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Post by primamateria on Jan 25, 2006 0:31:38 GMT
 I cast this chart for a friend who emailed it to me this morning - she has been contemplating leaving for some time as her partner isn't quite human (that's putting it nicely)... she has twins and a singleton child (very young still 5 and 4). I think she's asking about 'now' being the right time because the partner will be away for three weeks. I wasn't sure which house to use as 'leaving' - is there a rule for this? I thought 8 or 12 (as houses associated with death and other taboos). so she is signified by Jupiter, traditional ruler of the Asc ... with applying sextile to Venus, ruler of 8th cusp.. I took this as an immediate YES (and frankly I wouldn't want to say no, the man really is quite unevolved)... not sure of what to make of Venus retrograde in this case.... perhaps she is afraid of losing her property (it is her house). Any input would be appreciated - I'd like to be able to advise her wisely on this. Peace and Joy, prima |
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Post by Juliet on Jan 25, 2006 12:13:26 GMT
Whatever the horary says, tell her to leave him!!!!!!
It's so sad that she leaves it up to you somehow, but I understand. Been there, done that. That's why one is in such a relationship in the first place.
Three weeks gives her a reasonable time to arrange things for herself and her kids.
I wish her all the best and lots of trust in herself.
Peace,
Juliet
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Post by Amoroso on Jan 25, 2006 13:00:17 GMT
Yes, advise her to leave! This situation seems as though it does not need a horary.
However, if you take her spouse as Mercury (Virgo) there is an applying sextile from Jupiter to Mercury, also giving a yes to the question.
Please pass on words from my Ma when I had to go in for my 7th surgery--"CORRAGGIO!"
Amoroso
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Post by gemstar on Jan 25, 2006 13:31:25 GMT
Much Peace and safety for your friend. I agree with all above.....NOW IS the best time to leave. Wherever she goes will be safer than where she is-anytime!!
This three weeks is her time.
Hugs-
GemStar
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jan 25, 2006 20:44:42 GMT
I don't think we need to look at the chart for this question either. NOW is always the right time to leave an abusive situation, though as Juliet said, I also understand why one can be in a relationship like that--and why it can be difficult to change.
The chart is interesting--the Moon last over Jupiter suggests thoughts of freedom, expansion and her desire to 'escape' (with the Pisces Asc). She is stronger in this situation than he is. (both her rulers are in their own signs by mutual reception where as his ruler is peregrine in Capricorn)
Pluto on the MC (the end of matter 4th to the 7th house of marriage) speaks clearly of 'death of the relationship'...as does the Moon coming up to square Uranus--separations. With the 12th house involved, there is much grief involved. If she doesn't leave him, there will be no 'life' in the staying.
With the ruler of the marriage (Mercury) also being the ruler of the 4th house property or home there will probably be entanglements there.
What your friend may need the most now is support, clarity and strength. Is she seeing a counsellor? Does she know her legal rights? She's going to have to take the bull by the horns, I think, and look after all the practical matters as well as process the intense emotions (while being a stable ground for the children)...It is daunting though she has the strength to do it!
Kim
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Post by sopranokris on Jan 27, 2006 15:38:26 GMT
Having just ended a long marriage (though by no means abusive), I can honestly say that even though it's very difficult to leave, especially when children are involved, she should do it. It feels like the weight of the world has been lifted from your shoulders when you finally break free from a bad relationship. It's by no means "easy" and even though it's tough to explain to children, it's better for them in the long run to see their mother healthy & happy, not sad and being manipulated.
In your friend's case, there should be no question that regardless of the horary, it's the RIGHT thing to do by leaving and ending the relationship. My heart goes out to her, it's so difficult to break free when you don't feel you have the strength to make it on your own. It can feel overwhelming when trying to face the prospect of supporting yourself on your own. Just tell her to tackle one thing at a time. I'm glad she has a friend in you to turn to to give her that little extra nudge that says it's OK to go ahead and do it. Please make sure she gets a restraining order against the ex so he doesn't harm her or the children in any way!
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Post by samina on Feb 1, 2006 5:19:13 GMT
prima, let us know when bec marches out into her her new life so I can light a candle in support. In fact, I'll light one tonight for her anyway, in honor of her courageously being ready to pioneer a new life direction! More power to her, prima!!  samina |
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Post by pm on Feb 2, 2006 3:27:57 GMT
thanks everyone, I've been offline for a while but I'm seeing bec tonight and will certainly pass on everyone's good wishes and support
blessings pm
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