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Post by kansara on Sept 27, 2005 16:28:25 GMT
I'd like to ask anybody out there if is possible to help me finding an answer about a man very special to me, whith whom I am not yet involved (... but I hope for the future! ) The problem is i didn't saw him from over 3 months and a half, and is very strange because usually we used to see eachother quite often. I can't get in touch with him and I am worry for him, worry I won't be able to see him anymore I don't know what is happening to him! Is he ill or in any truble, or left the city or country for a longer period of time ?! ... I just don't know and I need some answers. I am trying for a while to learn horary myself but I don't have enough time to reach a high level of knowledge.. Enyway if was a yes-no question maybe was a little bit easyer for me, bur to find out more details about him ... it seems too hard for me! I only can see I am ruled by Saturn and Uranus beeing in 1st and like second ruler of Aquarius and him by Sun. Uranus in first house can indicates surprising changes, hope for good! Sun will apply with a sextile to Saturn in about 4 degrees and the Moon as well, will follow with its first aspect to Sun also in about 4 degrees if I am not wrong! To understand will be good news regarding my matter ? (wishing to see him soon - maybe will be a chance)? On other hand my ruler Saturn is in leo where him (the Sun) is ruler - It meeans he has good feelings about me? The end of the matter the 4th from 7th is ruled by Jupiter which is on Spica supposed to be something good for us for the future? But what is about him? I don't have a clue! Also if I am looking to time factor of this aspect of the Moon in 6th, cadent house and in Leo, fix sign gives me an unknown limit of time putting me in fog once again!
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Post by svenskasfinx on Sept 28, 2005 6:42:22 GMT
I think what makes this chart hard to read is I can't exactly put what he is to you in this chart.. for example, is he a friend? then I would look to the 11th house... is he a hopeful lover? then I would look to the 5th.. is he a partner... a buisness partner, an equal?.. perhaps 7th house.. see what I'm getting at?
Was he a work mate? ect..
I get the impression once we KNOW exactly what he is, then it will be easier to "find" him..
just a thought,
I hope it helps,
svenskasfinx
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Post by kansara on Sept 28, 2005 11:58:41 GMT
He is my first love since I was in elementary school, but we never had a real relationship. We are also a kind of neighbours, we living by eachother abot 5 min walk and is also more near with his home to my mum ( so we used to live more near by eachother in that time) But I can't see him like a neighbour! Since last 5 years we met very often on our roads and I get the feeling that a special bond was created between us, especially in the last year. I dream about him very much and I've always considered him the most special guy ever! And now, I hope after I'll get out from my curent relationship which is broken almost right now, to have a special longlasting relationship with him. I don't know if it will be possible ... but that I am hoping for! Thinking more like a relationship issue I look to 7 house for him.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Sept 28, 2005 22:59:08 GMT
Hello Kasara,
What is the question?
I think the chart suits, especially with Neptune rising--your fog--and I suspect he is 'the other' 7th house, but I don't see what you are asking.
Clarify it and we'll have a look.
Also, everyone, when posting charts for horary, please stick to the traditional major planets. If you think of one or two asteroids that are essential, add them, but keep it simple to start with.
Kim
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Post by kansara on Sept 29, 2005 7:26:19 GMT
My question is what is going on with him, what is doing, where he is, anything to clarify why I didn't saw him at all in the last 3 moths and a half ... almost! And of course if is there any clue to find out if he will be back home soon to start seeing him as before. I have the feeling is not in the city anymore, but I don't know if is true, or if is true, how far is he and if he will be back soon?! I added the simple map. Thank you!
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 2, 2005 9:11:38 GMT
Thanks for re-posting the chart.
We can say a few things about him and 'where he is at'. Sorry I didn't understand the question the first time.
The Sun as his significator suggests he is commanding, respected and in a position of GAIN right now.
Su conjunct Mercury says he is involved with communications, travel, using his wit, representing others in business deals, making profitable journeys and favourable changes.
I think he's fine.
In all the times you bumped into him did he ever mention plans to move? Can you get his phone number and ring him? Find out where he is from a mutual friend?
I get the feeling you will have news of him (perhaps indirectly with the inconjunct from sun/Uranus). You may hear of his activities from a 3rd person. Or you might hear from him yourself.
Was your friendship established to the point that you would call or email or write him to 'stay in touch?"
