Jupiter return- 2003 compared with 199

[svenskasfinx]

Hello!

I know we talked about this some time ago, but I have been thinking more and more about it as well as my solar returns/lunar returns (next one is on new year's day!)

I do see a pattern but I also see a lot of Pluto/Jupiter influence in the recent one..

On the previous return I won a large prize but also suffered a hurricane and a tramatic move or two..

this one I've been kind of sick, and yet I have in many ways become more healthy than I have been previously because I encreased by ablity to breathe..

MY QUESTION about these returns are: How far into the future do they influence? being it is Jupiter, is it really 12 years? If so at which point is the of that 12 years is it most strong...?

(I still have to look up if it went retrograde at any point in time in that degree)








Comments? Questions or anything you see will be useful to teach me to notice certain points.

thanks ahead of time,

Svenskasfinx

PS: heres my natal chart plus transits for September 7th 2003:

[Kim Falconer]

The return chart, any return chart, "lasts" until the next return.

Jupiter only crossed 2 Virgo 26 once in 2003, so you have the correct chart.

What is missing for interpretation is your natal chart. (I know it is posted somewhere in the threads, but let's put it up here for quick reference--perhaps the 3 charts in one page?)

The return Chart is a TRANSIT chart for the length of the returning planets orbit. It MUST be read in relationship to the natal. Also, I always use the NATAL birth place for the return, wherever you might be now. There are other methods, but that's what works best for me.

Can you post the three charts together (wheels only are enough) and we can take it from there

Warmly,
Kim

[svenskasfinx]

Thanks, its there with the transit from 2003..

it does emphisise the 6th house and Pluto, compared to the moment Jupter progresses to 2 degrees 26' where I live.

I can see where it can influence in that last time.. some really interesting things have happened. And while that

last one was within influence I did move to Sweden which does make me think Uranus/11th house/ Aquarious Rising. (plus Jupter in the 7th house of the chart from 1991)-- it gives me a feeling that there was to be a sudden change of things. It reminds me also that Jupter is my 7th house ruler and how I met my husband, via the internet. But hindsite is 20-20 without corrective lenses !

8th house things seem to pop into my mind when dealing with this newer transit/return..

Thanks for your help and good nature!

Svenskasfinx

[Kim Falconer]

Hello Svenskasfinx,

May I have permission to use your chart on my “Return Charts Step by Step” article to give an example of the Jupiter return? (You’ll see how I read it, at least)

www.nrg.com.au/~d-falcon/Returns.htm

If so, I’ll post comments here too, as I go.

Just give me a few days to get back to it. I want to post something on the Tsunami chart first.

If you’d rather keep it less “public” that is fine too. Just let me know. It can stay right here in the forum if you prefer!

Feel better?

Warmly,
Kim

[svenskasfinx]

Hej Kim!

I give you full permission..

The way I see it if I post something its sort of public property, so you can use it.

I've obviously have no problem posting personal information, (aside from full name, address, telephone number ect) on the sites I choose. I've also been very public via dream interpretations, reading and posting a journal (also very public) of my dreams.

A chart wouldn't be too personal and if it helps you, me and others to learn things, all the better!

I'm getting over the flu, but my husband is in denial that he is even sick, he's got the "slower" verson.. while it just ripped through me..Feeling much better now though, Thanks.

Take care

Dorian

[svenskasfinx]

I thought I'd repost the Jupiter return from 2003 with the Natal birth time and put it together with my Solar return chart for this year.

I do this because both have Eros at 0 degrees Scorpio. The Jupiter Return has Uranus at 0 degrees Piscies (sounds kind of shocking although a trine!) Not show is Icarus at 1 degree Capricorn (resting in my natal 7th house activating as the midpoint between the two)


Jupiter return with Eros now in the first house in aspect to Uranus in the 5th.. both at 0 degrees.



Solar Return 2005-6..with an emphisis on Dionysus conjunct Sun..

Hope this is interesting, as far as the on going search to find out what exactly could Eros at 0 degrees Scorpio could mean ( I am having an Eros return on the 10th of June too!)...

Whoah!


svenskasfinx

P.S. Another reason 0 degrees Scorpio may be "important" is because the Eros/Psyche Midpoint is exactly 1 degree 33 minutes Scorpio. (Should I be looking for some help?)

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Svenskasfinx,

Thanks for posting these returns. I realize I had plans to do a "how-to-Jupiter-return" in my "returns" page using this as an example. Let's hope I get to it before your NEXT Jupiter return!

I like the way the natal 5th house comes to the foreground of your Jupiter return, and your natal Ascendant is in the Jupiter return 9th.

This certainly bodes well for creative expression, children, books, publishing, higher education, travel and spiritual pursuits!

Your upcoming solar return is very strong with the natal Ascendant repeated in the SR Ascendant--always important years.

And that repeated position of Eros is very unique, again waking up the 5th house. Watch for transits to that point, and people with personal planets at 0 Scorpio or Taurus. That may offer some hints as to how this area of your chart will be activated.

I do hope I can find time to go into these charts in more depth!

Warmly,
Kim

[svenskasfinx]

Yes Kim I think so--

I just took a look at the solar return's MC ruler Uranus still in my 10th house and the 10th house of the Solar Return.. Neptune is also there.. It does seem to say "Publishing"..

Started doing some work on how I'm going to manage my time.. I get the feeling things will really start moving THIS year.. what do you think?

I'm frightened of the other things happening in the 5th though..some people talk about success sometimes being worse than failure. Jupiter doesn't exactly keep people leval headed either

that aside, thank you for having a look! I know you and I are both really busy people.. but we do love astrology

with best wishes,

svenskasfinx