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Post by Juliet on Feb 1, 2007 20:58:20 GMT
The relationship between my bf and me started when the Sun transited opposite the composite Sun at 16 deg of Can, or/and was conjunct the Davison Composite Sun at 16 deg of Cap. The date of the Davison is the 7th of January 1959, early morning, and 'we' started at the 7th of January 2007 in the early morning.
Any of you any similar experiences?? Would love to hear so! What would be the difference between an activated composite Sun and f.i. an activated comp Venus or Moon??? Oh, just noticed that transiting Venus was on comp Venus as well. Blessings, Juliet
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Post by tom on Feb 1, 2007 23:11:01 GMT
i met my girlfriend when our progressed venus hit our north node/DSC.
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Post by primamateria on Feb 9, 2007 4:38:17 GMT
Juliet! been so long eh?
C and I met when the sun passed over our composite MC...OMG Venus was transiting composite Saturn - exactly!- (where have I seen that before!!!!!) and Mars was three degrees approaching our composite Sun... etc.. etc...!
I never noticed before
pm
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Post by primamateria on Feb 10, 2007 6:21:47 GMT
Hi again Juliet... I've just had a peek at the first meeting chart for C and I.... it also has moon conjunct uranus at 14 pisces - which was the exact degree of my progressed natal moon on that day... C has Moon Conjunct Uranus in his natal chart (conjunct my Jupiter in Virgo)... thats a bit spooky really!
Have you done a first meeting chart for you and R?
love, pm
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Post by Juliet on Feb 11, 2007 18:09:04 GMT
Not yet, will do so soon, but so busy with my new job and that sweet guy!
I was never a keen believer in the composite, but it is incredible how tangible it shows the energy of a relationship, doesn't it?? Uranus is close to that 14 Pis point again now, what do you believe will happen? Are you feeling something?? Mars was on our Composite Sun the day before yesterday and we committed a step further. He met my son and his gf.
I feel so flabbergasted at times, I made a list in December and he feels like the flesh and blood list-guy! Love, Juliet
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Post by Juliet on Feb 11, 2007 18:13:53 GMT
Oh, this is weird, I just happened to see my Draconic return. I made it ages ago for a post on this forum. It was the 18th of January, and that was the night before R 'officially' asked me to be his girlfriend. That 18th I told him I'd fallen in love with him, a huge step which made me cry and feel helpless.
Wow
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Post by primamateria on Feb 12, 2007 3:55:10 GMT
dear Juliet... I'm so happy to read that you're busy and in love!
I've come to the conclusion that the astrology between C and I seriously sucks, and I wish I'd never met him... oh, ok... I'm being a brat - but seriously that Saturn-Venus thing is a huge downer... and I'm beginning to see how all the Neptune between us has meant I've decieved myself again and again...
damn I wish pluto would get the hell outta my seventh house!
pm xx
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Post by Juliet on Feb 12, 2007 7:42:40 GMT
Oh dear Prima, Sorry to read that! Is it the astrology between you? Pluto in my seventh too! We have a Venus Saturn square AND an exact inconjunct in the house, and yesterday I checked the synastry for the relationships of my kids and they also have mutual Saturn-Venus hard aspects with bf and gf! But Moon-Venus stuff too, and Venus-Mercury stuff. And Mercury-Jupiter stuff. Good communication makes up for a lot!
R is very committed, but still I suffer from huge fears daily, fears of losing him, fears he does not exist any longer (may sound strange, but very Pluto in 7, I guess) . When I get frightened, I become slightly dissociated from any feeling towards him.
Luckily I've discovered that's just the moment to listen to music, take a hot bath, take a walk, feel my heart chakra. And since he is my loyal friend, and frightened of losing me too, we call every day before going to sleep, and then I fall asleep with a huge smile on my face. Also, we've made a deal to be honest and to express whatever is on our mind that could affect the relationship.
The fears are starting to abate somewhat! Becoming more manageable. And I'm getting kind of used to a man in my life! I love it!
