Determine lunar aspects in horary

[samina]

How do you guys approach determining all the approaching lunar aspects, up to the last one before the moon changes sign?

Do you have a systematic, short-cut method? This seems complicated to me. Am I just making it complicatead???


samina

[Kim Falconer]

:oYou're making it complicated! ;D

Just list out her approaching aspects in the order that they occur. Check the ephemeris to see when she (or other planets) change sign if it looks like there are aspects that wont complete before she moves on.

It only takes a minute and you get a real tactile, hands on feeling of the moon in terms of what events will unfold.

Let's do an example of this together so you get the hang of it.

Kim

(I’ll pop back tonight with an example!)

[samina]

Well, that's good news -- glad to hear it's easier than I thought.

If I'm able tonight, I'll put up a horary and put up what I see as the approaching aspects. Maybe you can check them, then, to see how I did in capturing them all? I'd appreciate that.

I always learn best by just doing it...

samina

[Kim Falconer]

Sounds good. I'll wait and see the chart and how you've listed the Lunar aspects!

Kim

[samina]

Okay, I calculated a horary for the following question: Where should I turn for resources (money) for school. The context of the question is that I'm not looking for a bit of dough to throw at a few part-time course over the next couple years. Rather, I'm talking major lifestyle change, with intense study in songwriting/music production, as well as dance, and in such a way that I do not have to return to the corporate realm. I started writing my health book, which is just pouring out of me (it soooo wants to be written right now! yay!), but there's the matter of holding down the fort with cash in the meantime. No corporate jobs are forthcoming anyway, so I'm just proceeding with what's in front of me, and looking for guidance as to the next step. It seems horaries are generally written for yes/no answers, but it seems to me that a chart could very ideally point me in the direction of the answer I'm seeking.

So... here's the chart, and my analysis of it, including the lunar aspects, follows!


And my notes on the chart:

--Me: Virgo, ruled by Mercury, which is conjunct the Sun (the answer) in the 7th house (sharing one-on-one with others). Seems to suggest I should keep moving in the direction I'm going, because I'll meet my answer there?
--Answer: Pisces, ruled by Jupiter, in the 3rd house (writing, speaking). Reinforces the writing/communicating aspect of the book?
--Virgo Ascendant: Work. Health. The fact that Virgo on is on the ASC & Uranus is in the 6th both seem to suggest a change in work direction, as well as reinforce the theme of my book.

--Gemini MC, conj. Mars: Learning. Action. Success. The chart matches my Mars Return overall, which tells me to *take action*, make it happen, use the all the energy & channels that are available to me.

--Lunar aspects:
*Last aspect was trine to Uranus
*Approaching trine to Sun & Jupiter, very close, then trine to Mercury.
*Does it matter that it will be inconjunct Neptune at the same time that it's trining Sun & Jupiter?
And that seems to be it without the moon going into another sign. Do I have them all?

Now, how do I *interpret* these lunar aspects... Let's see. The recent Moon trine Uranus speaks of a sudden change or awakening to a potential new work project (10th house), which would be very true. The book just started speaking through me and writing itself. There's tons of energy there!

That the moon will trine the Sun & Jupiter at the same time seems to suggest the ability to tap into a lot of creative energy and a sense of confidence & opportunity/support.

Venus/Chiron opposing Saturn from the 5th to the 11th speaks to me of a creative effort involving something I have to teach; consolidating that effort.

I'm not seeing $$$ plastered all over this chart, but I'm seeing validation as to how I'm using my energy.

Any comments from the peanut gallery, most particularly on the lunar bits???


samina

[primamateria]

Hi Samina,

I'll be the first monkey to comment then (peanut gallery???)

OK, there is a bit of confusion about significators - the question of 'resources' would implicate the second house cusp (Libra) and its ruler Venus or perhaps if you first look to school (considering this as higher/continuing education,and not 3rd house type learning) then perhaps 9th house cusp ruler (also Venus) and tenth house as the second (resources) of the ninth (school) - which implicates Mercury as the quesited as well as the querent.

Perhaps a more experienced horary astrologer can clarify this?

Moon last over Mars... a theme around here!

I'll leave the aspects to the experts... but just my two cents worth, the chart really does point to pisces (visually) which to me speaks of surrendering up those 'details' - and yes you really will meet the answer when you get there...

what kind of health book are you writing?

joy! pm

[samina]

hang on, wait a sec... venus rules the 2nd, and venus is opposed by saturn.

thwarted resources? i like my previous intepretation better. LOL
it can be nice to see what you want. but probly more helpful to have the observation of disinterested parties...

the moon was last over mars -- intensity, for sure. it'll next be over saturn -- i'm still inclined to see that about creative work, but i'm such an newbie with these horaries, what do i know?

samina

[Kim Falconer]

This is all good discussion here!

First up: Horary is not just a yes/no tool. Much is described in the layers of the chart regarding the question—you don’t have to make it a ‘Will I or Won’t I’ affair!

As for the Moon's Aspects in order of appearance:

Moon last over Mars--passion, fervour and energy around the question. You want an answer and you want it NOW! Yes, a burning question and a major theme on this forum!

Moon trine Sun
Moon trine Mercury Rx
Moon inconjunct Neptune
Moon trine Jupiter Rx
Moon inconjunct Pluto

The second house rules your resources and finances (movable possessions) and the ruler of the second describes them. Venus is the power to attract and opposing Saturn means she is less concerned with 'image' than she is with practical application. Saturn makes things more 'useful' if one is willing to do the work.

