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Post by Kim Falconer on Sept 4, 2006 21:41:37 GMT
This is the chart of a question Yelena234 asked on another thread. I took it for the time and place the question was posted and drew it up in Regiomontanus, to try Juliet's way (and my father actually always insisted that Horary be done in this house system. The question is "When will I start to earn more money?" Yelena, you have asked another question on the horary thread, I see. Please post the chart for the time and place that you asked the query. If you need help, let us know on that thread. I'll be back to this tread to explore your question later. Warm wishes, Kim
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Post by yelena234 on Sept 5, 2006 7:04:40 GMT
Dear Kim,
Thank you for this chart. I thought that is very easy, but obviously i have to learn much about Horary Astrology.
Now, I have loaded my Birth Chart to the Photobucket, and is there. How to go further, I don't know, and you know, how I am curious about all.
As I told you, I use Solar Return for my Prediction, but this year is very strange, and I would like to know, what means, that my 12th house is so full? I am in a position, that I really don't know, how to go further? I thaught (because I don't have money, to pay my apartment, to go away to next country, and take a sleeping pills. But me, who never was affraid of the death, at once, I am really affraid! In any case, I have to leave. My biggest problem is, that I have from my 16th year, Neuralgia Trigeminus, what normally comee from one Ganglion. In my case, comes from the neck muscles (vertebra C3), and that is why doctors here didn't believe me so long time, and it is very painfull: face swollen. eyes, right side of the head.
Here is Kranj, Slovenia (ex Yugoslavia) and is excact 9.00 a.m. and question is:
When will I earn money? or
When will I relocate to abroad?
You can choose, what do you think, that is better for me.
Tell me, what to do with Photobucket?
If you think, that Sept. 1 is better, then give me answer for that time.
Kind regards, Bozica
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Post by yelena234 on Sept 5, 2006 7:27:02 GMT
Dear Kim, Now I have my Birth Chart, and Event Chart for today, Sept, 5th, at 9:20 a.m. in Kranj, Slovenia (ex Yugoslavia). It is strange, I can't go away from 13 degrees of Libra. We have no GMT+2 (Summer time).
Question is:
Will I go to abroad for therapy?
Hope, I did it well.
Send you best regards, Bozica
p.s. Sorry, I can't attach my Charts.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Sept 5, 2006 22:47:24 GMT
Okay Yelena, just one chart at a time here. I'm concerned that too many possibilities for the time of this question will make it impossible to read. The September 1 chart was for the moment your question appeared on the forum.
We can't ask the same question twice, so let's leave this one for the $money - job question. Your health question is on another thread.
If you want to talk about your solar return chart, then you need to post it along with your natal on the Solar Return thread. With thousands of posts and hundreds of members, we need to keep things is some kind of order--so keep one question at a time in the thread that deals with that question.
I can see you are frantic for answers and support! Your fear of death now sounds like instinct--survival instinct--and is your ally--your friend. There will be solutions to your problems if you keep searching. Things always change!
In the chart above, you are ruled by the Moon (rising) and it is just past the square to the Sun (ruler of your money and financial 2nd house). This shows the stress you feel right now about your situation! Sometimes the horary states the obvious!
Part of Fortune in the 10th square the Ascendant says there are resources for you but you can't get to them at this moment, or that you have to make an adjustment or face a challenge to do so.
Do you work with languages or translation? Some kind of teaching? These are areas that could bring income--especially teaching children in a school setting. Is there an old friend or even ex-partner from the past that can help you get a job? Have you reached out to friends or services and organizations in your area?
There is the opportunity to work and earn money though you must make some kind of 'adjestment' to do it. This might be an adjustment to your thinking--applying for something that is 'outside' of what you would normally consider your line of work. It make be an adjustment to location.
The chart is saying that you have support and allies in this 'fight' for survival and you need to seek them out. Explore every possiblitliy of groups, organizations, friends and relations that can help, not so much by giving you money, but by offering advice, opening doors and presenting new opportunities.
You may well be working with those who are suffering, like in a hospital or institution. For example you may be teaching or reading to children with long-term illnesses who can not go to school.
Who can add something to this horary delineation?