Love, Juliet
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Post by primamateria on Feb 12, 2007 23:04:52 GMT
juliet... its great that you two have such a rapport and can be mutually supportive... pluto-fear is so destructive but it sounds like you're tapping into those inner 'riches' pluto is also good for...(did you know that the word pluto, etymologically, actually means 'riches'?) anyway, I'm very confused about the C situation, and tired - I am constantly feeling the burden of his Saturn and should not have to while I'm pregnant... oh that solar return looming with Saturn on the Ascendant and Neptune on the Descendant - I can feel that too. I am in danger of developing serious depression if something doesn't change... not good for me, the baby, or my girls. Venus in Aries is in exile isn't she? HIs Saturn on her really feels like prison... and in the tenth - so publicly shamed... I'm wearing a scarlett letter alright... because he won't stand by me. today I'll tell him what I want, and that if he can't give me any of it then the fairest thing to do is for him to stay away.... until I recover, or he can do things differently. but I'm so happy for you that you have the love you asked for pm
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Post by primamateria on Feb 13, 2007 1:43:00 GMT
on the other hand...
I'm being challenged to question and then re-question every belief and ideal I have about love and relationships.... I'm learning to rely on my own strength and to not rely on anyone to show me my 'beauty' (my Venus)... this is making me grow up...
and I have to remember not to drift off into fantasies about the way I want things to be, the way things 'should be'... to be here and now and to be grateful for the good things I have... I have already 'asked' for what I desire...so now I have to hold on and allow the miracle to occur...
I don't know if that is astrology... transits, progressions or just the work I've been doing on myself finally manifesting some results.
still tired, but must be getting stronger!
pm xx
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Post by Juliet on Feb 13, 2007 7:44:20 GMT
Dear Prima, That might just be the challenge, yes. My initial reaction to any fear of abandonment is to look for confirmation with him! But it does not do anything for me, feels kind of empty... that has become very clear.
And then, when I've found it within myself, I can turn to him again and love and state any needs in a non manipulative way. First time in my life.
More later! Hang on, dear Prima! Juliet
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Post by searose on Feb 13, 2007 16:12:09 GMT
dear primaveria, maybe since you are pregnant your hormones could be causing your depression . i think you should concentrate on you and your baby. you are truly blessed and i'm so sorry you aren't getting the support you need right now.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 13, 2007 21:53:56 GMT
Hi Prima, Juliet and Searose,
I have such mixed feelings reading this thread...I'm elated for Juliet and her new love relationship. It's exhilarating to consider the astrology and synchronicity of it all--I love the romance! It really makes me believe in new possibilities!
Prima, I'm thrilled for you that you are having a baby--that also sends me into feeling of rapture and joy. I only had that experience once in my life and I look back on it as one of the best--carrying him, the birth, breastfeeding--all so wonderful, intense and impressing. I also feel compassion that you are not experiencing the relationship with the father in the way that you want to. I was a single mother so I'm not innocent there!
Saturn Venus. Evangeline Adams said it was the sign of 'Eternal Friendship'. Actually, my son's father had Venus in Sc on my Saturn. I look back and I think, yes, we were/are eternal friends...just not a couple. I can see the difference now but at the time? No way!
How can you change the quality of that Ve/Sa synastry?
Can you make a list of the top few things that you really love about C? Just write out, without judgement, a few things (even if there is only a couple and you have to wrack your brain to find them at this point in time) that make you smile when you are with him. If you can focus on those things only, your energy will 'feed' Venus with thoughts of love and joy and you will begin to experience him in those ways.
Venus is what we love-Saturn makes things 'real'. You can work with these concepts in one way, and that is through Mercury. Mercury, the messenger, is KEY and with the Rx coming, it’s perfect timing to learn this.
My very first Astrology teacher, Isabel Hickey, taught that 'Energy follows thought'. What you think about (and write about and focus on and dwell on) is what you experience. The planets help us to learn how to focus our Mercury to attract the energies we want to experience. For example, the more you think about what a jerk he's being, the more you will experience him as a jerk. Energy follows thought.
I'm not saying that he's really this great guy and you are causing him to let you down with your thoughts. It's not that at all. I am saying that there are ways of experiencing life that bring us all sorts of random pain and heart ache and discomfort, and there are ways to experience life that bring us joy.
Energy follows thought.
The energies of the planets can be experienced in an infinite numbers of possibilities.
If you change your thoughts, you will attract new possibilities.
Saturn Venus (and Pluto in the 7th for that matter) are not aspects or synastry contacts designed to torture you. Venus and Saturn can be as fine and wonderful as long aged red wine, or a rose garden at the edge of a mountain cliff or a degree in counselling. Do you see what I mean? You can combine these energies in beautiful ways. You awaken something in each other, yes, but you can create how that 'something' expresses by changing your mind.
If you want to talk more about this, and how to turn your mind around, email me. I'm here to help if I can.
Please take care!
Warmly, Kim
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