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Post by moondance7 on Feb 21, 2007 0:32:00 GMT
I would like to know if this man is attracted to me in a romantic /sexual way as I want to avoid misinterpreting him. Unfortunately, I am signified by Mercury and he by Jupiter, but they do receive eachother by sign. Merc is retrograding and will conjunct the sun, his co-significator (according to Frawley), but Venus, significator of the 5th house is separating from Jupiter. My co-significator, the moon, is applying to a trine with Jupiter, but again, shouldn't this question be judged by Venus? Can anyone help?  |
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Post by blueorchids on Feb 21, 2007 15:05:21 GMT
Bear with me. This is such an odd chart and I am no horary scholar but I always do this thing when I look at my charts. I look at the balance of power in relationship questions. How are you doing and portrayed? How is he? (my sort of newly evolving post modern feminist approach to things and I apologize for my out the gate bias) Here the balance of power seems very skewed in his favor. As Moon you are in action mode Aries and at the top of the chart----indeed in HIS 5th house of romance and dalliances, in Venus' terms but the SUN's face. You are actually trining him very nicely as he is Sag JUPITER. Being MOON in his fifth house may well indicate some interest in his part but what bothers me is the position of MERCURY, your main significator. You are not in any position really to do, say or act upon it one way or the other. Mercury is in free fall as PISCES and then layer on RETROGRADE. Also I note that rather than moving back into the likes of a Venus or Jupiter, you are rapidly bumping into the SUN, possibly his secondary significator. So you are in fall, retrograde and COMBUST. Whoah girl who is this guy? Are you allowing yourself to retread formerly walked territory? It sort of has that tortuous been there done that feeling to it. As you mention the main siginifcators don't really have strong connecting aspects. Your not in each others houses...I dont get heavy panting sighing from either one of you as much as you moving to getting stronger thorugh your Aries Moon but backsliding with your Neptunian Pisces Mercury and him being a mildly disinterested and leading his life (which by the way with the Uranus/nn/ sun in his 4th stuff is brewing and active at home) As Jupiter he is in solid dignity  and staying there for quite some time. (Moon and Mercury are always on the move) but Mercury will stay wobbly retrograde for days.  The Aries Moon's last aspect IS a trine to Sag PLUTO which is housed in your 7th/his first. My sense is that YES he has a mild attraction but the chart seems weirdly not about attraction, perhaps more about riding out your contemplation of the attraction and perhaps escaping (PLUTO) the whole thing before getting singed. Don't foreget that the retrograde planet when it turns direct has a blatant tendency to show a swift change of heart...  Hopefully AQUAEs, Amoroso or Kim will come in and help you, maybe give a different and better perspective. Big PS-- Notice how VENUS is at 29. She is not only poised to change signs, the dreamy neptunian Pisces to the assertive Aries; she is also poised to leave his 5th house... perhaps another sigh of moving on. |
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Post by moondance7 on Feb 21, 2007 20:03:09 GMT
What an interesting reading! My own readings are so cut and dried next to yours. Well, he does hold all the cards, but he is definitely not a "retread", this recent flirting being a new thing for our professional relationship. And yes, I would probably not act on this even if he made his intentions clear, and wanted to diddle, because it would be too embarassing with a man 16 yrs my junior, but what a cutie! His venus is exactly opposed mine,and in my 5th house with his Pluto making a great trine. His Mars is conjunct my Pluto, and my Eros his descendant. My Circe is exactly conjunct his Pluto, too. Mercy me (fans self). I have heard that Venus in Capricorn men tend to go for older women, but this is a bit de trop. Anyone else take a shot? Thanks
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Post by blueorchids on Feb 21, 2007 20:49:10 GMT
Cool. I think that relatively late ascendant, the very late Venus and the Mercury retrograde threw me off--made me feel like alot of thought has been given the issue or things had occurred... That makes sense about work since 6th house rules work and employer/employee relations. The truth is you didn't ask about anything but is he attracted to me!  That sag jup is in the Moon''s face... |
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Post by moondance7 on Feb 26, 2007 20:12:22 GMT
Well, Blueorchids, the young whippersnapper sent me a CD in the mail on a philosohical/spiritual subject. I guess he is just being nice and helpful, but,damn, those Pluto aspects keep sending on my frequency. I wish I knew for sure. ;D
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 26, 2007 21:51:28 GMT
Hi Moondance7 & Blueorhids, First up, I think that those old 'age difference' barriers are down or dropping these day allowing much more social freedom and fewer raised eyebrows Second, can we check the declinations? They are important in horary and any parallels or contra-parallels (by 1.25 orb) especially by the Moon, rulers, Asc and Venus might add something here to the picture. And what about checking the Arabic Part of Passion: Mars + Asc. - Sun or 19 Taurus...hmmm or the Part of Love which is Venus + Asc. - Sun, or 24 Cancer, opposite Mars.... Okay, I just did the declinations and found Moon at 07 degrees 39 N is contra parallel Uranus at 7:00' S. Here is your surprise! My experience is that men, especially younger men, do not send things in the mail because they are 'nice and helpful' only. They send them because they are thinking about you....and they think about you because they are attracted. Jupiter is contra-Parallel the Asc...I think you'll have your answer in 3 --'days or weeks or months'-- as the Moon will trine his ruler in 3 degrees...probably weeks as the moon is fast in a Cardinal sign in a suceedent house. (last over Venus--perfect)--I think you'll know for sure soon enough and meanwhile, ENJOY the energy of it if it feels fun!!! I suspect that if you feel like he might be interested, and he acts like he is interested then he is interested! Your ruler Rx suggests that at the time of the question you weren’t feeling well or were in some way weakened. Maybe what Blueorchids is talking about in terms of power is reflected here. Perhaps the more interesting question is , are you attracted to him! Let us know how it evolves! Kim |
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Post by blueorchids on Feb 27, 2007 1:10:53 GMT
Thanks for coming in Kim.
