Income Source

[AquarianEssence]

I'm trying to receive direction as to where to focus my energies. I had another temp agency say thanks but no thanks when I told them my current situation with my arms. So the question is, What or where is my income source? So that is a 2nd house question.



Mars rules 2nd and is in 12th. I keep being brought back to the 12th house. In cosmodyne system, my natal Jupiter in Cancer in 12th is my least friction, most powerful body. I am very good at giving charity but not at receiving it. My ex and children have made comments that my being a stay at home mom was nothing but charity but that isn't true. I served them well and made that dollar stretch like magic while building our credit rating. I take credit for that even if they won't acknowledge it.

I see no applying aspects between my significators and Mars but Mars will conjunct the asc. Scorpio type of income is someone elses money or insurance money. I guess this could mean that I'll have work comp reinstated. But I need something more long term and dependable. The only aspect within orb is Mercury conjunct. He rules the house of charity and the courts while also dispositing both the lights. Also, he is in mutual reception with Venus my other significator.

Would the dispositorship and MR transfer energy to my significators? I'm not quite sure how to interpret this other than the 12th house emphasis. I would prefer to start a non profit organization than have to be the receiver of welfare or something along that line. Yes, Neptune is very active in my life these days.

[svenskasfinx]

I'm just about to go out somewhere but I have looked at this chart and feel an illusive engergy that perhaps it not quite easy to get at the bottom of- You are Venus in Virgo in the 11th, it is square the Moon (the agent of timing and your co-ruler) however it is a parting square so we will move on to the one thing that will aspect Venus and that is Uranus, in a fast moving opposition, however the timing for that is not really easy to get at due to the fact that Uranus is moving retrograde into opposition at the same time Venus is moving forward-

Think about tensions via that; now after you get over that there is a perfect sextile made with Venus towards Jupiter in the 2nd house, this can't be interpretated as stressful, and being that there is a mutual reception between Jupiter the ruler of the 3rd, and Pluto co ruler of the 2nd, which your question has juristiction over, it is quite obvious that Jupiter and Pluto are interchangable at the degree of which Jupiter is on, thus, it makes it an aspect with Pluto due to this mutual reception- there is your access to the 2nd house. After a bit of an upset, and some positive thinking or even a few strong letters or telephone calls (3rd house) you may find yourself well on your way to accessing movable properties and or resouces you may have overlooked.

The Moon the ruler of the 10th in its aspect seems to be at odds in the end with how you find your reptuation as a mother, (Moon/Cancer-10th house all equate to either a roll as a mother (career mother is not a charitable organisation, take the credit for your tallents and never mind their downplaying the obvious skill that one needs to take care of things and make money last!) Perhaps this Uranus square is simply implying the obviousness of how shocked you feel that your own child couldn't see the value of your skills and drives in the home..

Culturally in the US, there is a division, I feel that people either have to work their arse off to show they are of value or that they come from something better and thus are "allowed" to be "house wives", but lets face it, the whole culture is really based upon someone being there for the children if you are to ever get truly "ahead".. I mean we've all seen what happens when there is no one at home when the kids come home from school- in the end no one should tell you that your choice to stay at home was "charity" on their part, when they had someone nice to come home to, to clean and to make certain there was someone there, watching the home, the children the properties and to even make dinner.. not to mention, who was it who gave birth?

That Mercury 12th house/ Venus 11th house mutal reception perhaps is not so much about charity but about joining together with groups of people who may have your interests in "charity"..

With so much Mercury/3rd house emphisis there must be something about communication which could get you started on your finding at least a source of income... I suppose asking friends, groups of people and communcating via newspapers (for example writing something for a group or organisation who needs support may be worth while and may get you in touch with your powerful Pluto/Mars energies to help you understand how you are a valuable resource... giving a voice to others who don't have one, for example)

I don't know about the exact timing of events but I would say no matter what that Jupiter in the 2nd house is a positive indicator that there is an income to be earned. And with Neptune as the ruler of the 6th house in the 5th will be trined the Moon in the 9th, It seems to sugest a different approach to your problems, and rather than being strictly 12th house, and charity organisations that you may find yourself a wonderful opportunity dealing with young people or something within the visual or performing arts.. This although doesn't seem that far removed from some ideas of charity and organisations it does mean that you must project yourself strongly, perhaps in order to give to those who need it, you need to allow yourself to have some attention for your tallents too.

