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Post by svenskasfinx on Oct 22, 2006 10:42:10 GMT
Ok this is a somewhat serious matter, however when I asked the question, it was right after only being sick for a few days then going to the hosptial and getting a treatment for an infection ASSUMED to be pneumonia. The same night the right lung got "worse" and so I went back a few days later and got an x-ray, which was considered a bit "abnormal", so much so that they didn't want me to leave the hospital and thus I was regestrared with the emergency health care section, there I was prepared for a second x-ray. By that time it was late at night and so to help my family cope as well as help the staff cope I made arangements to go back the next day when the detailed x-ray machine would be available. That was Tuesday the 17th of October. Later on I got word that the other expert thought it was a waste of time to x-ray again until the fluid (which is supposed to be "normal" with pneumonia) was gone. I have a future apointment for the 27th of November 2006. When I asked this question I thought that it was a rather "straight forward" type of thing. Points to mark: ASC Leo (Sun in Libra in the 3rd house) representing me. 6th House ruler is Saturn (the 6th has Neptune, Chiron and Ceres in it) Saturn, the 6th house ruler is in the 1st House- (remarkable!) Moon, ruler of the 12th house in the 12th, in Leo, eventually to pass and move into the 1st; but what does that mean in relationship to ASC, the planets in aspect and Saturn the 6th house ruler? The SUN, the ASC ruler is about to go into sextile with Saturn, the 6th house ruler: I thought that this was a "good sign" of vitality and because the Sun can not be "combust" it self, it was even better that it should have no problems with that Mars conjunction conjunct Acturus. The Sun will eventually Conjunct Spica BEFORE the Moon leaves Leo, I suspect. This seems to be a great indication of "wellness" and "vitality", but even still, with the house placements and with a fixed sign on the ASC (and Fixed sign Moon) the timing is rather "slow"... Also with the Moon eventually making an opposition to Neptune before moving into the 1st House, I also tend to wonder if there isn't a mistake to be made concerning my care and treatment. Moon sextiles Venus, about to conjunct the Sun as well... In the end the Moon makes a conjunction to Saturn and then sextile to the Sun and Mars. The Sun about to Conjunct Mars, although weak and strongly placed on Acturus seems rather concerning.. I have to wonder about what people typically read a Mars conjunction AS when it comes to issues of health. Mars can also mean "fever" and "infection". Could Mars in this condition give way to a "relapse" or could Neptune in the 6th sugest something to that effect? (a weakness in the health). With the considerations for Mars, usually the same is true for Saturn; Because the Moon will conjunct Saturn, I have to wonder exactly what that could mean in the wholeness of the picture. Saturn is traditionally a "bad" thing, an oppressive thing, especially if it happens to be ruling the "topic" of the chart, in this case a 6th house issue of health. Conjunction means the combining of the two forces together, so it would have to mean 12th house issues (and me as the co-ruler) in the first house (the body of the questioner) dealing with the 6th house issues, (environmental/health concerns) all placed in the first house. Ideas I have are: because Saturn is "weak" in Leo, it is the Moon who will win, Same with the Sun.. the two Lights meaning Vitality and Healing. AS I told the doctor who wanted to keep me, its often not the illness that is worrying but rather the waiting and then the mystery surrounding it. Mysteriousness would be the ground of the 8th house. Uranus in the 8th.. but it is not the end of the 6th house matter. This would be Piscies, the 9th house ruler, thus both ruled by Neptune in the 6th, and Jupiter in the 4th. In spite of this "positive" feeling, my doubts came when I used the Arabic part of Death, it is at 24.21 Piscies. It is Conjunt the NN also found in the 8th. The Arabic part of sickness is 22.06 Libra; within minutes of being conjunct the Sun. The issue at hand is I asked a question about pneumonia, and other issues came up to drag this out longer. I actually feel BETTER but my chest feels like I'm rather bruised inside. I've been getting plenty of sleep, and finally getting some support at home. I suspected when I saw that fixed signs were a part of this that