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Post by blueorchids on Jul 18, 2006 1:31:47 GMT
It reached 100 degrees here today and something happened to me that has not happened since I was 8 years old. I fell into a deep sleep after the lunch hour. During that time I had an extraordinarily bizarre dream in which I was happily, almost glowingly preparing to walk down the aisle for marriage. I kept thinking this was back in the 1990s when I actually did marry my husband, but it wasn't. I look just as I do now! I did not see the altar or the groom. After I awoke and wrote down the dream, I asked the horary, Will I Marry Again? Mars (Me) and Venus (Marriage) are moving out of that recent sextile. They are no longer applying. The Moon will Sextile Venus as its last aspect. However it will almost immediately trine PLUTO in the 2nd House of values/worth/possessions first and then encounter major static from the very tight twins of Sun and Mercury at 25. What of Jupiter on the Ascendant and POF 4 houses from the Moon? What does it signify? The 7th house is clearly empty (!!) but ruled by Venus in the 8th. Notice also it is ruled by GEMINI--the twins. I keep pondering why there would be so much traffic in the 9th house? That House is actually ruled by the Moon (Cancer my 2nd significator). It's the house of journeys. Also Juno and Saturn conjunct the MC? Wait a second, of course 9th house, house of some contracts (I know 7th is marriage)? 10th is house of spousal property. I will fully embarrass myself by saying the following has just occurred to me--Moon is in House 6 of health/healing. House 9 is different religions/cultures/etc (D & me)  A mere silly trifling coincidence? Even if the answer is NO, Nadda, Zilcho-- there seems to be alot more here ....  The Sabian Symbols for Venus and Mars are interesting to say the least... ;D [glow=red,2,300]VENUS[/glow]--THE FIRST MOCKING BIRD OF SPRING SINGS FROM THE TREE TOP Recapitulation of past opportunities at the threshold of a new cycle of experience. Realization of new potentialities. [glow=red,2,300] MARS--[/glow]IN THE EAST, LIGHT SLOWLY INCREASES, WIPING OUT THE STARS Transforming power of creative impulses as they bring ideas to concrete manifestation. Stirring to new opportunity. Soul-power. Any input would be wildly well received.  |
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 18, 2006 10:20:37 GMT
Gemini indicates more than one, ruling 7th, more than one partner/marriage. Moon sextile Venus, clear opportunity with Mars sextile already under your belt. 4* applying, solid manifestation, new form, foundation. 9th is what is made legal. Mars quintile Jupiter, natural ruler of 9th. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Critical degree rising. Jupiter term, Mars face. Both planets comfortable being in good term. Juno will soon be at the solstice point of Jupiter ruling 2nd, what you most value, and 5th love. The 12th house dream is antiscion to Uranus also, ruled by Jupiter. Interesting. Uranus rules the end of the matter and the new beginning that comes with that. I wonder if the POF in the house of legal matters square asc could represent the end of you as an individual. Scorpio is shared, joint issues. POF Leo is "I", Scorpio is "we".
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Post by blueorchids on Jul 18, 2006 15:17:02 GMT
Thanks AquaEssence, I am currently married and interestingly enough in my own natal chart my 7th house is empty and is actually ruled by GEMINI. My husband'snatal 7th house, however, is ruled by the Moon jammed packed with a 4 planet stellium in Leo including a 4/5conjunct Mars/Venus and to top it off Juno/Neptune/NN sit the midheaven.
In this horary isn't Taurus ruling the 7th and Gemini the 8th?.
Would my husband or a current interest be revealed?
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 18, 2006 15:25:46 GMT
Yes to both questions, but I was referring to Venus, ruler of 7th, being in Gemini, and as you said, she is forming a sextile to Moon, your ruler. Gemini indicates more that one. That doesn't necessarily mean another man. It could be the same man again, as in renewing vows. My husband talks about doing that all the time, so sweet. Also, according to Celtic tradition (we had a Beltain wedding) the vows last a year and a day and are renewed yearly, showing progress. Wether it is the same man or another, you'll have to look deeper, such as the decription of the descendant and ruler. Venus also rules the house of dreams, so you may want to look there for more information.
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Post by Amoroso on Jul 18, 2006 17:19:20 GMT
Dear BO,
There aren't enough hours in the day to really contemplate all that this forum has to offer. I can't take the time to really look at this chart, but I would like to add my knee-jerk reaction as I skimmed your and A's post.