I hope this makes some sense, as I am just doing this really spontaniously-

take care, and I hope something I said helped!

svenskasfinx

[AquarianEssence]

You've been very helpful Svenskasfinx. I hadn't quite grasped how the mutual reception worked in horary. Suddenly I'm seeing the comp hearing coming Oct. 3. Sun will be pretty close to this ascendant then and its the degree of my Pallas in the 3rd.

I think Venus may represent someone speaking on my behalf, a coworker who exalts Venus and is also a friend. The truth will win. Jupiter may be my attorney. I noticed he said in the filing that he may call co-workers to testify. At least on would put herself in her detriment to tell the truth, as I would.

Now does this also mean since Venus is in mutual reception with Mercury that Mercury could also be considered sextile Jupiter, and/or Venus conjunt Mars who is ruler of 2nd?

I'm seeing the contribution I make to internet groups (11th) but that isn't a source of income. I am also redesigning my website (creative endeavor of a Virgo and Pisces nature. I get little traffic at the yahoo location and am considering placing it with Juno, maybe keeping both spots for different purposes. The numerology is interesting and Juno is at 13 Virgo right now, coming to the eclipse degree. Even though it isn't really prominant in my chart it is square my husband's IC/MC so it affects me through him.

The square of Moon to Venus is partly my website struggles. I had it all redesigned but had to scrap it because the software company was bought out and won't support it, I can't publish it(9th). So I'm learning how to not be dependant on software of one type.

I guess I need to think about the possible types of Scorpio income/work.

[svenskasfinx]

aquarianessence said:

You've been very helpful Svenskasfinx. I hadn't quite grasped how the mutual reception worked in horary. Suddenly I'm seeing the comp hearing coming Oct. 3. Sun will be pretty close to this ascendant then and its the degree of my Pallas in the 3rd.

I think Venus may represent someone speaking on my behalf, a coworker who exalts Venus and is also a friend. The truth will win. Jupiter may be my attorney. I noticed he said in the filing that he may call co-workers to testify. At least on would put herself in her detriment to tell the truth, as I would.

Now does this also mean since Venus is in mutual reception with Mercury that Mercury could also be considered sextile Jupiter, and/or Venus conjunt Mars who is ruler of 2nd?

I'm seeing the contribution I make to internet groups (11th) but that isn't a source of income. I am also redesigning my website (creative endeavor of a Virgo and Pisces nature. I get little traffic at the yahoo location and am considering placing it with Juno, maybe keeping both spots for different purposes. The numerology is interesting and Juno is at 13 Virgo right now, coming to the eclipse degree. Even though it isn't really prominant in my chart it is square my husband's IC/MC so it affects me through him.

The square of Moon to Venus is partly my website struggles. I had it all redesigned but had to scrap it because the software company was bought out and won't support it, I can't publish it(9th). So I'm learning how to not be dependant on software of one type.

I guess I need to think about the possible types of Scorpio income/work.

The passing Square to Venus from the Moon isn't counted in this chart, but it is a "passing" energy-

One thing that I have noticed concerning Mutual receptions has been although the signs may be "detriment" or weak for the planet (for example Venus in Virgo) when in Mutual reception with Mercury it is said to neutralize any "evil aspects" I learned this with the question "will my son get a good school?" (look it up, its a really good lesson)

So with that in mind- you can say that Venus not only aspects both Jupiter (in the second house) but also the second house ruler.. and then if you think of the same thing with Mercury and Venus exchanging degrees you will find that it too is coming into aspect with Mars as you said.

Please don't think about your own natal chart in concern to the horary or the transits, try to think of the timing of the horary as a "world into itself" So the calculation of timing via the horary really speaks of the timing and movements symbolized within its own system- not on transits in the "real world".