things were going to be slow moving. The 4th house sugests that the end of the topic is rather "postive" with Jupiter about to be conjoined with Mercury there, Mercury naturally ruling the lungs. And with the other influences in order (9th house being 4th to the 6th ideas above) I guess I just have to wait and see. Although this may sound "morbid", Grant Lewi, a Gemini astrologer some how baffled people concerning his mysterious prediction of his own death. How he matter of factly saw that it would happen, took the actions he did and filled out a massive life insurance policy. Don't take my actions in analysis as being morbid, but rather once again a curiousity into my research that has become rather interesting, in spite of the topic. Thank goodness I'm NOT a doctor, I certainly wouldn't be known for my "warm emotional side" when it comes to things that facinate me... Thats why I like my plants img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kafkas_unfulfilling_muse/newspapers/pneumoniahorarymedusa.gifIn the chart above (link only because I don't want to fill up this page) I also added Hygeia and Medusa, these are in the 5th house. It sugests to me if I keep my spirits up, I may get better easier.. but 5th house issues with health, and their relationship to them are 12th house in matter. (12th of the 6th is the 5th house). You need not comment if you don't wish to, but the chart itself is curious, the meanings also curious and I can't help be be so interested ideas concerning Horary, both tradtional and newer ideas when I think about the relationships here to both Mars and Saturn. Be well everyone, svenskasfinx
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Post by Amoroso on Oct 22, 2006 14:38:37 GMT
Dear Sven,
This has to be quick--I just happened to check into the forum this morning on a whim, and saw your horary.
I am sorry you have been so sick and hope you feel better very soon.
Technically Neptune is in the 7th house. Planets within 5 degrees of a house cusp are finished with their business in one house and on their way into another. I suspect that any confusion over your treatment is not an issue any more.
Saturn on the ASC and on the cusp of the 6th just points out that your vitality is depressed and it will take awhile to get better. Pneumonia is an illness that can take 6 months or so to "get over." The danger would be in trying to bounce back too soon and getting a relapse. That would be worse than your current state.
I think Chiron in the 6th shows that you can take this opportunity to put permanent routines into place at home that will give you the help you need so that you don't have to get sick to get the rest you need.
Just a few thoughts, Love, Amoroso
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Post by AquarianEssence on Oct 23, 2006 9:19:57 GMT
I'd like to pop in to be your 9th house Mars contributor. If you find a Pleurisy Root blend you'll find your recovery much quicker. It is wonderful for anything involving the lungs. You'll notice improvement about the 3rd day but don't stop taking it that quick. Take it like you would an antibiotic, 7-10 days. Notice that the rulers of the part of death are in the 11th of the 9th, group forum and 8th of 9th, sharing my resources with my afflicted friend. Leo rising is very strong. Moon in Leo is also strong. You (the Sun) are surrounded by love and vitality, yin and yang. Sun is conjunct Mars, bringing action, and a sextile from Moon, perfrectly balanced energy. The sextile aspect could be looked at as representing the lungs, perfect. You'll be fine. Moon opposes and squares the ruler of death soon, then finally sextiles Pluto and Mars. It won't be really quick but it will be sure. Check where Panacea is and see if it fits Plurisy Root. Do some more research on using herbs to confirm for yourself this would be a good thing for you. 3rd house is also education. The earth has given us everything we need.
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Post by AquarianEssence on Oct 23, 2006 9:39:06 GMT
Woops, sorry, that's a trine to Pluto. That can give you the desire to find the answers for your own transformation into good health. That can be you self undoing also, undoing an affliction. :-)
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Post by blueorchids on Oct 23, 2006 13:38:01 GMT
Sven I do not have much horary to add except that mars conjunct sun and spica seems to indicate vitality and action on your part..mars is also headed into the 4th house--the homefront.
Please feel better!
