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Post by Juliet on Jun 20, 2005 22:50:58 GMT
Hi to you all! Just noticed that Saturn through Cancer (10 Can= cusp 7, opp cap Moon-As) brought me the longest desertlike (not dessert, mind you) period in my lovelife ever!!!!!! The last time it was there, in 75, it was dull, but I had a boyfriend. My heart felt kind of unreachable though. Its transit into Leo brought new life, the father of my kids... Difficulties with Cancer energy, it's something about being way too sensitive and harnessing myself. Fits Cancer and my Cap Moon of course, and it's worse now I'm older. Has anyone noticed something similar when Saturn was transiting the sign on the Des?? You won't be surprised when I tell you I'm looking forward to the 16th of July! And especially to Saturn transiting natal Uranus at 9 deg of Leo. Lots of ... Juliet
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 21, 2005 1:15:18 GMT
Juliet, I'll be waving flags that day too! I have found the last 2.5 years hard going emotionally. A lot of emotional pain and hopefully, clearing. Time will tell. I do have Uranus in Cancer though and the conjunction brought (more emotion) and exciting changes. Daring changes... I think Saturn in Fire is going to light things up! I can't wait! Kim In 73-75 I had a cold, aloof, detached and demanding boyfriend...my first live-in. Torcher. I felt a lot of relief when that ended...right as Saturn went into Leo!!! (11th house to 12th!) Saturn in my 7th, transiting Pisces, were (as a child and adult) some of the loneliest years of my life…and also very magic at times...glimpses
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Post by Amoroso on Jun 21, 2005 2:08:08 GMT
Yes, Juliet and Kim and all, I am actually looking forward to this Saturn transit across Leo, too!
It starts with my natal Uranus/Pandora/Moon at 0, 1, 2 Leo and doesn't stop until it gets to my natal Jupiter/Pluto conjunction at 25/26 Leo! Giddy-yup!!!!! I am starting to feel the effects now, although with Kim's help I started thinking about this awhile ago.
And yes, with the Saturn transit through Cancer, and over my natal and progressed Venus, well, thank goodness that has passed. Not only did I not feel like I received "love" from my significant others, but finances became a wreck when I couldn't work for about a year out of those two years.
So I am totally with you on this one, although I am sure there will be Saturnuan challenges as usual. I feel up for these, though. (So do our two cats, and I will sing the role of Aslan, the lion in the musical "Narnia" in the next year--the first woman cast in this role! It was written for a man, and after I sang they recast the show to accomodate Aslan as a woman!!! ROAR. and it feels good to roar when I have been pitifully meowing for a long time......)
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by Kris on Jun 21, 2005 6:20:39 GMT
Hi Juliet,
I was LOST during the last transit of Saturn in Cancer in my AC during 1974-1976. It was opposing my progressed Mer in CAP. I could not judge anything properly, felt aloof, repeatedly questioned my worthlessness and even ran away from home for sometime. All cancer ingredients like emotions, looking back at myself, defensiveness and family were there. It was very depressing. AT the end of 1976, I bounced back to normal self, determined to prove my worth. I believe the transit in the final degrees of Cancer effected the change in mindset after 2 years of testing. The transit over final few degrees of any sign give meaningful end to the drama and with saturn it is the selfworth I was struggling to address.
As Saturn entered Leo, I dropped a year of my studies to makeup lost concentration leading to useful grading in the final examinations of graduation. I went away from home to pursue higher studies in 1977 a time when sat transited my 2nd sign touching uranus there. I had to manage finances. I showed the world time and again that I am no inferior and in fact better than many and my worth was acknowledged - all LEO type.
The current transit of Sat in Cancer bothered me a lot. Questions on selfworth surfaced again. It is more of Venus sort this time with progressed venus on zero degrees of Cap. The influence of Sat on progressed Sun and Mer in Cap is definitely felt but handled with maturity - the kind of Saturn return. The focus of my natal chart is Venus in 4th house rapt conjunct Neptune and Vertex. Venus drama unfolded and continued right from May 2004, a time when transit Sat opposed progressed venus. I have been protecting my selfworth as a lover and all venus sort of influences.
I am curious to know what sort of changes Sat entry in Leo brings in. Focus on finances is already visualized with my both kids joining hostel in pursuit of education. I am prepared for that. What about Venus and professional change I have been looking for.
REALLY EAGERLY WAITING FOR SATURN ENTRY IN LEO.
Hope you have mastered the lessons of Saturn. Be cautious with the changes you are planning to effect. Sat in final degress of a Caner can really topple your world.
Thanks for initiating the thread.
