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Post by cpolk on Jan 31, 2007 21:46:08 GMT
...It's a phrase I hear used fairly often in listening to people talk about their romantic partners or about those people who they're attracted to but not involved with. I was wondering what sort of signs there would be in the charts that would give a clue about what would make someone "perfect."
I wonder if there's a different set of aspects of energy for those unrequited "perfect" people - the ones that don't get involved in a more intimate relationship - to the ones who are perceived as "perfect" after that more intimate relationship happens.
Is it always going to be something the astrologer finds in the synastry, or can it be a quality carried in the natal chart alone? is it going to be a single "magic bullet" aspect or an overall pattern? what planets/points/asteroids would call up this energy or perception? what moves a person to put another on a pedestal?
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Post by tom on Feb 1, 2007 23:15:05 GMT
hi juliet,
you could see signs in charts of why people gel together or work together, but you can't tell from a chart that people will. there's free will at play, and aspects can only speak to potentials.
as to someone's perception that the other is perfect, that could be a lot of things. you could go around the wheel and point out what each sign would be looking for, and then apply that to what the Moon needs, what Mars and Venus want, etc., and you'd be left with a lot of data that, again, indicate potentials.
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Post by Juliet on Feb 2, 2007 7:42:09 GMT
Hi Athena,
What are your own feelings/thoughts about 'perfect'?
Perfect can mean so many different things to so many different people...
For me as a Virgo 'the perfection' (which I do not believe in at all!) is in the flaws, my Libra Venus needs a lot of equality and all my 8 house stuff needs sexual and intimate intensity, whereas my Mars/Merc conjunction needs a lot of verbal communication for someone to feel right.
My conscious self (a work in progress) tries to live Kim's adagium 'No assumptions and no expectations'. And after five hard, instructive years I choose mutual commitment.
I would not ever use the word or concept perfect to describe a guy and would think it is a whole lot easier to use that word when love is unrequited. I mean, I don't need more then one hour with someone to tell he is just another human, albeit a very sweet, appealing and attractive one!
My best, Juliet (very much in love!)
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Post by cpolk on Feb 3, 2007 4:52:34 GMT
Hi Juliet;
My personal reaction to the word is an automatic rejection of it. It's one I've had levelled at me fairly often, and my immediate response is "no, I'm not," but that doesn't seem to matter. I can point out all sorts of flaws and foibles and faults and it doesn't matter and oh, I tear my hair at this...
because I keep thinking that it's all illusion, you know? and that when the dis-illusionment comes, it's going to be this terrible let down. So I wonder if there's something to it astrologically.
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Post by Juliet on Feb 3, 2007 15:32:05 GMT
So you are seen as the perfect person by others? Well, what do you think about that astrological configuation?
I have my Moon pretty close to the AC, 30 min or something, and am perceived as emotionally expressive, while I can féél reserved. In the past I really needed that perception of others, you know, since I was pretty closed of to myself. Now I still get the same comments, but am not longer bothered by their expectations.
Do you communicate your feelings on this perfection thing?
Juliet
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Post by cpolk on Feb 3, 2007 16:46:15 GMT
I deny it right away, of course. usually with no one is perfect, but especially not me.
and I'm not sure what it would be. I mean, I don't have a strongly aspected neptune. all I have is the sextile to pluto that everyone has anyway. venus squares my ascendant.
I know that pluto's position, while not obviously aspected, is simmeringly powerful in my chart. I have a stellium in early libra with mercury, uranus, and the sun (and i have recently discovered, Adonis) and it's right on the midpoint for pluto/jupiter. all of that fifth house. then there's all the dynamic with that stellium being in a t-square with 8th house capricorn mars at the apex and 11th house aries chiron opposing...
and mars is in a grand trine with saturn in 12th house taurus and venus in 5th house virgo. touch one, you touch it all in my chart. the machine is very, very connected.
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