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Post by moondance7 on Oct 23, 2006 14:00:29 GMT
Svenska, I have nothing to add astrologically, but my thoughts are with you, and I'm sending you energy. Rest, eat and take the pleurisy root.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 23, 2006 21:25:23 GMT
Svenskasfinx, I am off to work shortly and don’t have time to study your chart or even your detailed post thoroughly yet. I just want to consider a few ‘health related’ rules al la Ivy Goldstein Jacobson. 1. The Ascendant is your health 2. The 6th is anything that perturbs your health (dis-ease) 3. Your ruler is in the third (Gemini/Mercury = Lungs) 4. The ruler of the 6th ‘takes’ the dis-ease to the part of the body represented by the sign it is in. (Saturn in Leo can mean the illness depresses your feelings of distinction, identity, your ‘heart’ literally or metaphorically…the dis-ease contributes to depression. Also consider that Saturn rules chronic problems, skin, bones, stones, scar tissues etc. 5. If the ruler of the 6th is angular the dis-ease is diagnosed early 6. Planets in the 6th tell us what supports you—or undermines you 7. Always look at the S. Node—again, 3rd house lungs! 8. Work out the Part of Sickness: Asc + Mars – Saturn. That’s easy to do at a glance—it’ll be 2 degrees behind Mars (conjunct the Sun and Mars, makes sense again in the third house…was this acute in onset?)--okay, you've done this. Good! 9. Check for the 150 degree inconjunct—that is the natural distance from the asc to the 6th. Check what aspects are there between sun/mo/ma/sa and ruler of 6th (Sa again)? Okay, I know you have covered much of this and I will check in after work and have a closer look. Off the bat, the chart is reflecting an illness associated with the chest, lungs, upper limbs which effects your ability to ‘breathe’ and communicate. Part of sickness on Mars says it came on (to you) fast and Saturn on the Asc says it will take TIME to recuperate. Sun Sextile the ruler of the 6th says there is an OPPORTUNITY here and with Chiron in the 6th and Leo Sa, I think that might have something to do with understanding your own heart and yourself as a distinct and creative individual…if that makes any sense… Saturn also says if you don’t rest, if you ‘martyr’ yourself (unconsciously) to your family or fall into a manipulation there, it could take you a long time to get well. Howard Sasportas said that “illness in the body is a sign that something isn’t right…and it’s our job to find out what that is and heal it…he wasn’t talking about the actual manifestation of symptoms, but of a deeper cause. Okay, must fly to work now. I’ll be back to read your experiences more thoroughly. Please rest and allow for the quick Mars recovery!!! I'm thinking of you! Warmly, Kim
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Post by svenskasfinx on Oct 24, 2006 10:39:50 GMT
Dear everyone, thanks for your kind wishes, encouragement and warm thoughts and energy towards a speedy recovery. I am recovering; we know this, the infection, which came about suddenly (over only 2-3 days) afflicted me suddenly, and I really didn't know what hit me. Its the other things after now when the infection is gone that is the trouble.. the draining of the lungs, ect. Then there is the suspicious other reason for why me, a fairly healthy, energetic, "youngish" non-smoker, exercise oriented person could come down with such an infection so rapidly.. this is why the more exploritory "follow up" detailed x-ray.. Although I knew I had a little problem with my breathing before, I was using exercise to expand my lungs... yoga, singing, and swimming.. perhaps things would have been worse if I had not gone intensive with those exercises. I would have to assume Leo relates to the activity of the heart and chest.. Because of a question my little son put to me some weeks before, I went and studied a little bit on the heart and the actions of the blood. (he wanted to know exactly what "the blood" does; how it functions) I didn't know and so I went to study it: I didn't know that the heart must work much harder if the lungs to not fuction well, thus if "older people" or people with heart illness or even infants who have less strong heart function get problems with their lungs, its could be extremely problematic, or even fatal. My heart compinsated for any problems with the flow of air I've had, and although my lung capacity was "alarming" to the doctors, my colour and heart rate was completely "normal"; they mentioned something about high hemoglobin count as well... So the vitality of "Mars" and the "Sun" and the Leo ASC is really "in there". I'm distressed I've been "forced" to "get better" in spite of only one week ago I had fluid in my lungs on the x-ray... I don't want to be a martyr, and I do happen so sacrifice alot for trying to run things smoothly. My son didn't help matters. I was tired before having to walk him to school (yes, he couldn't just ride in his grandfather's car.. and had a red faced hissy fit!!! a tantrum of amazing proportions.. and then his Aries Grandfather (My son's Venus is conjunct HIS natal Sun) softly said, "its better that you walk.. and get away from him being out of sorts"...