With so many Significant planets in fixed signs or degrees I wouldn't place bets on things happening very fast however, the mutual reception thing may change that as there are significant degrees within Cardnal signs and that the ASC/DEC/MC/IC are all in Cardnal signs as well so things may happen faster than expected. I would like to say that sometimes the timing of a chart is also somewhat effected by the degree rising, so things can seem to react so much slower or come to fruition slower than expected just due to the lateness of the degree of the chart, but lets not think about that for now since it doesn't apply to this chart.

I'm glad I've been helpful.

svenskasfinx

[Kim Falconer]

Sven and AE, These are all good insights into horary. My first thought was WOW!!! Jupiter in the 2nd!

Jupiter in the 2nd expands the bank account...it brings MORE income and abundance. That it is sextile to your ruler says opportunity is not far away.

We also have the moon translating the lights between the ruler of the 2nd (Pluto) and the ruler of the first (Venus) because she squares Ve and then opposes Pluto (remember we give the moon every possible applying aspect). These aren't aspects that lack challenge but they do indicate money coming your way...

I always plot the Arabic part of fortune in any horary chart but particularly with a 2nd house question. If Fortuna, or its depositor is well placed, this would be our '3rd' indication of increased finances on their way.

Can you run it for us?

I'll check back soon.

Kim

ps In terms of Where to go to increase your income...it looks like 12th house occupations--working with those less fortunate, those confined, 'lost' in the collective, those 'without a voice' (animals, children, etc)...and 3rd house occupations--the written or spoken word. I wonder if you will be the 'voice' of those who need help?

[svenskasfinx]

Yes, I should have noted that I too didn't see Pars Fourtuna (see, I am not an expert and often need other people to point out some small thing I missed somewhere along the line)- Thanks Kim for pointing that out

.. with this in mind, I don't see the Vertex, (I happen to like the vertex in charts, it seems to speak whispers of things which seem subtle and then totally become "overwhelming". I like it as an indicator of where fate seems to be playing its hand..

I assumed that Jupiter in the 2nd must certainly mean an expantion of income but not without some kind of aspect to the ASC or its ruler, but with this mutual reception happening its a really flexible situation it seems as well in spite of so many fixed signs and houses.

thanks much again-

svenskasfinx

[blueorchids]

In your chart Sven:

Vertex is at 22 /28/3 in Aries 7th house trine Saturn and Pluto
POF is at 27/7/46 in Gemini 9th house and squares Mercury and opposes Pluto

[svenskasfinx]

blueorchids said:

In your chart Sven:

Vertex is at 22 /28/3 in Aries 7th house trine Saturn and Pluto
POF is at 27/7/46 in Gemini 9th house and squares Mercury and opposes Pluto

But with POF being the last aspect of the Moon- Wow, that is your "3rd" indicator-

With Vertex being trined to Pluto, it seems to sugest that it is fate that is playing the hand in the Pluto/Scorpio 2nd/3rd house energies and that other people will be very quick to take notice of this-

Thanks for the info Blueorchids! It really helps to put the small details into a chart!

svenskasfinx

[AquarianEssence]

Thanks, Blue, you beat me to it. For some reason my software hasn't been printing those. Thank you Sven and Kim. You've given me peace. I always "know" I'm taken care of but in the middle of things, its scary. Will the universe, God, abandon me? Silly, I know. I really see the legal issue here but I hope it is also about being able to bring in income for my gifts, not just my injury. My whole life I've received an abundance of praise and compliments but nothing, or very little to show me others truely value me. Words don't nourish the body.

3rd and 12th... Hmmm I've tried a lot to be a voice for those wrongly imprisoned but so far it has fallen on deaf ears. I see the connection with what was said in the Petition thread about power. So many think there is nothing one person can do. When the authorities act as if they are a law unto themselves (is that the right phrase?) then its no wonder people feel they are powerless. I'm starting to think it will take a civil war to remind our authorities of their place.