Hilarious Moondance...Wow! very cool. Well 3rd house is communication Baby!! And it is ruled by the SUN You, Mercury meet oncoming SUN-communication.
Communication is in PISCES----a Cd of spiritual nature.... (hey this chart was cast on the 20th, 5 degrees of separation take or give between the communication and you 5 days?...uncanny....)
Oh... on the weakness. Sorry. I actually said that for three reasons. She is Pisces.
Pisces is in Fall as Mercury; Retrograde; and Combust the Sun. He was Jupiter in Sag. So it made me think he is stronger in this matter, at this time; an upper hand if you will....and hell, it definitely does not mean he is not attracted. He's got some kind of interest I do believe!
Kindly Let us know how it plays out. I am keenly interested in what his home life/domestic situation is, and on further thought I think that later ascendant, late Venus and Mercury retrograde may actually reflect that you have known him for several years....not like this with the attraction et al but perhaps as colleagues.
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Post by moondance7 on Feb 27, 2007 19:57:32 GMT
You ladies are very wicked for encouraging me!!! I'll let you know if anything transpires. I'll just have to force myself to watch the silly cd. Thanks. PS Kim, I'm more attracted to him emotionally and intellectually,sexy jokes aside. Maybe I'll have to refer the little pup to one of those "Granny Sex" porn sites. But... his mercury is exactly conjunct my vertex in my 5th house....Jupiters are trined eachother and my Cancer stellium.... his Uranus is exactly conjunct my ascendant...... oh golly, is it warm in here?
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Post by moondance7 on Mar 13, 2007 1:53:44 GMT
Went to the Whippersnapper for treatment today. Did I mention last time he was shocked at my age, even though he's been treating me for ten years? Well, today in the waiting room he had posted "In Praise of Women Over Forty" by Andy Rooney. I had to laugh. Stay tuned.
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Post by moondance7 on Apr 12, 2007 0:58:07 GMT
Just wanted to write a progress report. Three weeks ago, I had my whole shoulder replaced. As you can imagine this is absolutely major surgery. Anyway, I have been exchanging emails 2 or 3 times a week with my young friend, and we are getting down to some fairly serious discussions. We've agreed to pursue a cyber friendship while I convalesce. We've had one "fight", but he is back to calling me things like "Jellybean". I guess that's OK, unless it ever turns to "Jelly Belly". LOL
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Post by blueorchids on Apr 18, 2007 18:12:12 GMT
MoonDance!
Sorry to hear about your shoulder but glad that you are at least corresponding with your young Philly...LOL... How did it play out with that 4th house of his? Did you ever find out what all that traffic static represented?
Jellybean is cute...I like that......
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Post by Kim Falconer on Apr 21, 2007 10:10:49 GMT
I like Jellybean too....
I'm wishing you a speedy recovery--I'm glad you have his cyber-support. What is that saying??? Open mind, open heart, open up and fall apart! (the falling apart being akin to falling in love...)
Blessings and healings,
Kim
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and staying there for quite some time. (Moon and Mercury are always on the move) but Mercury will stay wobbly retrograde for days. 
The Aries Moon's last aspect IS a trine to Sag PLUTO which is housed in your 7th/his first. My sense is that YES he has a mild attraction but the chart seems weirdly not about attraction, perhaps more about riding out your contemplation of the attraction and perhaps escaping (PLUTO) the whole thing before getting singed. Don't foreget that the retrograde planet when it turns direct has a blatant tendency to show a swift change of heart... 
Hopefully AQUAEs, Amoroso or Kim will come in and help you, maybe give a different and better perspective.
That sag jup is in the Moon''s face...
