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Post by primamateria on Jun 12, 2006 3:26:02 GMT
Hi everyone, OK I know I am probably driving everyone nuts with all these questions about a dead-end thing with this guy - but this person keeps sticking in my mind (not like a gemini rising!) and I've had some disturbing dreams so I asked "is it over with him?" but the moon may be void of course - what do you all think?  |
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Post by Juliet on Jun 12, 2006 12:11:17 GMT
Dear Prima!! I believe you get a yes here, because Moon is indeed VOC, and on the IC/four= the end of the matter...
Also, your ruler mercury and his ruler Jupiter are separating. Your ruler is about to trine Uranus, ruler of 6... work?? Something unexpected in your daily routine, health?? It will be beneficial though.
I wonder what that VOC/NN conjunction in 7 is all about.
More later,
Love, Juliet
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Post by blueorchids on Jun 12, 2006 12:55:12 GMT
Wow Prima what a wild chart.  The Moon appears Void. Nothing will come of the matter and/or the matter is complete. He--Jupiter is retrograde in secretive Scorpio and you are at the top of your chart zooming by him as a Mercury--a trine but nonthelesss a steady paced moving separtaion on your part. Tthe Moon it is tight with change-making, life altering Pluto. But your moving on there as well, in a way that is close to home, deep in your psyche as you ride that inner IC. Venus is also clear sailing away from Mars. There you are exalted in Taurus. To me it symbolizes you gathering strength and moving along totally, getting on with it. The Moon is way past being in that Scorpio Fall, Venus is exalted and Mercury in the 10th conjunct Psyche. You are also about (soon) to hit that Uranus (in the trine you are past Jupiter already) in the 6th, That seems to add more to the picture of you pushing off, out and moving on. The separations plus the Pluto and Uranus collisions... What is also striking my eyes and sensibility is a POF and NN at ZERO in the 7th house of relationships yet not seemingly aspected to anything. This must be very significant, so tightly conjunct and in the 7th. Then I look again and see that powerful duo is actually aspecting in Trine MARS and SATURN which may be both him. That seems to say he too is at the brink of something entirely fresh and new. Note that it is also in Aries --fire and action, decisive movement. The zero seems to say brand new direction. I hope I am helping here. You know I am working as a novice. So once again folks, as always let's put our eyes together and chip in ... PS- I am sure Kim will come by! Thanks Juliet we were posting at the same time an dthen I got called from my desk!  |
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 12, 2006 22:19:08 GMT
Hello Prima,
It is hard to let go of things, and doubly hard when you are more accustom to doing so quickly. I understand why you ask the question.
The Moon is Void of Course because it makes not applying aspects. ALWAYS check the Part of Fortune though. If the Moon aspects POF, then she is only Zodiacally VOC and the chart is radical, fit to read. If you'd asked 2 minutes earlier, there would have been an aspect to POF!
Because your ruler Mercury is applying to his Neptune by inconjunct (again!) I wonder if you will hear news of him, or hear from him is some way (I mean, him finding some 'reason' to contact you). As far as answering the question though, we say "nothing'...nothing more will happen, or "there is nothing to worry about'.
Juliet said I believe you get a yes here, because Moon is indeed VOC, and on the IC/four= the end of the matter... and I would go with that. The Moon shows the action in the chart, and here "nothing more will happen'. If you’d asked something like "is the illness serious' we would say 'there is nothing to worry about".
The other thing about VOC Moon in a Horary is that often the querent will 'lose interest' before long. I think you will untangle the threads of "who was that and why were they here?" soon and move on.
That NN/POF in the 7th is an augur of 'something new comes your way'...
Kim
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Post by primamateria on Jun 13, 2006 0:07:00 GMT
thanks guys! Kim its funny you should say that about asking two minutes earlier because I know the clock on my computer is fast by six minutes and I did consider changing the time to the time on my watch, but then felt like I was cheating! Well, really, I just want things to be over with this person!?!?
And another funny thing is that POF/NN was in my dream from the night before I cast the chart - which twigged this morning when I went to write down yet another freaky dream, and saw that written down about Pars Fortunae.
I'm looking forward to whatever 'new' comes my way!!
joy all, pm
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Post by primamateria on Jun 13, 2006 10:06:32 GMT
Oh, an update... only hours after posting my last note - he shows up at my door... drinks coffee, chats like we're old friends... plays with my children and leaves after a couple of hours - kissing me on the cheek and saying 'good to see you'. It was just like being married.