(he was tragically upset, however I was not really willing to give in to tempertantrums today.. but what can I do?.. I was bullied, usually by people who really support me!) Why do they just seem to "pick" that perfect moment? I think Saturn states something here I didn't realize: Sometimes you're on your own.. If I could find "pluracy root" I'd take it.. but I have had "rosen rot" and Russian Ginsing, as well as Asian Ginsing and Scizandra. I've been improving my skin by taking a supliment of Silica made with extract of the herb called "horse tail"...It has really improved over the last 2 months.. so I continue with that. But now that I've had massive antibiotics I have to reintroduce good nurishing bacteria into my intestines otherwise I could weaken my immune system again.. So its Green tea, probiotic soya yoguart, fermented vegetables (mjölksyrade grönsaker)..and a probiotic supliment made with a special lactobacteria.. lots of fruit, veg and especially "leafy greens". In spite of trying not to be "active" and being pretty much abandoned to this (no time to be sick attitudes are abounding!!) I'm trying hard to make certain that nutrition will help me out. (oh and lots of carrots, carrot juice and such for beta carrotine!) If you know the latin name of this root, I will try to go and find it.. or send me a link? That would help much! And Kim, thanks for this detailed look into this (inspite of what you say, this is a helpful detailed list and helps with my learning experience!) You mentioned this: 8. Work out the Part of Sickness: Asc + Mars – Saturn. That’s easy to do at a glance—it’ll be 2 degrees behind Mars (conjunct the Sun and Mars, makes sense again in the third house…was this acute in onset?)--okay, you've done this. Good! The onset was fast and hard, only days after my son had a bacteria infection in one eye, then when it spread to both eyes, instead of spreading to my eyes it went directly to my lungs (it didn't spread to my eyes until after I started the antibiotic, and then for about two days I was almost blind from the gunk!!) In fact I recall when I first got the sniffles, it only took 2 days till I was at the hospital, high fever, difficulty breathing, that kind of thing.. It was fast and furious. The other symtoms are slow and lingering.. I get "winded" easily, but that IS to be expected... I'm worried more about what confusion about the x-rays.. (also the "slow and lingering") Although this infection, certainly gone by now..the marks are lasting.. the doctor's expectations uncertain and slow also.. and lastly the whole reason for the next step and why its taking so long is because progress of such an illness, and the draining is supposed to take time (Saturn) definately time related. The movement of the Moon to conjunct Saturn? What of this? The movement of the 12th house ruler (the co-ruler) (the Moon) into the first house (the Body) certainly 12th house issues physically affect the "body" (ASC) when the 12th house ruler moves in to conjunct the 6th house ruler on the ASC: IS this "healing", or is this someone else's perspective of "health" their "health" ? (6th from the 7th, thus the 12th). I'm positive but guarded in my opimism. I feel warm today. (not feverish ) Thanks for everyone's best wishes. I'm touched, really touched. svenskasfinx
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Post by Amoroso on Oct 24, 2006 17:16:02 GMT
Dear Sven,
This doesn't really have to do with your horary--more your comments on the chest and the lungs and their relationship to one another.
This morning, while practicing cobra pose, my instructor was working to get me to release certain areas of the shoulders and back , etc., and I had a hard time doing so. She actually held me up across my chest and told me to give her my weight, which I only did after several minutes of "holding." I have been experiencing some upper chest tightness and mucous that I thought might be related to allergies.
When we finally got the chest and shoulders to release back, I wanted to cry. And I realized that I have some major crying to do which is something I do not do easily. Sadness, frustration--all related to control and sexuality issues. Those are also Mars and Scorpio issues. (I have t Saturn coming up on natal Pluto which will trine natal Saturn in Scorpio.)