Let us know how you go!
Kim
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Post by kansara on Oct 3, 2005 8:26:00 GMT
Thanks a lot Kim!
Isn't he weack in libra as Sun is in fall there? And will be conjuction with South Node as well ...
Unfortunatly, our relationship didn't reach the point to stay somehow in touch. We just used to see eachother too often around home mostly. Few months ago (6 months ago, more exactly) he received visit of some friend/relatives from abroad and after other 3 months spent together with them, he vanished from my view! Which is very strange, he never used to go anywhere! And I supposed he went with them back to them country ... maybe, for a while (I hope!)
I can find out his cell number but I am not confortably to call him! Maybe will look too strange to him ! I only can ask one mutual friend, which is not at all close to him, to try to ring his mum home and find some news... so, if I'll succed in this, it will be news from the 3rd person - as you said!
But what about coming back? Any sigh that will be back home soon, to start seeing him as before? Or is he moving for good somewhere else?!? Jupiter, ruler of his 4th and 5th home - so his home and his romance is in Libra as well like his Sun. The Moon, last aspect will be sextile to Jupiter, isn't it? Also Sun will reach Jupiter later on. Can be a sign will be back home? in 5-6 weeks time? (libra-cardinal and 8 th house-succedent) Also Jupiter is on Spica now!
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Post by Kris on Oct 3, 2005 9:10:44 GMT
Hi Kansara,
Your case is very interesting. We call it "dumb" love.
The chart does not show the date, time, place and country from which it is shot. I use my own diagnostic tools as well while reading the charts for which I need the above details.
Can you post them ?
Kris
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Post by kansara on Oct 3, 2005 12:38:03 GMT
27th sept. 2005 time 17:20 Bucharest - Romania Thank you Kris, for your help and I am wishing you the best of luck to find a home as you like. I read your last tread and btw I have the same opposition moon - uranus as you have, but mine is in 4th house! (my Moon is on 9,40 virgo) with the retrograde motion of Uranus is not so exact right now, but will be back again later on! So, it means our Moon is almost in the same place!
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Post by Kris on Oct 5, 2005 6:14:12 GMT
Hi Kansara,
I understand your question "what happend to him" has come since you could not see him for a long time. Remember, in horary the question must be precise as the chart answers ONLY the query but not other things.
The 1st house lord - Uranus - indicate you whereas the other person is shown by 7th. He is fine since Sun is in 7th and is unafflicted. 'Fall' suggest loss of control over the issues, in this case projection of self (1st house). The answer to your query is "Nothing happend to him". I don't think the chart answers your other concerns "where is he and why is he not seen".
Yes. your natal Moon conjunct my Moon, Psyche Eyphrosyne conjunct in Virgo. I see Sappho (frienship) conjunct your Moon. Look at the house position of Moon to have a better picture of current situation. I believe you are under the sway of tranist Uranus opposing natal Moon and Sappho.
Uranus is retrograde since 15th June and become direct on 15th December. Planetary retrogrades are generally crisis periods for the themes indicated by them. With Uranus, we should expect the unexpected. Surprises pop out from every corner and this can be either marvelous or startling, depending on the situation. Uranus is the Wild Card of the Planets; it can bring drastic whims and shifts that amaze and bemuse.
The issue comes up when the planet crosses a sensitive point (the point opposing your Moon Sappho conjunct) and the crisis begins when the planet again crosses the same point on retrograde motion. Moon Uranus opposition is not easy to handle as we feel lost somewhere, the heart flutters, wanted to do 'something' but never know what and a general sense of insecurity. The issue is indicated by the house of transit and the Moon. The crisis starts resolving once the planets turns direct (in this case on 15th Dec) and finanally concludes when the planet crosses the same sensitive point.
Right now you are facing Uranus induced crisis. You mentioned about ending the current relationship and start afresh with this guy for a long lasting relation. Right ? Moon approaching Sat the lord of 12th in the chart. The heart deceives when Moon conjunct Sat in horary. You would be freed of the intense feel for this missing guy with uranus turning direct. This is what I see.
Difficult to believe ? The case of Fabee who had a strong feel for someone comes my mind.
Kris
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Post by kansara on Oct 5, 2005 9:43:31 GMT
Thank you so much Kris for your nice answer.
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