me! Enjoy your day!!!!! When is your b'day?? Juliet Funny about all the gfriend issues. This particular friend of mine has done similar sorts of things before - once she publicly scolded a bunch of her friends in a restaurant because it was near her birthday and she expected us to pay for her dinner (2 of us were unemployed at the time). She purposefully didn't bring any money because she anticipated that we might not pay for her - so it was very manipulative. Most times she's good to be around, but she has these issues with feeling entitled. Ugh. I wonder if it's Venus retrograde that has women thinking about these issues - Aphrodite likes to be paid tribute to and gets angry when she doesn't get her way? Anyway, I saw a couple of other gfriends over the weekend and we had a lovely time with no problems. My bday is 9/11. I have a solar eclipse on my birthday opposing Uranus - yikes! However, tr Venus will be conjunct my natal Ascendant.
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Post by Juliet on Sept 4, 2007 6:41:41 GMT
Well, my gf has a reputation for blaming and manipulating too! She is very, very sub-assertive and gets explosively angry once in a while. Aries Moon, I stay away from her when she drinks f.i.! I used to take care of her, she has OCD, but after a disastrous and exhausting vacation a few years ago I'd decided that pattern had had its best time.... The friendship had changed considerably since then and I wonder if it will survive at all! Don't worry about the Solar Eclipse. Uranus can bring lovely surprises, expect them! I've had it opposing my Mars for ages and this has been one of the sweetest years of my life... Great, Venus on the AC. Enjoy!!! Juliet
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Post by ana on Sept 6, 2007 2:55:42 GMT
3rdhouseN I read about your friend's outburst with interest as my Merc is 3 Virgo con Juno 1 degree I guess it shows she enjoys your company.................... I have found a total lack of communication from anyone happening No post No calls from the grownup kids who are both 2 Virgo {Sun one ASc the other} No friends ringing Nor have I felt to call them But I must override that as I am curious to see what is happening with them I have also had to make a big effort to control negative thinking and push it into the positive
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Post by Juliet on Sept 12, 2007 12:11:04 GMT
Today I had to go to family court to defend my request for more child support from my ex! All went well. My ex is still so angry and threw mud, was trembling with anger. I was innerly convinced of the importance of keeping it all as businesslike as possible, and did not defend myself at all, but stated facts. (I am not angry anymore, nor do I feel a victim) My attorney praised my attitude. The judge told us he will look at the facts and the numbers. 31st of October I will know more...
And my sweetheart and I will fly to Spain tomorrow!!! A vacation for my fiftieth birthday... Love to you all! Juliet
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 14, 2007 23:15:42 GMT
Juliet: Sounds like you're in a good space right now, and able to let your ex's problem be *his* problems and not push your buttons. Have a wonderful time in Spain!! And good vibes your way for the decision on child support. Just turned 49 myself. 3HN
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 14, 2007 23:20:51 GMT
Weird feelings with Saturn sitting on my Mercury and Venus/Pluto (0, 2 Virgo) and with transiting Venus sitting on my Ascendant/Moon (17/18 Leo). Much desire now for love and relationship, but a discerning and careful eye towards the prospects. Venus/Pluto can get carried away (as can Moon/Uranus - Uranus at 14 Leo), so this Saturn transit is feeling like having a kindly but protective auntie looking after my best interests! 3HN
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Post by tom on Sept 18, 2007 18:52:41 GMT
i attended a 10-day vipassana meditation retreat, beginning on the 5th - the oft-repeated words of the teacher: "work ardently, work persistently, work patiently" - totally saturn in virgo vibes - but it took the actual ingress for me to choose to sit for ten days and meditate.
i've never worked so hard in my life - a good sign of my response to the energy - i'm encouraged...
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 19, 2007 11:14:17 GMT
Sounds great, Tom. Good luck with that.
I'm finding myself a bit stumped right now. Saturn on my Mercury and Venus/Pluto I guess (0 and 2 Virgo). Asking myself how I want to spend my energy, what I value, what's deeply important. It's not yet clear. Tr Uranus is also opposite my Virgo Sun in the 2nd - isn't that supposed to be giving me some insights?!
And also feeling this tr Venus still on my Asc/Moon (17/18 Leo) which feels a lot of love but nobody to share it with. Sigh.