An "inner" marriage may be occurring, the inner joining of Psyche and Eros. I have a book which I just started reading that describes the stages of having Eros appear in one's life and how to integrate the mind-blowing lessons He offers. The book is upstairs two flights, I am down in my basement music room/study and I will get it and put a note on the annotated links thread to see if anything resonates with you.
Blessings,
Amoroso
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Post by blueorchids on Jul 18, 2006 17:38:53 GMT
Thanks kindly AQ-E and Amoroso (looking forward to that info)
Aq-E your spouse sounds like a doll.
I definitely don't see me renewing my vows, not these vows anyway. LOL.
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Post by Amoroso on Jul 18, 2006 20:27:03 GMT
I've posted those book quotes uner the "Myth and Culture" thread of "Annotated Links"
Let me know what you think!
Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 18, 2006 21:54:20 GMT
I can't delineate the whole thing, Blueorchids, (assignments pressing) but I will say straight up that your co-ruler moon applying to a sextile to the ruler of the 7th, Venus, gives a YES answer...in about 4 years!
More on this soon!
Kim
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Post by blueorchids on Jul 19, 2006 0:22:32 GMT
Thanks a bunch AMoroso. I will check it out!
Kim:
Okay, you are officially freaking me out.
I just pulled up the transits for approximately four years from now and:
Saturn and Mars will tightly conjunct MC
Venus, Eros and Vesta will conjunct the 9th house Natal North Node
Juno will tightly conjuncts the 8th house natal Vertex
Furthermore in progressions:
In exactly four years, Juno will have progressed to 13 Sag directly on my Ascendant ...the sun/mercury/Venus will conjunct/approach my Vertex.
[glow=red,2,300]PS--I will check the declinations. I have just started and the one that stands out the most is JUNO at 11/42 North and MOON 11/45 North[/glow]
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Post by blueorchids on Jul 19, 2006 20:04:02 GMT
Okay I have finished looking at the declinations but first I just want to say something about the two Sabian symbols. With careful reading both o the symbols seem to suggest emphasize "new possibilities", some sense of (Spring) renewal, ending of the old.
The tight parallels are Juno 11/42 & Moon 11/45; Venus, Sun and Vertex; Neptune and Pluto; and Jupiter and 7th House cusp.
Jupiter and Mars are CONTRAparallel at 13/36 N (J) and 13/31 S
Eros is the only out of bounds placement at 29/36 N.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 19, 2006 22:14:23 GMT
Well, yes...the answers do sometimes freak us out! That's why it's important to be clear on our 'need to know'.  I would say you do have a big event, inner or outer or both, approaching around the 4 year mark! Now, can you be open to it without expectations? That’s the trickiest bit! Warmly, Kim |
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Post by blueorchids on Jul 19, 2006 23:19:10 GMT
Now, can you be open to it without expectations? That’s the trickiest bit! Kim, What me, have expectations? Hell bloody no!  ;D  |
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Post by Amoroso on Aug 3, 2006 0:13:21 GMT
I am really behind on posting responses. I am curious what you all think of the following statement in Anthony Louis' book, "Horary Astrology Plain and Simple."
He says, "...marraige is a 7th House relationship. Marc Edmond Jones gives a method to space sequential legal relationships. Not all astrologers agree with him. In the US the querent may take a second spouse only after the death or divorce from the first spouse. Jones spaces such relationships by moving from the House of the querent to its opposite. The 7th house governs the first spouse, the opposite first house rules the second spouse, the 7th house rules the third spouse, etc., back and forth across the wheel. The astrologer only resorts to this spacing when the question demands it."
Has anyone worked with this model? What is interesting is that we still get a trine from Moon (you) to Pluto (him as first house.)
In the interest of learning to accurately read such momentous moments, I wanted to open this up.
Amoroso
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Post by AquarianEssence on Aug 3, 2006 9:45:52 GMT
I didn't realize anyone else was suggesting to look at the 1st as the 2nd spouce but I have instinctively thought that many times. It's so clear that houses 5,7,9... represent each of my children and it only makes sense to do that with other releationships also. If so, this is also a yes. Moon has just separated trine to Pluto and Moon is applying trine to Mars. This would say both parties of the 1st are in agreement and so is the 7th but give it a while.
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A mere silly trifling coincidence?
I would say you do have a big event, inner or outer or both, approaching around the 4 year mark! Now, can you be open to it without expectations? That’s the trickiest bit!
