Peregrine (unaspected) Planets

[pam]

Good Morning Everyone!

I have a question about unaspected, or Peregrine, planets. My new sweetie has an unaspected 8 degree Virgo sun in the sixth house. His sun makes no close major aspects to any other planet in his chart although it does conjunct his descendant with a seven degree orb. He has Venus in Cancer, but the orb is 14 degrees and Mars in Libra but the orb to make it a sextile (although out of sign) is ten degrees and that is a tad far for a sextile. Ditto the Uranus at 0 degrees Cancer. He is a workaholic. According to what he tells me, he has always been a workaholic. His great grandmother told him that he got his first job at seven years old. He's charming in public and is absolutely mesmerizing and dripping with sex appeal lecturing or when in the spotlight (Leo Moon, Pluto in Leo conjunct Eros). I had the pleasure of watching him give a short speech the other day at a community gathering and even though e was talking about composting soil, all the ladies in the audience were twittering and giggling, me included. Privately, he doesn't seem to be in touch with those aspects. When he was sick he let me mother him, and nurse him; but that has been a one time thing. And even though the vast majority of his planets are located between the fifth and eighth houses, he doesn't seem to be really interested in doing what it takes to keep people near. Does the unaspected sun keep the individual from really connecting to the other aspects of themselves, so that they have difficulty relating to their needs?

When I first saw his chart I couldn't even get a bead on it because I couldn't get past that lonely sun, all by itself in the sixth house. I was also having difficulty reconciling the Libra Mars (which I associated with a certain amount of refinement and propriety) with the extremely direct and earthy way he was expressing his attraction to me. I wasn't offended because as an Aries I appreciate directness, but I was astounded because I know and like Virgoes (Virgo midheaven conjunct Jupiter), and I have never known one to be as forthright as he can be. Another reason I wasn't offended is that we have tons of Eros contacts by synastry and composite, plus a host of other mars contacts and venus contacts, and saturn contacts, so we tend to bring out the lustful beast in each other. I've known Virgos with Cancer Venuses and they are all very much like each other and nothing at all like him. So I'm thinking the difference is this lonely sun. Anyone care to shed some light?

[airedale]

Hi Pam,

Interesting topic – I look forward to responses. Here’s a short ‘definition’ link for others, like me, who have to look-up ‘peregrine’. Looks like your sweetie is in some interesting company!

www.noeltyl.com/techniques/070831.html

[pam]

thanks Airedale,

I also found this article

home.epix.net/~tzarathu/peregrination.html

It speaks of peregrine planets "taking over" the chart. His has seemed to get a good head start. H works all the time, and his resume is easily the most impressive resume I've ever seen. and even though he barely has time to breathe, he has taken on a few more tasks and seems to always be looking for something else to do. It's very interesting.

[primamateria]

hi Pam,

I did a bit of poking around the internet for ideas on Peregrine planets, as my own 10 Taurus Sun (11th house) makes no major aspects (just semi-sextiles and biquintiles) so is considered peregrine. One interpretation is that the unaspected planet dominates the chart - making one more of what one already is.

having said that, most of my life I've behaved in a more mutable fashion (as my Gemini Ascendant would suggest) and sometimes I find it hard to get in touch with my solar energies at all.

but hey, wow, your sweety would have some strong Virgoan tendencies with that Sun in the sixth house.

pm

[pam]

Hi Primamateria,

Yes, he is a super virgo, alright. The work, the food (he is an organic urban farmer), the cleanliness thing, the organization, the work, the work, the work. I'm trying to figure out how to access the Venus in Cancer, and get to all the cuddling that I know must be in there somewhere. His venus is square my sun/venus. My sister and I have a double sun/venus square (hers is in Capricorn) and we hurt each other's feelings on the regular, just by breathing. I hope I don't do that to him, but it is possible considering that I am an Aries and he is not. But he's a pretty tough and crotchety old man, and as much as he's been through, I think he'll survive me.

[Juliet]

I'm trying to figure out how to access the Venus in Cancer, and get to all the cuddling that I know must be in there somewhere.