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 21, 2007 16:14:10 GMT
Well, Saturn is on my Venus/Pluto and my mom just died. Rather suddenly, though she has Alzheimer's. Might be Uranus transiting my 8th house, no? Opposite my Sun.
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Post by Juliet on Sept 25, 2007 22:11:56 GMT
Dear 3Rd! That must have been quite a shock! I'm really sorry to read about your mom (was away on holiday) ... How are you? Strength and love, Juliet
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Sept 26, 2007 16:57:32 GMT
Dear 3Rd! That must have been quite a shock! I'm really sorry to read about your mom (was away on holiday) ... How are you? Strength and love, Juliet Thanks, Juliet. Yes, it was a shock. But she died in her sleep (probably a stroke), which is all most of us can hope for, and she was spared further misery with the Alzheimer's. She was still writing in her diary - had a brief note on her last day. She was very unhappy about what was happening to her and didn't want to live like that. So it was a blessing, really. But sad for us, of course, and very sad to know what she was going through. Much to think about... There was also the chance to go through old photos and saved letters from much happier times, and that was nice. We'd had a nice visit in July and I'd talked to her by phone a few days before. My dad took her out her last evening for their 54th anniversary, brought her flowers and took her out for ice cream, which she absolutely loved. My brother had also seen her that day. Thanks again for your kind thoughts. L.
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Post by Juliet on Oct 2, 2007 6:56:17 GMT
Dear 3rd, How are you?
I hope this brings some comfort: to realize her last day was a happy one. How sweet of your dad to bring her flowers and take her out for ice cream. Gave me goose bumps to read that! Love, Juliet
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Post by 3rdhousenorth on Oct 6, 2007 16:13:11 GMT
Thanks, Juliet. I'm doing okay. Since I didn't see her on a day-to-day basis, sometimes it's hard to realize that she's gone. The holidays will be hard this year. Meanwhile, arranging her memorial service, and getting on with life as usual. Still, lots to think about.
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Post by ariesmoon on Sept 4, 2008 1:09:30 GMT
I'm picking up this thread as I'm experiencing a transiting Saturn opposition to natal Chiron and square to Mercury, and can't sleep because of the worst neuralgia pain in my jaw that I've ever had! No commercial painkiller will touch it. The Cancerian in me wants to be nurtured (unusual for me, Ariesmoon usually butts in and says it doesn't need nurturing,thanks. But it does now). It wants the same compassion and unconditional love that I seem to hand out to all my friends without limit (Chiron/Jupiter in Pisces in 11). I live alone and have done for years, and this experience is showing me the emotional gap in my life. It's a profound shift in view, and I now notice it's been coming out in my poems over the last few months, and I just haven't been reading them properly.
So amidst a really dreadful physical pain which has left me crying buckets, I'm sensing Saturn's gold to go with the lead, which is the awareness of not only my need for nurturing, but also the fact that I deserve it. I've given myself a hard time for years without number, and I sense that changing for ever. I went to a group reiki session this evening and the theme was forgiving ourselves, which I knew at once was going to hit hard. And it did. Saturn is just moving away from natal Pluto, still within orb, so I knew it was going to be something deep.
Looking back to a similar episode in January 2001, the last time I can remember crying with nerve pain, I wondered what transits were operating to Mercury, given that it rules the nerves, and is in the 1st house (corresponding to Aries and the face). I had a chronic ear infection on the same side, and Pluto was exactly opposite natal Mercury (and square Chiron/Jupiter in Pisces - and I got the infection from a swimming pool (Pisces) abroad (Pluto in Sag!). I had a sense then I was almost wearing the pain on my head. It took that illness to make me put myself first and I had to be nurtured because I couldn't manage anything myself.
So again, something triggering that T square involving Mercury in Gemini/Jupiter & Chiron in Pisces/Pluto in Virgo set off severe nerve pain (Gemini) which leads to deep emotional healing (Chiron Pisces).
If anyone has Louise L Hay's "Heal your Body" she refers to neuralgia as manifesting when we need to forgive ourselves. And I realise I do, for cutting myself off from being loved and nurtured. Tough stuff for 2 am (UK time!) but I think it illustrates really well what Saturn can make us face up to with key transits like this.
This is neat - it's the trigeminal nerve, so even the source of the problem indicates Gemini! Trigeminal because it has 3 branches. A bit like a T square, where the apex point of the square (in this case Mercury) takes all the pressure.
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