Again, Yelena234, this is an educational forum where people are learning aspects of the art of astrology. Everything we put forth are ideas and opinions for you to take or discard as you see fit.
I hope this helps.
Warmly, Kim
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Post by svenskasfinx on Sept 6, 2006 11:40:58 GMT
I thought I could add something here, just some insight- I noticed that although Saturn is in the Second house (in Leo), and it is past the minute of the Part of Fortune in Aries- there is an option seeing that the movement of the moon will be in a Trine in a matter of under 9 degrees, this tells me what I thought that the parting trine to the Part of fortune was saying about resources-- that the resources were there but hard to come to, but I feel eventually it will become a more solid happening, and with The Sun being the ruler of the 2nd house conjunct Mercury the ruler of the 4th house in the 3rd, it makes me think that some of your resources may be communication about immovable resources. (just a thought) But with Venus in the 2nd house, and About to complete an exact trine with Pluto, I wouldn't be surprised if things turned around rather quickly. However the fact that Uranus is also fast moving backwards in Opposition towards the Sun/Mercury conjunction which is moving forwards (like the Venus aspect to Pluto) It seems to sugest that you may have a limited time to dealing with properties before the instablities of another country/religious belief system/ educational system disrupts any plans you may have. Because Mercury and the Sun are at 8 degrees, the movement of Uranus backwards will meet up in Less time than the difference between the 12 degrees of the planet's possition making it actions happen more "sudden" and possibly disruptive. Because Venus is the ruler of the 11th house I am inclined to say that contacts within groups of people and friends will be very helpful. Mars conjunct the South Node, ruler of intercepted Aries communicates the difficulties with being able to get directly to the resources..however the fact that both the Moon (ASC ruler) and Jupiter (6th house ruler are in the 5th house says that there must be creative solutions to the problems, and the last aspect of the Moon being squared to Mars doesn't mean "failure" but rather a need to resolve conflict (possibly with the creative life/children and work life/health) but previous aspects created by the Moon to Pluto, Venus and previously Saturn at some unknown point in time does sugest that getting to that point may not be as difficult as you feel, but that you will need your inner strengths to bring things to perfection. I see this as a positive situation, but that I don't really understand how to read this timeline with so many things in fixed and multible signs (and houses), so my guess is that it may take some time and some patiance... I hope this has helped Svenskasfinx
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Post by primamateria on Sept 7, 2006 5:01:06 GMT
Hi Ylena,
I see the chart's ruler, the moon, in the fifth as the need to be creative in this situation - and because its saggitarius you also need to summon up as much hope and optimism as you possibly can. Remember that your beliefs create your reality!!
Svenskasfinx advises that it will take some time and some patience, but I also see Saturn as the need for disipline. Really you'll find that you have no choice anyway!
take heart, this time will pass.
warmly, pm
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Post by yelena234 on Sept 8, 2006 8:26:15 GMT
To Kim.
Dear Kim, Thank you for your answer.
You are right about money, I have somewhere. Problem is, that I have to pay to get this money. It is much money, and I have to pay for staying in one Global Company for so long time. I don't have this money, as you know. I am very surprised about your answer, as you are some kind of clairvoyant, and not astrologer. I am trying to send again some questions, but to post Charts from Photobucklet to you is not going. Maybe later? But, I am in a big hurry, and don't know, what is going to be with me next week. I feel as a refugee, who has killed somebody, and must run away. And that since July 2004. Send you nice regards, yelena
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Post by Kim Falconer on Sept 9, 2006 21:41:50 GMT
Yelena234, You are welcome, but I promise, I am an astrologer, not clairvoyant! Horary blurs the boundaries a bit though, I will admit! As far as posting more charts, once you get the chart on Photobucket you will see THREE links under the small, 'thumbnail' image. If you copy the link (third one down) and paste it into your message, it should give us all a look at the chart. Let me know where you are stuck with this. And thanks, everyone, for your contributions here. Warmly, Kim
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Post by AquarianEssence on Sept 10, 2006 10:10:24 GMT
I agree. The interception inclucing POF will draw the resources in. Moon's is trine and her last aspect is conjunct pluto who is in mutual reception with Jupiter, his dispositor. That will empower you and bring benefits. I even see the squares here as empowering.
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