I suppose this could also hint at writing and publishing. I love to write in Scorpio fashion. LOL

Thanks so much for the help here. I had two other charts recently that spoke strongly of the 12th house. That is one of Guadelin's power zones, isn't it? Hmmm

[Juliet]

Hi Aqua, I agree with all things the others have stated. Also, I noticed your ruler Venus is Lord of the 8th too: income from others. This in itself speaks volumes.
How is your essences company doing??

My best, Juliet

[Kim Falconer]

With the Part of Fortune at 27 Gemini, you can take a sigh of relief. The final aspect of the Moon, (indicating the outcome) is a conjunction to Fortuna!

This chart is one of promise, hope and encouragement. I think it's saying "Every little thing is gonna be all right . . ." al la Bob Marley.

Warmly,
Kim

[AquarianEssence]

Thanks for the confirmation both of you. Juliet, it's weird. When I got put out of my job, I never received an order for months. I was beginning to feel like the whore of Babylon. LOL But I got an order for 40 Caley Cream last week from a long time fan of that product. I haven't been doing paid advertisisng because I've never seen a return for my money. The only ad I placed that ever got response was for my greenhouse and I mentioned my resident hummingbird visiting daily. He used to hover over my head lapping up the Nasturtium nectar while I transplanted. One time I almost got bowled over as two were chasing each other. Yesterday my 13 year old got hit in the head. Anyway, I just haven't figured out the best way to get the word out to the right people about what I do. Since I'm in the country I don't get drive by traffic and what I do, aromatherapy and occult sciences are a little out there for conservative Kalamazoo, Michigan. I will never make a profit by staying local. I used to sell oil by the gallon to several massage therapists but one of my customers wanted to save 50 cents or a buck per gallon and started a co-op with them to buy by the 5-gallon lots which is what I had been doing. I don't compete with anyone but myself. I give the best I can.

The Moon here is in the decan of my business name. The 8 of swords (62/8) is a picture of a woman bound and blindfolded with a barrier of swords (facts) firmly planted behind her. These are the facts and the only way out is to follow the path of water between two of the swords. That shows how aromatherapy works but also the tool necessary to apply astrology, numerology or tarot, the other things I do. Sometimes, in spite of the facts that tie your hands and blind you to the way out, you just have to follow your gut. And, aromatherapy is a liquid that affects the brain through the oleofactory bulb. Essential oils can change the way of thinking and seeing.

[Juliet]

Hi Aqua!

Had still been meaning to send this, but had to check my hunch first!
Well, Aqua, cusp 6 of daily work is Pisces, thus Jupiter is ruler, and we see it in the second. Jupiter is the traditional ruler of oil and wealth.
Go for the essences might mean going for your essence.
There's a whole world out there who needs essential oils!

Juliet

[AquarianEssence]

Thank you Juliet. Something happened last weekend that brought this chart back into my mind. And Pisces fits too. I met a man who told a similar story to my husband's. He had been arrested for alcohol, initially refused test, they took blood, shortly after took breath which they claimed .08, the legel limit. They let him go saying because they took blood they'd have to wait for that before proceeding, but in fact they had no recourse but to let him go. It has to be over .08 to charge him. They showed up with a blood reading of .15. I happen to know that is absolutely impossible since the breath always shows about a point higher than blood and it dissipates at about .015 per hour. Almost no time had elapsed between tests. I told him he needs to get the paperwork on the blood. I think they just make up the paperwork to get their conviction. With my husbands paperwork one of the two barcodes was missing and the number on the remaining barcode didn't match the paperwork. Also the previous paperwork was completely different than what was used in court.

I can't describe the intensitity of the emotions this stirs up in me, anger, righteous indignation maybe, complete dissillusionment and disapointment. These things are compelling me to want to speak out for these people but I don't know how to be affective. Even the state rep doesn't want to listen. The current system creates too many state jobs and brings in too much money. And there is a local black woman who used to be a practicing psychiatrist who spoke out agains a local judge and her life has been hell ever since. The first thing they did is take away her licience to work.