Moving on........

[jk]

......... But not so swiftly! (i'm afraid.)

Hi Juliet,

Thanks for your reading in my last thread, but you know what, i was so intrigued by your reading that i decided to do another one. Can we get past this problem. I was wondering if he and i could move beyond this upset and remain together. I did this a few days ago and have been mulling over it over the weekend.

During that time though i've got really cross about the whole thing and I had decided that he and i shouldnt try to remain friends as he has become so unrelaible. But now my son has asked that we do, at least for a while so that he can have time to adjust to it.

I was seeing if i could do a kind practice interpreting it myself (but so new to this some guidance would be cool... if you don't mind?). It seems to be really positive wich surprises me, so am i missing something here?



I see here that libra is rising so my significator is Venus and therefore his is Mars. (Natally we are the other way round - he Libran me Aries).

Venus in 8th is in applying sextile to Mars in 10th. Good, i think?

Jupiter is in the 1st house so its interesting that the moon is seconds from moving out of Scorpio (also ruled by Mars) into Sagitarius and his in a trine to Mercury and moving away from squaring Mars. But Jupiter is also squaring Saturn.

Jupiter is also in grand trine with Sun and Uranus, does that mean anything.

How would anybody else read this chart ??

[primamateria]

Dear JK,

This chart has a very late degree moon, and it won't make any applying aspects before it changes sign - its Void of Course, so - the best possible reading of this chart is, as Kim says, 'there's nothing to worry about' or 'nothing will happen'. There are quite a few charts around on this thread that talk about the VOC moon in horary charts. Kim explains this all well in one of my horary threads 'is this chart fit to read'.

I'm so sorry to read that this relationship is not unfolding as you hope - but don't lose heart, JK - there's Pluto-Venus opposition coming up, which you may find changes things for you.

blessings, strength, pm

[jk]

Thanks PM,

I thought a VOC Moon was when there were no more aspects to the moon before it leaves a sign. What about the fact that this moon is making aspects to other planets?

I'm not clear about that (but i am often confused )

Oh, hang on, i see what you meean ... Applying!!

I think the realtionship being over is for the best but i'm just wondering if we can remain ok with each other given that my son wants to see him for a little while.

[primamateria]

JK, sending you a big virtual HUG. Try, I know its hard right now - but try, to see this chart as a sign of less to worry about. Breathe, let it go. This will pass. (now I will go and take my own advice lol).

Hang in there, pm

[jk]

Thanks for hugs...

All will be cool, i know that much at least.

[Juliet]

Hi JK,
Prima said it all...
Give yourself some time, feel what needs to be felt...

Love to you!
Juliet

[jk]

Thanks all,

So there's me trying to learn Horary and forgetting the vital rule of a void of course Moon!!

In terms of learning still, however, and for future refence. Are my thoughts on the other aspects as being positive ones on the right track.

What i mean is, if this Moon had been in a better placement, am i reading it right that the signifacators were well positioned and a 1st house Jupiter is a postive placement.

i need to get a good book on this subject, i think!

[Juliet]

Hey JK,

You could check out other posts in this section to get a feel for horary.

This online introduction gives you a feel for the ancient art of horary, and some basics:
www.skyscript.co.uk/horary_intro.html
Also: members.aol.com/tonylouis/home/hless.htm
For an overview of house and planet meanings in horary, look here:

www.skyscript.co.uk/horary.html

There's a column on the left with links to 'Traditional rulerships of the houses'.
Links to Traditional rulerships of the planets in the middle.
For relationship questions, this is interesting material:
www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html

About your chart: yes, rulers Venus and Mars are applying to a sextile. Venus is technically in 9. Reception is vital too in interpreting any question.
Two planets could apply to an easy streaming aspect, but if there is no reception at all, nothing much will come of it. Forget about good and bad on this forum!! Read the introduction...

In this table www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html one can see Venus at 16 deg Gem is:
- in Mercury's sign
- exaltation of the NN
- Triplicity I cannot determine because there is no time for your question
- In its own term
- In the face of Mars.
There is some reception of Venus by Mars.

Mars at 20 deg Leo:
- In the sign of the Sun
- Triplicity unknown
- Jupiters term
- own face
Mars is not received by Venus at all. Which could well signify you're being cross at him, of course.

Juipter in the first and in its own term might tell you are quite optimistic. Also, it is ruler of 5, your son?

You can see there's so much to it, and any interpretation means one has to make choices. What leaps at you from the chart? What does intuition tell you?

Another matter is my experience has taught me that repeated questions about the same issue, conceived in panic, often yield muddled charts, and questions from a grounded space within me usually yield clear charts.

All my best,
Juliet

[jk]

Thanks Juliet,

Yes cross at him i was , which was good as it replaced the miserable sadness i had been feeling and led me to the quieter "ok, whatever", thats taking shape.. something a bit more akin to acceptance is forming.

And your're right not only was i in unfocused state of mind when i did the chart (it was 14.00 hours exact , in Bristol uk, by the way) but the question itself was very vague something like .. will we get past this? I guess it's no surprise - there was a VOC Moon after all.

Actually i was saying to Gemstar earlier that i did a much more focused chart yesterday very clear question that could have an absolute answer. It came out much the same only this time no VOC Moon.

But i'm so fed up with seeing myself pouring my heart and soul out all over the place that i decided not to post it here. Better to let it rest and maybe come back to it much later.

Thanks for the links.. and i was trying to get away from good and bad, i was thinking i could use "positive" though ;D