It is amazing how these things interact, is it not?
Hope this gives you some insight into your situation. One thing that mothers never talk about is how completely angry we can become meeting the needs of those little ones and the family. Contrary to popular belief, it is so contrary to our own needs almost all the time, that one denies one's basic needs not once ot twice, but constantly over years and years and years. That is bound to lead to much Mars action at some point!
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by svenskasfinx on Oct 27, 2006 9:28:06 GMT
Dear Sven, This doesn't really have to do with your horary--more your comments on the chest and the lungs and their relationship to one another. This morning, while practicing cobra pose, my instructor was working to get me to release certain areas of the shoulders and back , etc., and I had a hard time doing so. She actually held me up across my chest and told me to give her my weight, which I only did after several minutes of "holding." I have been experiencing some upper chest tightness and mucous that I thought might be related to allergies. When we finally got the chest and shoulders to release back, I wanted to cry. And I realized that I have some major crying to do which is something I do not do easily. Sadness, frustration--all related to control and sexuality issues. Those are also Mars and Scorpio issues. (I have t Saturn coming up on natal Pluto which will trine natal Saturn in Scorpio.) It is amazing how these things interact, is it not? Hope this gives you some insight into your situation. One thing that mothers never talk about is how completely angry we can become meeting the needs of those little ones and the family. Contrary to popular belief, it is so contrary to our own needs almost all the time, that one denies one's basic needs not once ot twice, but constantly over years and years and years. That is bound to lead to much Mars action at some point! Blessings, Amoroso Funny thing about that Amoroso- I was 4 weeks into a power yoga training when I got sick; I assume it would have been even worse if I hadn't as I really was trying to work on expanding my lung capacity (I guess if you recall some threads earlier I was discussing the problem with Nige). I was working hard on it too, holding my breath in deep water and really working the "cardio" thing.. I thought it would protect me..maybe it did, maybe it didn't, who can say? Anger and keeping it in is an issue when it comes to I think EVERYONE who as been asked to do things far beyond what they are expected at one time or another. On one hand, you have to remember WHO you are working for and what your job is exactly. When it comes to my son, its really only a problem when other people had this set of expectations for me, but my son himself, NO not an issue. Sadly, it is not too good to be as direct with my anger as I can be. We don't want to set a bad example to a child, no matter how stubourn (a little Taurus with Leo ASC IS a bit hard to sway sometimes!!!) we should set a good example by being at least flexible ourselves. My husband bothers me most with his stubourness... it is an influence that has alot of hold over our son, just by his example I believe I turn into the scatter brains who is supposedly there to bend over backwards, and that is the lesson I do not want my son to start learning. I'm not there for that! I do what I do not because I HAVE to, and I told my husband that a long time ago, I do it because I love them and because I want to, but when they start treading on my rights, and demanding as they have started to, especially when I'm sick or could be working, or need time for myself.. what is that going to do for our family? Nothing good I suspect. Yeah, the shoulders have always born great weight, other people's problems, my own and even helped out my family when I was younger.. my shoulders are usually quite well, broad and strong.. but why do I need to bare a cross when its time for me to run? Something is going to change, I knew that for a while, but I didn't expect to be delayed by illness. Is there a message here? I got a letter from a friend again, mentioned something I didn't really think about, (he got the information about everything from my mother): I guess its hard to believe when you look back, (at all of our ages, respectively) that there is 20- 30 years of experience and training and learning always behind even the youngest of us all... I know just because my son is something I strived to have the experience for doesn't mean that its wrong to need time for myself and not be treated like a slave. My husband really got most of all angry with me when I tried to bring of the idea of me "not being a slave"....of couse he would like to see himself as the superiour man who does give women the same opportunities as men, naturally though I have yet to see him behave as the "liberated man" the type who I often