Venus ruling the 2nd brings money and support in times of need. Your ruler Mercury is not well placed, however, in the sign of its FALL and retrograde. Here you are hampered, unable to act or assert as you would like (you may have actually been unwell when you asked the question).

The ruler of the 2nd in the 5th says you will go to 5th house activities to earn extra cash (anything from street performance to child care!)

The aspects of the Moon are generally quite supportive and she (your co-ruler) is in her own sign (which helps out that ruler Mercury being a bit disabled).

The first aspect indicates what 'happens' first...trine to Sun is a connection with your goals and possibly help from an authority (student loans or grants?).

Have a go at interpreting each lunar aspect and translating that into an event which occurs in the order of the transits.

Hint: the final aspect shifts because of the mutual reception from Jupiter to Pluto. You can read Pluto in Scorpio at the same 26 degrees bringing the final aspect to be a trine! The Last aspect of the Moon describes how 'things turn out'.

Also look to the 4th from the second. What does that day about how your financial situation goes (4th from the house in question is outcome of that question).

I'll be back to see what you come up with!

Kim

[samina]

Okay, I'm ready to dig back into this and see how this all works.

First question: How much of an orb do you prefer to use for the lunar aspects?

Also, do we want to list the lunar aspects in the order that they will occur? If so, then I get the following sequence:

Moon trine Sun
Moon inconjunct Neptune
Moon trine Jupiter Rx
Moon trine Mercury Rx
Moon inconjunct Pluto... or actually, Moon trine Pluto because of the mutual reception (I like that -- didn't know that it works that way!)

Okay. So having Mercury hampered by being in Pisces & retro makes a lot of sense. I *have* been hampered, VERY diffuse in my mental and daily tasking energy, somehow just unable to act with respect to planning as I usually would. I feel very drifty & receptive. But perhaps having the Moon in Cancer and a resourceful Pluto in the 4th, I'll find my support *through* that receptivity. Let's see how the aspects look...

Moon trine Sun *Could* be a loan... although the attendance office of the music school I want to attend has been sending me emails, asking me if my loan info has been completed, I've had zero inclination to take that route. I don't want debt hanging over me. However, just in the last day or so, I suddenly decided that I would at least look into it, because I really am SO SERIOUS about pursuing my goals. I have a crystal clear 5-pointed set of objectives, and whatever I have to do to achieve those things, I intend on doing it! It's just that the energies that feel available to me are so much more watery & intuitive rather than concrete & directive. Anyway... on to the next aspect.

Moon inconjunct Neptune, which is in the 6th -- could that be what I have described above? My ability to complete daily tasks has been so hampered as well... my house, my paperwork, so much to do, which could get done in a couple of days, really, and yet I wade quietly through a fogginess that redirects me away from those things.

Moon trine Jupiter Rx -- is this at all affected by the fact that the Moon, Jupiter, Sun, Merc, & Uranus are in a grand water trine, or do I just go ahead and break everything down separately & ignore the trine? This particular trine seems to me to open up an opportunity, especially with respect to learning (3rd house) -- it seems to reinforce the education element. What else could it be, I wonder... a communication or contact that opens up an opportunity. That's what I get.

Moon trine Mercury Rx -- getting information that makes a difference in my direction, a paradigm shift? In the 7th conjunct that Sun, could be tied to that loan... entering into a contract.

And then, the final aspect, Moon trine Pluto -- I know the 2nd house isn't involved here, but I see resources all the same because of the support aspect of the 4th house and the powerful resourcefulness I attribute to Pluto, reinforced by the Moon/Cancer energy, which highlights very personally felt goals (10th house). Pluto seems to really provide support here in some way.

Something else that came up this week: I've strongly connected with new ballroom dance instructors, a couple that compete at a very high level, approaching the very top of their game. They teach at my gym, where I take ballet & modern dance, and I decided I want to basically give myself over to them and have them make a "project" of me, to put together a program to get me to a very basic competitive level. The Uranus/Sun/Merc on the 7th seems to speak to me of that. And of course, doing this requires even more money than for the music school. But I've simply *decided* that I'm doing all these things. How the universe helps me realize them... I don't know how that will happen, but perhaps the greatest benefit of all this Piscean energy is that I just have so much faith and so much *feeling* that it will all work out. I am completely moving in the direction of my goals. I just need to find some hard cash to put under them, for concrete support.

So, how things turn out... I see some resources coming available.

***4th from the 2nd for financial situation... oh, I see. The question is ruled by the 2nd house, so the 4th from the 2nd is the outcome. Gotcha. That would be the 5th in the horary, correct? Where Venus is residing, the ruler of the 2nd & the question itself... which seems to bode well. It seems to tell me that there is money available for my creative pursuits! What about Chiron's placement there... would you take that into account? Seems to me it could represent teaching support as well, which is definitely everywhere I turn these days.

This is all so fascinating. I'm really inspired by how that other horary worked out, the one regarding the relationship in my life that recently came to closure, and so I am curious how this one will tell the tale!


sami

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Sam,

Great work here! It's really well thought out.

samina said:

First question: How much of an orb do you prefer to use for the lunar aspects?

The Moon is allowed unlimited orb in Horary. Every aspect that she applies to 'counts' even if it's 29:59:99 degrees away.

And, Yes, you do list the aspects in order...my mistake there!

And the outcome 4th from the 2nd is helped by Venus being there. Saturn rules and is in opposition, so I'm guessing there is some very hard work to do...but that makes sense if any of the films I've seen on ballroom dancing are close to accurate!

Good luck!

Kim