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Post by primamateria on Jul 17, 2006 4:49:46 GMT
Hello everyone... more on the same theme as everything I'm posting lately here's a horary I can't get my head around... I asked this question because A) I'm being a totally demanding princess and want everything NOW and B) I really like him and would like more chances to spend time together.. its frustrating that we have so little time alone, because I have only fortnightly weekends off from my girls, and because he (being Saturn on my Venus) limits our time and interaction. ok.. contacts to natal...tr Pluto squares both our Plutos, My Jupiter, Nodes, his Moon and Uranus. Tr Jupiter approaches opposite my Sun, and conjunct his Pars Fortunae. as for the chart, if I am the Virgo Asc - Mercury and he is the Pisces Dsc (or could be fifth cusp ruler Saturn) and I have taken the tenth cusp as 'time' - gemini so Mercury again.... well, Me and Time are signified by the same planet... and he is either Jupiter or Saturn... there's nothing going on between Mercury and Jupiter, unless by swapping with Pluto, with whom there's that inconjunt AGAiN... I think I painted myself into a corner with this question as there is no 'yes or no' answer... I can see Mercury is retrograde and combust, so not thinking clearly and pretty much in retreat. Perhaps this is as good as it gets for now, and I should reconsider whether more time is even appropriate right now?? I think I need some help here! all comments welcome joy! pm
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Post by primamateria on Jul 17, 2006 4:55:11 GMT
ps Pluto is his Asc ruler, and Mercury is my Asc ruler - is there something to this?
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 17, 2006 11:56:08 GMT
Hi Prima,
If it is relevant, notice that Moon, your other ruler, is moving in to trine Pluto. Looking at the new ruler of Pisces who is hiding in the house of adjustments needing to be made, notice Moon, at a critical degree is only 5* from trine to Neptune. 5 is expressive. Mars, Moon's dispositor, is at the secret 26th degree in the sign of affection. Perhaps its as simple as expressing your desire. Mercury always wants some sort of communication. Uranus may bring you a surprise or two. Look at the hour ruler too, perhaps some clues there.
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Post by Amoroso on Jul 17, 2006 17:38:07 GMT
Dear Prima,
Ivy G-J says that without the rulers in aspect, nothing will happen, and she goes as far as to say that every chart needs three indicators of the upcoming action. There are things like mutual reception and declinations which can offset this. What do the declinations between Mercury and Jupiter or Mercury and Neptune look like?B
I have been in the position of asking horary too many times the same kinds of questions and one has to be really "respectful" of horary as a divination tool. It is there to help us with much juicy info, but my sense is that you've asked one too many times. I don't think it wants to answer anymore for the time being!!!
However, with Saturn (time) in the 12th, the answer remains hidden.
Just a thought, Love, Amoroso
PS SO been there with C questions. You just can't do it that way.
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 18, 2006 0:52:14 GMT
Woops, make that Moon sextile Neptune, not trine. Amoroso, wouldnt Mercury and Moon be her significators whith Jupiter, Neptune and even Uranus being his? Uranus is very close to the solstice point, being contra antiscion Moon. In fact it reaches there about 4 hours later. If we look at Uranus meaning separation and contra-antiscion as opposing then couldn't it be read as being opposed to separation? The descendand degree has Jupiter ruling its term and Saturn ruling its face and he is in over his head. I can see why since Jupiter says more and Saturn says less. Anyway, he can't handle this on his own (the meaning of deep).
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Post by primamateria on Jul 18, 2006 10:34:20 GMT
thanks AqE and Amoroso,
turns out I didn't have to wait long for 'more time' with him, only hours, as he invited himself for dinner last night...
I do have to ask some questions of HIM this week!
(usually when I ask too many questions I just get a whole bunch of charts with late or early degree ascendants - did you find that Amoroso?)
blessings, pm
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Post by Amoroso on Jul 18, 2006 17:22:39 GMT
Aqua,
That's brilliant!-and a good reminder to me to not comment unless I can really take time to look at a chart, especially since I am serious about learning to read horary charts.
Good call. Prima, what do you think?
Blessings, Amoroso
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