Kris
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Post by Juliet on Jun 21, 2005 9:57:33 GMT
Oh, I'm so glad with your reactions! So it could be just be that Saturn in Cancer, and not per se its transit through the sign on the Des, cause I know for sure your 7th houses are somewhere else, Amoroso and Kim! Is it the nurturing bit that makes this transit so painful?? 'It' all started for me when Saturn entered Cancer, still in 6. Kris, I'm not planning any changes, and I stopped thinking Saturn lessons and I'm not going to start it again! My Virgo self can do without being a brave good girl for a while. For the rest of my life even! Just want to lay down as an octopus on the bottom of a endless ocean. Just an manner of speaking, but irl I'm recovering from a neglected concussion and all I need to do is sleep sleep sleep. Says my body and the doctor. Wow, playing a lion in Saturn in Leo-time! I can handle the transits through the other signs somehow, I always made something out of it. But Cancer... No! The doctor just told me that if it was possible, I would have to stop even thinking for 2 weeks! Avoid all stimuli to the brain. I'm kind of relieved that the responsibility was finally taken from me, I just could not make that step and call in sick... So I'm off!! Will be here from time to time.. Looooooooove, Juliet
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 22, 2005 0:15:08 GMT
Amoroso---What better symbolism for your Leo Midheaven than the role of Aslan! I'm so impressed. Congratulations! Juliet...I want you to rest totally! You know the computer and the internet is very stimulating! and the flicker factor or the screen can't be good. Rest and sleep and relax. We'll all be here waiting for you when you feel well again. Much love and warm wishes !!! Kim
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Post by jenstar on Jun 23, 2005 23:47:11 GMT
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Post by gemstar on Jun 24, 2005 0:45:29 GMT
Rest away Juliet...relax and sprawl out in your warm bed...feel better soon! RRRrrrooooooaar Amoroso..too cool! Congrats on first female to conquer that role-EXCELLENT! Thanks to all for your insight and remarks on the completion of the Saturn transit through Cancer. It has been on my n. Moon for quite a while (feels like forever)and seemed to force me into more solitude than usual...lately the emotions are kicking in hard so I will be thrilled to see it move on into Leo...now it all is making better sense!!
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Post by Amoroso on Jun 25, 2005 16:48:40 GMT
Dear All,
I just wanted to report in that in addition to roaring and teaching this year, I was just hired to be Artistic Director (with my own staff!!!!!) for a major project that will involve combining amateur and professional musicians, some of them legendary names in the business (including Ella Fitzgerald's bassist for 24 years!)--Svenskasfinx, thought you'd like that!-- in a celebration of community to help senior citizens from becoming isolated in senior communities.
This is definately a case of Saturn's sojourn into Leo, over Uranus/Pandora/Moon/MC and everything else I have in the 10th house!!!
Kim pointed out to me awhile ago that my natal Saturn, at 27 Scorpio, is the exact MC point in my Draconic chart. This is going to be a very interesting two years!
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jun 26, 2005 22:28:18 GMT
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Post by Kris on Jun 27, 2005 3:27:27 GMT
Dear Amoroso,
Congratulations. Hope the coming two years prove to be fruitful to you. It is very depressing for the last 4 days for my mind, heart and body. Saturn in final degrees of Cancer semi-square my natal moon, psyche, euphrosyne in Virgo and also square my natal Venus at the first degree of Scorpio. Just not able to concentrate on anything nor able to physical work with normal enthusiasm.
My efforts to change the job did not yield desired results. It is stalemate with other party not responding at all. Saturn is known to reward after subjecting the native to stern tests. I keep up the hope.
Your draconic MC in Scorpio means deep Karmic attachment to the worldly affairs connecting finances, alas scorpio. Where is your Mars. Is it connected to Saturn. That would be rewarding with Saturn entering the arena of natural artistic talents of the zodiac - Leo. And you are there. Congratulations once again.
regards Kris
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Post by Amoroso on Jun 27, 2005 17:57:49 GMT
Dear Kim,
What a beautiful photo! And guess what! Sappho and my maiden name asteroid are conjunct those two planets right now, also!! Kris,
It sounds like Saturn's sojourn through Cancer has been a particularly stressful time for you. Which house in your natal does Saturn transit through Leo? What are the aspects? You should yield some fruit soon.
Your analysis was very interesting. My natal Mars is retrograde in 4th house Pisces, but my progressed Mars is fully charged into 5th house Pisces. And in my natal, Mars is part of a grand cross that includes its sqaure to Saturn. But in tending the things I have needed to tend, and being diligent in so many ways, I think I am in a position to use this energy wisely.
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by Kris on Jun 28, 2005 6:38:47 GMT
Dear Amoroso,
You writeup is systematic and methodical. I hope your words: "You should yield some fruit soon" turn out to be gold.
My Asc is Cancer with its lord rapt conjunct psyche and euphrosyne in analytical Virgo 3rd house. That is a double punch. Cancer sensitivity is magnified in every respect with Moon squaring Sat who conjunct Sun in 5th almost on sixth cusp in Sag. It is very draining dealing with people with Karma rapt conjunct 7th cusp in Cap. Transit saturn enter my second house at leo 1.71 degrees on 30th July.
It is nice to hear that you are confident of handling Mars, Saturn square. I guess your Asc is Sag. Had it been Sco it would have been different story with Asc lord Mars in angle surely try to dominate Sat. The personality STRONGLY built-up by Sag optimism and lightness will not bow down to hassles. I personally feel so since I have Sun in Sag but for whom I would have gone mad long back.
Mars, the lord of your draconic MC squares natal Sat who is entering Leo. It is definitely rewarding but it can also keep you away from house hold affairs for the thrust and focus on aritistic endeavour is draconic by nature.
Take care.
regards Kris
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Post by Amoroso on Jul 3, 2005 21:41:43 GMT
Kris,
It is interesting that your ASC is Cancer--my husband's Draconic ASC is Cancer, and this other man's ASC is also Cancer. It does make for great sensitivity. My Venus is in 9th house Cancer.
My natal ASC is 29 Libra, but you are correct--my progressed ASC is Sag! Good call!
Thanks for all your insights, Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 16, 2005 23:08:25 GMT
Happy Saturn into Leo!!! How's everyone feeling with the wise old man at 0 degrees of the Lion? Let us know! Kim
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