I am a Virgo/ Cap Moon and AC and a workaholic and it can take hours for me to unwind and really get into the cuddling part once I really get caught up in my work. Happily my bf is a Taurus Sun/Venus/ Mercury and very fixed in what he wants, so he just keeps on trying to cuddle till I relax. It took three hours yesterday! But I need lots of downtime first, lots of time with him to really BE with him again. I am rather self contained too, not that interested in keeping people near, but perceived as very charming (moon at AC).

His venus is square my sun/venus. My sister and I have a double sun/venus square (hers is in Capricorn) and we hurt each other's feelings on the regular, just by breathing. I hope I don't do that to him, but it is possible considering that I am an Aries and he is not.

Well, hurting one another's feelings is not reserved to partners with Venus squares or to Aries Suns. My bf and I have lots of trines, but we sure can hurt one another, just by being very important to each other. ;D

[pam]

You Know?! Nobody can hurt us like the one we care about. Nobody, I mean nobody can hurt you like your children. What I meant to bring forth is that sun squared venus is one of those abrasive sorts of interaspects, and a person with a very outgoing and tactless sun signs (like Aries) could easily abrade a more sensitive, more reclusive, more contained sort of sign (like Cancer or Capricorn) very easily. I don't think it's my sisters capricorn sun that does all the feeling hurting, I think it's that scorpio ascendent. Be that as it may...

I'm still looking forward to some other information about how to bridge the energy of the unaspected planet with the other energies in the birth chart. I'm feeling that it would have to be through another person who has some astrological contacts to both the peregrine's sun and to his/her other planets, however, from what I've read peregrine suns don't necessarily have the best interpersonal skills.

[Juliet]

"Nobody, I mean nobody can hurt you like your children."

Nobody can hurt me like my partners, my three kids are a different story. I've never ever felt much tension in my mother role, (Can on the DC? Ceres there too) it's the one and only thing that has brought me nothing but joy and ease. I guess it's different for everyone, the sore points.

Their dad was an Aries and I hurt him a lot, and I mean a lot, by needing my aloofness, which my Taurus bf can deal with easily. In short, I hurt him a lot be just being who I am, because it touched some sore point in him.
Also: be careful not to attribute too much to signs. I am a Virgo Sun, Cap moon and AC, have all personal planets except for the Moon in the 8th house, a position not particularly famous for its outgoing-ness, and I am an extravert!

[pam]

Well, anytime the average Aries is not the center of the world, he/she is going to have an issue. I said "the average Aries". You know, we come first, second, third, fourth, fifth ( or "should" in our minds), but then when you actually actually behave that way, we get bored. Conundrum.

I too, have a prominent Ceres although it is not on my descendent. It is in the 6th house conjunct my Eros and quindecile my ascendant (also semi-sextile my Mars in Gemini which is conjunct my name asteroid in the 7th). I'm into to feeding and caring for people whom I love. then we can have a spirited discussion!

My relationship with my one child is very even most of the time, but every one in awhile he does something or says something, that if it came from anyone else would be the death knell of the relationship. I've heard that the only child of a s ingle parent is the most intense relationship there is, and ours has some strong Pluto contacts that probably intensify the bond. Granted, I am not the most tolerant of people and historically folks have not gotten that many opportunities to "screw up" with me. My interpretation of "When the going gets tough, the tough get going" is not really the same as most people's. In the past, I've not tolerated emotional discomfort well. so I've done a lot of walking away. Of course, you can't quit a 9 year old boy, or a 15 year old one either. Or at least, I can't, so I've learned through him that people can cut you to the quick and still love you and you still love them. I think that this is a lesson that'll be getting some reinforcement from Mr. Peregrine Sun, as we've already had a couple of episodes that would have sent me walking in earlier times. I did walk a couple of weeks ago, but it took two days and a hug from him for me to realize that I was just going to have to learn to understand him because I was very unhappy and lonely without him around (those darn Eros contacts again! )