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Post by pam on Nov 24, 2008 4:14:17 GMT
Hi Kim,
I am hoping that you can share some information about quindeciles with us. I ran across the term last night while I was surfing the net, and it seems that the 165 degree aspect denotes an area in which we are obsessive. I looked at my chart and discovered that I have a quindecile, or make that two, to my ascendant. The first is my Mars at 13 Gemini conjunct my name asteroid and the second is my Eros at 10 Taurus conjunct Ceres. Then those two are semi-sextile to each other. This sheds a lot of light on why I am super obsessive about relationships. Now mind you, I am not in relationships often and once in, I don't do well at staying (you know that Eros in Taurus can't take but so much drama, or even a hint of drama) but relationships have been the major focus of my life for as long as I can remember. I once embarrassed myself immensely by reading over old journals. All of them were only about relationships, potential relationships, or what was wrong with the current relationships. And not all of these have been romantic relationships (although the majority have). There are also entries about relationships with friends, parents, members of my spiritual community. But nothing about the state of the world, or anything remotely related to anything other than relating and losing weight. So now I know there is a marker that indicates that I have work to do in this area. It makes it a little easier to not be so shamefaced about this. And it's not that I actually have a goal to be married, but I do not want to be alone either. And I guess that is something I really need to work out. Do you have any information on this most interesting aspect?
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Post by Aphrodite on Nov 24, 2008 23:51:18 GMT
To quote Richenda Reeves, who wrote a book on the aspect, the quindecile aspect is "a prominent indicator of obsession/compulsion in response to upset and trauma in life." I have a major quindecile configuration: Saturn/South Node (4th hs) conjunction semi-sextile Jupiter/Chiron (5th hs) conjunction - all quindecile Uranus (10th hs). This translates to the death of my father, after a long and painful illness, when I was 12 years old. I don't think I will ever get done dealing with the resulting issues in my life. But it is getting easier to recognize my particular behavioral deficits, especially with MAN relationships of all kinds. By the way, my Eros is at 14 Taurus in the 7th hs, quindecile PANDORA in the 1st hs. Aphrodite
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Post by pam on Nov 25, 2008 0:16:59 GMT
By the way, my Eros is at 14 Taurus in the 7th hs, quindecile PANDORA in the 1st hs. Aphrodite
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Post by Aphrodite on Nov 25, 2008 0:55:56 GMT
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Post by ariesmoon on Nov 25, 2008 9:46:00 GMT
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Post by pam on Nov 25, 2008 13:06:55 GMT
Actually Aphrodite, I had a response but it took me what seemed like 17,000 attempts to get that quote right, and then my godbrother came over and i had to run out and take care of an errand and I didn't get back to it. I wanted to ask you how that manifests? Are you a femme fatale? It's funny, but I am considered one in certain circles. I've never thought I was particularly dangerous, not even when I was working out two hours everyday and had a 13 inch difference between my waist and my hips. I glanced at Richenda's book on Amazon, and read the first page before putting it in my shopping cart, and I'm not certain where my wound came from. It definitely is a lack of nurturing, as I have clear memories of feeling as though I was not wanted; and of deciding within my own little self that nobody could know how much I hurt inside. I've carried those feelings as long as I can remember, and my conscious memory goes back to the birth of my younger brother, who was born when I was three months shy of four years old. My sister was born when I was 21 months old. My mother had be potty trained but when Henny was born, she said I regressed. My mother was in the hospital with Henrietta some two weeks because she developed a breast infection (should I mention that I was the only one of the four of us who was never breast fed?), and by the time she introduced Henny to my older brother and I Henny had already decided that my mother belonged to her. My sister had violent tendencies througout her early life and apparently these first manifested in the cradle. I must run because I am late for work. will complete this later.
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Post by pam on Nov 25, 2008 17:40:35 GMT
Continuing with that last post
...for some reason my mother decided early in my life that I was not a person who needed protection. My younger sister was both verbally and physically abusive, and so was my older brother. One of the problems was the fact that I was clearly my father's favorite. I believe another problem was that I was also my grandmother's favorite and my grandmother was verbally and physically abusive to my mother when she was a child. In addition, my mother has frequently said that when I was a little girl I reminded her of all of the girls she used to bully when she was a child. She was afraid for me to go to school because she thought I would be beat up all of the time and I was so passive and sweet (at that time) that I really had no defense)...
More later
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Post by pam on Nov 25, 2008 18:58:21 GMT
Continuing again... Even though my mother was worried, she had some ambivalence because she did not protect me from my siblings. By the time I started school my relationship with my brother had deteriorated. My father compared my brother to me, and my brother always came up with the short end of the stick. Ive always been intellectually gifted and my brother was probably learning disabled. Those designations were not available in 1961 and 1962 when we were small. In writing this, I'm realizing that I come from a very abusive environment where the abusive behavior was part and parcel of the family dynamics. That explains the quindecile. I could go on and on, but I've found the answer to the manifestation of that aspect on my chart.
I also must run again. I have ameeting that I am neglecting.
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Post by Aphrodite on Nov 28, 2008 19:06:03 GMT
I wanted to ask you how that manifests? Are you a femme fatale? <snip> I glanced at Richenda's book on Amazon, and read the first page before putting it in my shopping cart, and I'm not certain where my wound came from. LOL! A femme fatale? Yes, I have definitely had my moments - many of them, in fact. I have also spent many years in celibacy. Both sinner and saint, with the foundation for both behaviours stemming from the same childhood wounds. I bought the book, too. I didn't realize this aspect was so prevalent in my chart. I've barely scratched the surface on the topic and cannot comment further just yet. You have definitely given me much to think about. Thank you! Aphrodite
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Post by pam on Dec 2, 2008 4:10:53 GMT
Actually, I haven't bought the book yet. I just put it in my shopping cart. I plan to buy it Friday. I am looking forward to reading the book. I spent some time in Nashville this past weekend with my best friend for the past 33 years. We discussed eros, of course, and my quindecile. she knows nothing about astrology, but she is a psychologist. the aspects of my life that I shared here on this forum are not news to her, but she very wisely avoided pointing out and labeling exactly what had transpired in my younger years. It was a wonderful visit, in more ways than one.
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