see pushing the pram and changing the nappies either.. (although he had to do that for the first days). And yet, I will willingly be a part of the momma track... as long as I'm rewarded, and not forced labour. We are right now on the "wrong foot"; I realized that when we were watching a documentrary the other night about buglar alarm systems (I'm really not a fan of this idea of contiued building of walls around society until only the little person is the one who is picked out as the victim).. In Sweden the "posh" buy alarms for the feeling of "safety", and the scare tactics I have seen in America for the sales of such things are not a part of the marketing, at least not on an open expression, but more like enhanced statistics about the rise of burglaries, in spite of the fact that on a whole scale it has dropped dramaticly in the past 20 years. Police and Psychologists were on the program and I had to whole heartedly agree with the psychologist that people who rely upon one thing for this sense of "security" are only going to be disapointed because they have to constantly "upgrade" their feelings of fear with other things until they become more and more suspecious of people... ect.. I looked at my husband, I knew what he was thinking: "hippy talk".. I asked him if he thought it was "hippy talk" and he burst out.. that was the kind of hippy talk people shouldn't take seriously.. that it was silly like people should be out on the streets willing to hug each other in an "open" society... Ok... I realized there, I had to ask myself, "who IS that person? , where did the person I fell in love with go??" It's a slight reality check; certainly I feel slightly disillusioned when he's so "dogmatic". Ok its a mild offence, but everything is now "hippy talk"; and that in itself is quite annoying, and forget about talk of the soul nowdays... doesn't exist anymore, supposedly. Quite worrying. Probably defensiveness for a world which he can clearly define with the ideas of rules, logic and functionalism. When you do that, I'm probably the first to go, since I am neither logical nor am I completely functional, but I'm still probably a "status symbol".. Humour is the first to go.. Sometimes you need to cry, its clear, but sometimes we need to laugh, full, hard, falling down and choking laughing!! Laugh till you cry too!! Great for the chest and heart too! Got to go rest, I've been telling myself!!! take care and best wishes, Svenskasfinx
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Post by gemstar on Oct 27, 2006 10:54:25 GMT
Dear svenskasfinx... Wow....you have quite a lot to resolve with your spouse. Here at the forum, it has been interesting to watch your posts continue to build-up with frustration regarding your marriage. No doubt your health is feeling the effects of these issues with him. Hopefully you will go deep inside yourself and discover the parts of you which need to change in some way to cause change on the outside of your life. Yoga will help yet the underlying pressure continues to build if the challenges are not addressed. You have been aware of them for some time...discussing change of whatever kind is necessary and it needn't matter if your health is good or not....it must be dealt with either way. Perhaps you might sit down and write a list for yourself of the things which bother you...being careful to not project your actions/attitudes upon the other person (sometimes I am frustrated with something and I myself act the same way!!).....and then write up a list of the postive direction you would like to have these things resolved. Think about this list and add to it when the 'bigger' issues come up during the next week. Maybe there are a top 5 issues you want to concentrate on....and then take the first one ONLY and begin to effect a change--both with yourself and with your spouse. Too many things at one time are confusing to improve so try just one area at a time. Really get inside yourself to determine what you are contributing to the issue (if anything) and how you can better approach improvement in your Life. How might you approach him to effect this improvement? What results are you desiring? And stick to that one issue for a week or so....then add on a 2nd issue to resolve. Use the same process....self-review...then HOW you can best approach him to effect an improvement. Does that make sense? Otherwise, you will continue to spin your wheels as you do and nothing is ever resolved and continued anger builds within you. Good Luck...and I am sure you are 'open' to hearing what he might have to say. Acknowledge the part you play in the relationship dynamic....and determine HOW you might approach the issues differently.....change in attitude (like not serving everyone else all the time.-sans attitude....change your expectations and use praise to let him know you are happy with his efforts), try this new approach with patience and determined kindness, really feeling your personal power to effect positive results overall!! Try it....at this point, you must do something different or you will surely create more health challenges. You are a strong woman who does deserve time for yourself....however, it is up to you to create the type of respect in your household to make this happen!! You can do it!! Good Luck! Hugs- GemStar
