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Post by primamateria on Feb 18, 2006 8:48:57 GMT
Hi guys... ;D this question came to me like a bolt of lightening.. I'd had a conversation this afternoon about how I am 'not looking' any more (focusing on my career etc) but got this sudden urge to ask - will I fall in love this year? I'm not sure about the outcome with this chart - sun (me) and Saturn (7th cusp ruler) are not applying but are in mutual reception... and sun is approaching 7th 'new ruler' Uranus - when it moves out of sign, that is... moon and sun are app. harmoniously but they are both 'me'! Maybe I am only going to love my Self at this stage. Also - the NN and Fortuna are conjunct in a Pisces/Neptune ruled 8 in the degree of my natal Chiron... some healing to be had/done, something mysterious anyway. 7th Ruler Saturn is trine this conjunction too. Does any of this make sense? blessings, pm
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Post by primamateria on Feb 18, 2006 21:52:40 GMT
ps. that moon is within a degree of my natal moon - this is the second month in a row that I have asked a horary and the chart has been almost the same as my lunar return. Strange.
and the sun app. square to mars is a bit worrying.
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Post by leanne on Feb 19, 2006 3:42:47 GMT
wow.. that's a powerful synchronicity !! (with the moon)
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Post by leanne on Feb 19, 2006 4:01:33 GMT
hi prima! i am just learning hooray and I don't know much about how the planets and houses are to be interpreted, so please take my words without much weight here!.. the following are the parts of this chart that jump out at me ~~>
~the moon is in the second house of values in trine aspect to the sun and neptune in the house of partnerships.. perhaps a perspective/value shift is spoken about here as it relates to partnering?
~mars is at zero degrees in your house of employment (("focusing on my career etc")).. wow! in sextile to saturn in the 12th resting on the ASC..
**also the square-- hmmm.. i think it speaks that it shall be challenging for you in a way to dedicate yourself entirely to "focusing on your career etc".. i mean, we have every possibility within us of coarse! And, we can do whatever we please! but, it may just be an extra struggle to keep your thoughts aligned with your actions.. that's all..
squares look scary i know, but if we stay clear we can always work with our challenges (cliche but true, they make us stronger!)
wishing you luck and clarity and, wowza on the synchronicity of the moon, really! you have some pretty clear channels, i'd bet, Leanne
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 19, 2006 22:26:36 GMT
Hi PM,
What a wonderful bolt of energy to experience, 'The question of falling in love'. I think it shows a powerful movement in your psyche, one towards a whole new life.
The Sun, your ruler, at 29 degrees of the sign says you are on the verge of change--a whole new horizon coming (and a feeling of 'about #@!%-ing time!)
I did this chart up on my astro clock and advanced it to see if the Moon can complete her trine to the sun before the sun changes sign, as she does. (29 Aq 54') This is an important step because it not only speaks for a 'yes' (at the 11th hour, perhaps) but we CAN give the 'unknown other' the Moon as co-ruler and count this as a trine aspect between the querent and quesited.
The Mutual reception, and you both being in each other's houses (Saturn is conjunct Asc) suggests that the attraction and subsequent relationship is both mutual and fairly 'instant'. You'll know this man when you meet him.
Though things have been hard, gruelling even, and isolating and lonely, (Moon last conjunct Saturn) the next to aspect the Moon makes are a sextile to Pluto and then the trine to the Sun---things get better 'when they do".
I would take heart. And, I would answer 'yes'.
Warmly, Kim
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Post by primamateria on Feb 20, 2006 0:52:47 GMT
Hi Leanne and Kim ;D thanks for your replies! I feel very blessed to have so much support from all here Leanne, You did great! Your interpretation of the moon in second house struck a chord with me (strictly speaking, horary uses only applying aspects, but you've picked up on something there ). I've looked back over my charts and this is the third 'relationship' question/chart with a second house moon. And my mother pointed out to me only on friday that my values have changed a whole lot in the last couple of years. (Pluto has been in my 7th house, I left my husband around the time of Pluto conj. natal Mars at 16 sagg - it has been quite a journey). I realise I have had serious self worth issues. But lately life has been like Psyche's journey to the underworld to collect Persephone's beauty - having to learn to say 'no' to preserve the integrity of heart/soul that has grown through all this. So true, too, about the synchronicity of the moon in asking the questions. On the one spot in the via combusta that is 'safe', too. Thank goodness for a mercurial birth (my mother had a fifteen minute labour, unattended). Yes, Mars sextile Saturn - working at developing the self disipline and motivation to stick at developing a home-based business..... and I wonder if Saturn (significator of the the 'other' in this relationship question) is hiding in 12 while I work through the dilemma (sun sq mars) typical of a single mother, which is the need for energy to 'do everything' - as in look after four little girls, University studies, build up a career, as well as maintain friendships and relationships. The Lord of Time in the 12 house must have something to say about all this. yes, and by now I must be made of something utterly unbreakable ;D Thanks, Kim. Its true - everything does feel like its about to be very different.. I wrote on the Mars thread earlier that its like waiting to be catapulted into the blue. Thanks, too, for progressing the chart (what a nifty trick!). Thats close - the trine completing at about as late in the 11th hour as it can get! Is there somewhere on the net that I can read about these more esoteric rules of horary? The method can be so confusing at times - but do understand the moon-sun thing in terms of metaphor. Looking at the moon trining pluto in the fifth, ruled by Sag/Jupiter...Jupiter himself in mutual reception to Pluto via his postion in the third there - is this a similar thing to the Sun/Moon trine?? bless, pm
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Post by Kris on Feb 20, 2006 9:10:00 GMT
Dear PM and Kim,
I don't counter all the positive things projected by the chart on this question. BUT,
What about the Moon in via combusta in 2nd. Also noteworthy is moon's tight sextile to Pluto in 5th. So PMs mind is on "very intense love making" but her skills may not at best be supportive since moon is lord of 12th house. Traditional lord of 7th house - Saturn is in 12th and is retrograde - indicate the DC person is at a loss and elude the AC person. Thus, I find complication for both AC and DC persons. With Moon not qualifying I don't see positive developments ULTIMATELY.
Can the mutual reception of AC and DC lords nullify the impact of these strong antis ?
regards Kris
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