I'd already deleted his number from my phone, not heard from him in a week.
ah, what the @#$% is going on?? lol
pm
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 13, 2006 22:17:02 GMT
I think I might say Life is fiction! Kim |
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Post by primamateria on Jun 13, 2006 23:28:05 GMT
ha ha, yes I think I have to agree with Kim on that one too |
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Post by primamateria on Jun 14, 2006 0:13:49 GMT
*sigh* I'm not feeling 'resolution' ... it was nice having him here though... different. As a rule I don't allow my 'lovers' to come to my house when my children are here - so that my 'mother' self is not seen. (mostly I don't want to expose my children) Once a guy starts seeing you as a mum they generally start behaving strangely. Quite a strange phenomenon. .. not that I've had so many lovers that I can call it a trend! This idea comes from the collective wisdom of all my single-mother friends. kim is probably right about me losing interest quite quickly now... except that we may become friends?? I wonder if it is possible!?!? pm |
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Post by primamateria on Jun 14, 2006 5:21:08 GMT
that's a very sad story Jade - I hope you aren't really 'beyond return'... well this is the second time in a few days that I've heard this lesson, so will take it in before I hear a third!
thanks,
pm
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jun 14, 2006 8:13:53 GMT
*sigh* I'm not feeling 'resolution' ... it was nice having him here though... different. As a rule I don't allow my 'lovers' to come to my house when my children are here - so that my 'mother' self is not seen. (mostly I don't want to expose my children) Once a guy starts seeing you as a mum they generally start behaving strangely. Quite a strange phenomenon. .. not that I've had so many lovers that I can call it a trend! This idea comes from the collective wisdom of all my single-mother friends. kim is probably right about me losing interest quite quickly now... except that we may become friends?? I wonder if it is possible!?!? pm I think when you asked that other question if there was anything to "him".. I can't recall your exact words, but I thought that the possiblity of a friendship was best for both of you, as maybe you need to start off that way, where children and everything are concerned, and if you have a "friend" at least one thing is true, it may last a whole lot longer and yet transform you in ways you have never thought you could with just that alone. I noticed this about friendships- they can do the same job as a "romantic" situation without alot of the issues of sex, and family. You can also be a part of his life, and he can trust and be changed by you, without you getting seriously and sexually intimate. Somewhere along the line, it will either grow, and you will help each other and rely upon each other just as in any other friendship... be well, svenskasfinx |
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Post by primamateria on Jun 14, 2006 11:27:44 GMT
thanks Svenskasfinx - you are right, I am in no position to explore anything more than friendship with this man because of his lifestyle and habits which are not compatible with my own... and as Kris wrote about me earlier in the year - I 'don't have the skills' for a relationship anyhow. pm |
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 16, 2006 0:09:14 GMT
I think the most important thing right now, PM, is to remember the key factors in a rich and fulfilling and non-mulengro (non-manipulative) relationship, be you lovers, friends or other...
Have:
No Expectations
No Assumptions
And I would include yourself in that as well.
Let go of the assumption that you 'don't have the skills' for a relationship anyhow. That is a limiting belief.
Perhaps insert "I am a relating being'...
I think we all need that.
Warmly,
Kim
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Post by jk on Jul 10, 2006 12:22:02 GMT
OK I know I am probably driving everyone nuts with all these questions about a dead-end thing with this guy - but this person keeps sticking in my mind (not like a gemini rising!) LOL PM, i missed this thread before. You and me the same then eh! Lots of hugs gong to you PM Only 4 weeks ago my b/f (ex...crumbs!  ) statred staying over on the nights that my son was with me. It took him time to make that desicion as he knew how important it was. I saw this as a sign of us moving closer. He said he loved me and we both said that we wanted this relationship to move foward, we both wanted, at some time in the future, to live together. Obviously he freaked himself out. To decide that he's not really capable of being in a relationship within 30 days of that decision is pretty awsome. This is first relationship since i left my son's dad 2 and half yrs ago. Had lovers, they come and go - never introduced them to my son yet alone have them stay when he was there. Thought this was something else. Sometimes we do expose our kids. They learn, i guess. Never again... P.S, I'm a Gem Moon, i really, really, need to talk about this.... all the time.... only way to get past it. Will be dropping this soon!! |
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Post by primamateria on Jul 10, 2006 13:08:02 GMT
oh JK, that is tough - that he made that decision and then freaked out.
what can you do? Its always a risk - and so much harder to take when there's a child involved.
So far I haven't had anyone to stay overnight - I have four daughters aged between 3 and 13 - because of this very reason.
Consider yourself BRAVE for having done it!
yes, you'll move on - there's something better for you, and for your boy, soon.
joy! pm
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) statred staying over on the nights that my son was with me. It took him time to make that desicion as he knew how important it was. I saw this as a sign of us moving closer. He said he loved me and we both said that we wanted this relationship to move foward, we both wanted, at some time in the future, to live together.