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Post by AquarianEssence on Oct 27, 2006 18:28:33 GMT
I'm sorry for the delay with the botanical name. The angel of death passed over Monday taking my mom. I'm supporting your healing inside and out. Pleurisy Root is Asclepias tuberosa also known as butterfly weed here. Milkweed is a close relative. Butterfly's love both of them. There are certain weeds I protect and they are amoung them. It is a diaphoretic, expectorant, antispasmodic, carminative, diuretic, nervine and tonic affecting the lungs, kidneys (read relationship) and nerves. There is a picture here: www.digital-memphis.com/Plants/index.html It's the last one on the 2nd row. Here's the wiki article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AsclepiasI'm sure you recognize the name from mythology and the asteroids. Notice how close this name is to Aesculapia, the feminine asteroid version of the healer.Aesculapius. Right now the asteroid is at 25 Aquarius, opposing my Pluto (angel of death) along with transiting Saturn and at the solstice point of my natal Saturn. ps, your family doesn't need a martyr. Love and Light, Connie
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 29, 2006 21:34:05 GMT
Hello Connie, I am so sorry to hear your mother is gone. You must be in deep mourning. I'm sending you light and love and reverence. Sven, there are so many supportive and inspiring comments here...from Amoroso, Gemstar, Moondance and Aquarianessense...I think the key is to consider the illness a 'message' that something in your life is 'not right and needs adjusting'. If you focus on how you want your life to be, really feeling the change, things will start to move quite quickly. That Sun trine Neptune and sextile Saturn, and the timely Moon opposite Neptune conjunct Saturn says something about bringing what you imagine (Neptune) into reality (Saturn)…so imagine your life the way you want it to be—not the way it is or the way it might get worse. Isabel Hickey, my first teacher, said, "Energy follows thought. What you dwell on in your mind today you will live in tomorrow." Simple as that. No exceptions. I hope you are feeling stronger and recuperating! Let us know! Warmly, Kim
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Post by AquarianEssence on Oct 29, 2006 23:41:36 GMT
Thank you, Kim. Yes I am. There are similar very heavy transits now as when my blood mom passed. I'm preparing myself for another major shift. The cleansing has already begun.
Sven, I'm thinking of you and sending you healing light. I'm feeling a clear connection to your situation for several reasons. Just know you are supported by the universe.
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Post by svenskasfinx on Oct 31, 2006 17:06:38 GMT
I'm sorry for the delay with the botanical name. The angel of death passed over Monday taking my mom. I'm supporting your healing inside and out. Pleurisy Root is Asclepias tuberosa also known as butterfly weed here. Milkweed is a close relative. Butterfly's love both of them. There are certain weeds I protect and they are amoung them. It is a diaphoretic, expectorant, antispasmodic, carminative, diuretic, nervine and tonic affecting the lungs, kidneys (read relationship) and nerves. There is a picture here: www.digital-memphis.com/Plants/index.html It's the last one on the 2nd row. Here's the wiki article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AsclepiasI'm sure you recognize the name from mythology and the asteroids. Notice how close this name is to Aesculapia, the feminine asteroid version of the healer.Aesculapius. Right now the asteroid is at 25 Aquarius, opposing my Pluto (angel of death) along with transiting Saturn and at the solstice point of my natal Saturn. ps, your family doesn't need a martyr. Love and Light, Connie Sorry everyone that I've come back here rather late: I have been RESTING, and really, when I can, I get as much sleep as I need. I came down with a cold (as the doctor read the blood analysis and said "you are probably coming down with a cold" so the next week here I am... in snot Connie: the Asteroid Aesculapius is conjunct my Natal Moon in Virgo, sadly I know butterfly bush grows here and is mentioned in the "poisonous plants" section, rather than any health supliments. I guess I have to keep up with the C- vitamin and other supliments.. Good moods, good thoughts and no nightmares are keeping me going. I am sorry to hear about your mother, but I've really never considered "Pluto" to be the Angel of Death, but rather a connection