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Post by blueorchids on Oct 8, 2005 16:20:03 GMT
Okay friends, Part 26 of said sad Saga. As mentioned in our last soap opera episode, Doc and I may in the future collaborate on a book. In typical tortured fashion I have been avoiding emailing him since realizing how much I look forward to working on this possible project, and to sharing his company. Does my due diligence in not penning him stop me from thinking about it. No. of course not. The good news is I am willing to wait 30 years for this whole thing to play itself, however it does. I asked: Will this project lead to love? As the ever growing significant bond, I put him once again in 7th H ruled by Mercury and Me the Asc ruled by Sag. Sag is my natal rising as well. So what is happening? All the players are under the influence of Libra albeit two Houses 10 and 11. He as Mercury is at 22 and approaching me Jupiter at 25. The Moon is also in Libra at 13. Aspects approaching and applying...Before going void the Moon will trine both Mercury and Jupiter. Major questions: Is the Moon wrecked by its proximity to the Sun, or weakened? It is moving away from the Sun now and will move further to Trine both significators. Can I or should I attempt to assign "the project" (a published health book) to a house. Would it go to 9? If so it is ruled by Leo, the Sun which is already in close conjunction to the Moon? None of the players are in dignity or exalted (?) though I would think Libra Moon (his natal by the way) would be aces for artistry and the creativity required by the project. It seems to also intimate a growing friendship, companionship (put love aside though asked about). Libra in Mercury seems very apt because it implies scientific research and investigations and mental stimulation through intimate friends. I note a number of grand trines and t-squares. The Air Grand of Sun/Moon and Neptune and Juno seems most significant. Venus in 12th house-secrets but i have not assigned her. Bloody Eros--always haunting me (starting with my natal chart where it sits on my Mars in house four Aries to now) is lurking in House 1. Does that betray my attraction to him? PLUTO! is also there with POF. An endeavor and relationship with powerful soul shaking impact? And what of Juno in his H7?..At least it's Gemini (fierce communication/needs more than one relationship) and not Cancer...LOL... Any thoughts? Am I way way off...? (Feel free to say not only will it not lead to love but you will crash into oblivion...Is that the Moon 13 I see at SNode, opposite NN...LOL)
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Post by Amoroso on Oct 11, 2005 12:37:33 GMT
Dear BO,
I wish I had more time to suggest a more thoughtful answer, but it looks like a Yes to your question, with Sun and Moon above the horizon and the upcoming conjunction of your significators.
In Anthony Louis' book, which I keep quoting because it is the only book I have on horary, he says that planets Cazimi are "between zero and seventeen minutes from the Sun, "in the heart of the Sun," corporally joined with the Sun and therefore greatly strengthened."
I think Venus in 12th Scorpio means that at the time you asked this, your love is very hidden, but I like the aspect from Venus to Chiron in 2nd house Capricorn. This relationship has been extremely healing to you on so many levels, building in an inner strength.
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 11, 2005 23:37:08 GMT
I might be missing something, but isn't the question a bit moot?
From where I am sitting, it's already well and truly led to love.
???Kim
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Post by blueorchids on Oct 12, 2005 2:59:41 GMT
Thanks Amoroso. I can not seem to get the rule right on combust versus just weaken or cazimi. But I think I get what you are saying! Yes, knowing each other has been healing for me, both literally and now beginning to be so figuratively.
Kim, Thanks. You said: "isn't the question a bit moot?
From where I am sitting, it's already well and truly led to love."
I'm not sure what you mean by "moot?" Maybe I asked the question incorrectly? The project has only been discussed superficially and no definitive commitment made yet. I won't know more about it until the end of the month. I have never eaten a meal with this person, walked out side with him in the sun or even heard what he was like when he was boy so maybe it's just me. It's hard for me to see it as "love" and already determined and therefore passe or moot. I wanted to know if the project would lead to that in the truest sense of communication and even romantic love. I am undoubtedly clouding my question worse. Sorry. LOL.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 12, 2005 22:19:57 GMT
Oh, BlueOrchids, I just meant the question was moot or arguable--I feel you already love him. . .it has already led to love. The things you describe--sharing meals, intimate walks ect--are lovely and beautiful forms of intimacy, but not love. Love is a feeling. The feeling is there. I want to stress how important 'asking the right question' is. Do you want to know if the project will lead to an intimate relationship? That is something different than ‘love’. This might sound pedantic but HORARY will answer your question as you state it--so you have to make very accurate use of your words. In the chart above, with Venus rising and the significators conjunct the answer is Yes--it's already there (as you know). If you reflect on your feelings, can you describe them as anything but love? If you want to know where the project will lead, or if you'll have an intimate relationship with each other of if there will be a project at all, well, those are different questions. I think this chart reflects that there will be a project and that your feelings of love are not going to disappear—but that’s more conjecture than a direct answer to the question. If there wasn’t going to be a project, I think we’d have a void of course moon. I suggest you wait until the project is well underway before you consult the Horary about where it might lead. Does this make sense to everyone? Are there any questions about 'asking the right question?' As for the time of this question, you asked it right on the Solar Eclipse! (brave woman you are!). Traditionally, this adds an incredible level of intensity and 'risk' in this case, possibly emotional or body...or is the project very deeply connected to the nature of the body? Bodies at risk? Extreme cases? With the moon 'translating the lights' of Venus and Mars (--see how Venus and Mars are past their aspect but the moon, in an earlier degree, will inconjunct them both—that’s called translating the lights) --a third person will be instrumental in this experience. Publisher? Partner? That’s 12th / 6th axis speaks of ‘secret work’. To answer the question though, yes, the project has already led to love--And the North Node in the 'end of matter' 4th suggests a creative, welcomed outcome. Does this make more sense? Let me know, Kim
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Post by blueorchids on Oct 12, 2005 23:03:50 GMT
Thanks Kim. I understand and I appreciate your follow up response. Of course I would be too chicken scared to ask about intimacy or sex so I ask about love and you see where plainly it got me.
The thing is and you get to the core of this so well is. I am not sure I have ever really known what love is, until maybe now. I don't mean mother and child love. I am wonderfully aware of that sensation. But this is different.
..The project would actually be body related--health and the alleviation of disease and early death through preventive care.
As always, great and helpful advice!
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