from the Dead to the Living. No the God Pluto in mythology never took a life (but he gave the souls a place to stay)... but he did kidnap Persephone. When I think of "Gods" in the relationship to "death" I realize that maybe ALL of them can have a certain relationship to it, but for the most part, I don't exactly know or understand why, but I see Jupiter as a first and formost judge, jourey and executioner. Even his counter parts in other cultures have lighting bolts and strike people suddenly down, Although traditionalists often blame "Saturn"- you know, father time, gets us all in the end, yet I see Saturn as the god of "long living" as well. I don't suppose I can say anything that will remove the suffering we all must go though, as eventually, wether we want to know or not, we all die. Its just the fact of living. I'm not thinking about or imagining "dying", however its a reality which begins to creep into my thoughts. The husband issue is getting more and more resolved, as soon as I have my "rights" validated, and get my voice back, work will make me an equal, (I keep telling myself). We talked about things, things he didn't like, for example my Live Journal, he was bored at work and seemed to have found something in it.. he didn't like, didn't like how he was portrayed. But as I tried to tell him earlier, its not all about HIM. Even Pete told me in London, it was truely not ABOUT HIM so he shouldn't censur me. Things changed once I deleted it. His attitude towards me changed a bit. He told me that I didn't have to delete it, just change the "names".. (I guess when I wrote some of the last works it was clear that I DIDN'T change the names)- I realize he's not confortable with my idea of an "open society"; I'm not confortable with "paranioa" and so maybe I try to remove as many bounderies as I can in order to feel "free".. maybe common ground will help. In the end we both have to make haste and fix what doesn't work to help our son to cope with his problems in the world and the educational system. I tried to work on Sunday.. because I felt better and because I could litterally "hear" them calling me to work, it was the slowest of all the days I had been on the telephone and only two calls but the one woman who called first told me (after I had only been on the sytem two days and only for a few hours) I was highly recommended. After only about 45 minutes of consultations I lost my voice and had to sign out. My boss called me and encouraged me, she doesn't want me to work "sick", but she told me it was her that recomended me to her customers because I was so good, and really wants me to hurry up and get better- I confess that the two days I logged on to the system It was nothing but ringing, lots of customers, and I couldn't even get a bathroom pause! So, health and job are hand in hand. In the Horoscope and in "real life". I worry if my job could Make me sick, as I have done readings for people in person at given times, and they had very different energy than myself, (I'm not saying "good" or "bad" but just different) and the day after I got really really SICK, but with those situations I really just got over it and often didn't repeat my readings for them unless they needed it. Cards are very different from Horoscopes for me. I wonder if it IS possible though; if I'm using the energy wrong, or taking in too much? Anyway I wanted to thank everyone for their kind thoughts, I am open to listen, (and I won't say "but......" ) Maybe too much positive thinking is wrong though, its almost as though I say: "I'm not sick... see I'm much better..." and then I get a cold, almost as an answer saying: "go lay down..". ...don't want to disillusion myself...still not going to yoga class until I'm finished with all these tests and such. Trying to feel better and focus on what I will do when I'm WELL; we plan a night out and enjoy ourselves, my husband thought it was a great idea... Its weird to go from a peak to a very low low, it feels as though I've wasted alot of time with duty and not enough ENJOYMENT, although I was really trying to open up things in my life. Everyone promise themselves to make plans to enjoy themselves fully and without inhibition the next time you do, and remind me to do the same when I'm all bogged down with duty and dust, work and talk, and come back again to LOVE, Enjoyment, beauty, pleasure, passion and naturally FUN, and a bit more laughing. I want to go out to a fine restaruant and eat my favourite food, spicey Thai cocoanut curry tofu with chillies and lime, corriander and ginger root!!! And maybe even go dancing somewhere and have a few interesting cocktails, or go to an absinthe cafe..(I'm not much of a drinker, but I like absinthe!) And next time we won't let the whole spring and summer go by without doing something fun with each other or our son. Be well ! I'm still here! Svenskasfinx
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