Venus conjunct Saturn in Synastry

[darkstar]

Hi there. I browsed through some of the old topics, but couldn't find much on Venus-Saturn, so forgive me if this subject has been discussed.

Recently I met a guy who I share some interesting synastry with. He and I work for the same company and I just started about 2 weeks ago. He is not generally my 'type' and I don't consider him that attractive (not to be mean; he is kind of 'cute' I guess), but there is this extremely strong energy between us that is almost overwhelming.

his Venus is conjunct my Saturn 4'
his Venus is conjunct my South Node 1'
his Mars is square my Venus 5'
my Mars is trine his Venus 7'
his Saturn is square my Sun 1'
his Eros is square my Venus/Mars 4'

I am very attracted to him, but at the same time I am TERRIFIED. I don't know, I'm not usually like this around guys. Although I can be a bit shy, I know how to joke around and flirt with guys I'm interested in. But this guy, I just can't be comfortable or even talk around him. It's like I completely freeze. I don't know if its the Venus-Saturn conjunction, or his Saturn square my Sun.

But its funny, because since day one, I have completely given him the cold shoulder. I don't even acknowledge him, although I notice him checking me out all the time. He's tried to be friendly with me, (although at first he seemed a bit shy too, but I think he realized that he's gonna have to push really hard.) One day he shouted at me 'Hey how's it going!', and I pretended not to hear him! (how rude of me!) I don't want to treat him so coldly, but I feel as if I can't do anything else. He scares the sh*t out of me!

has anyone else had any experience with a Venus-Saturn contact in synastry? have you had any similar feelings?

[3rdhousenorth]

Hi Darkstar,

My understanding of Venus-Saturn is that it's very good for marriage because it's binding. It gives confidence esp. to the Saturn person, though the Saturn person has to watch out for being critical or cold to the Venus person. But the key thing is that it takes awhile to overcome the initial feelings of fear that Saturn generates and that can affect both people early on. After that is overcome with time (Saturn), it can be a really comfortable bond because Venus is a balm to Saturn fears. Does this make sense?

Also, Venus on the South Node gives a feeling of comfort as if you've known each other before.

The Venus-Mars contacts are creating strong attraction, but the Saturn stuff is creating fear on both sides - that's all a very magnetic dynamic! Falling in love is said to be enhanced by the excitement generated by fear (going thru something frightening together, for example) so the heightened senses here may be enhancing the attraction.

Hey, you've been there 2 weeks - how did you get his birth info so soon?!

3HN

[Amoroso]

Dear Dark Star,

Kim often quotes Isabel Hickey when describing Venus-Saturn:

"the sign of Eternal freindship."

I have an exact Saturn-Venus square with my husband, and Saturn-Venus conjunction with C. And with C, my Saturn is the midpoint between his Venus and his Uranus.

What books do not emphasize is how important it is to take a look at what each planet brings to the syanstry. For example, my Saturn in Scorpio with all its aspects and the houses it influences brings a certain energy to my husband's Venus in 9th Aquarius. Look at the aspects your planets make in your own chart, to find out what qualities it brings to the planets in the other's chart.

My husband's Venus also carries with it stong aspects from his Moon, his own Saturn/Mars conjunction, Pluto and Vesta. Our Saturn-Venus square will feel familiar to him because of his own Saturn-Venus connection, etc.

I think it is true that, especially in the first ten years or so of our relationship, I felt inferior to him and still am often subdued by his presence. Both those are typical Saturn reactions. But if I let him, he does make me laugh!

But my Saturn in his fifth house has also given form, direction and been a "vessel"--a Saturn-Vesta image if there ever was one-- for his own Venus as well as his fifth house of creativity, romance and children.

I guess my point is, don't be satisified with things you read in books--start with those descriptions as a base for developing an understanding of the rich language of astology, which is based on the huge language of METAPHOR. Then you can develop a much wider view of what is actually happening with another person.

Just my point of view,
Blessings,
Amoroso

[primamateria]

hi there,

I have an exact Saturn-Venus conjunction with the man I'm involved with - in Aries, involving my tenth house venus and in his fifth house Saturn.

I met him in May - what I thought was going to be a fun fling (we also BOTH have a Mars in Sag conjunction with 'the great attractor' which happens to trine that Venus Saturn contact) and we are still involved - although we are yet to describe exactly what that involvement IS! My 11th house 0 Taurus Saturn is also on his late ARies North Node, and we have a whole other bunch of contacts to boot. We are a bit of a complicated situation.

He does scare me a lot - and can at times be very distant and cold. I joked to him one day that he 'sat on my venus' - and that is kind of what it feels like sometimes - as though he 'stops' my often petulant , child-like head-strong Venus from having her way. At times I feel completely disempowered - Venus in ARies needs to feel 'potent' in relationships.

On the other hand - I give his fifth house Saturn an opportunity - I have children and he doesn't - so he is getting something out of this which does appear to be solidifying parts of himself that I believe may have been previously untouched.

Who knows how much time he and I have to explore this - sometimes the fear - and I must say that Saturn isn't all there is to this fear - he has a Scorpio Mercury and I have Mercury trine both our Pluto's so its possible that there is too much unsaid between us - well that fear doesn't seem to be going away any time soon.

but - it is an opportunity to learn about love-fear - and that is a very precious thing.

Joy!
pm

[darkstar]

hey there. thank you all for your replies.

LOL. I thought someone was going to ask that, about how I found out about his birtdate! lol. It's actually weird. I was thinking one night, 'boy I would like to know his chart so I could figure out what the heck is going on!', and the next day he announced to everyone that his birthday was in 2 weeks on October 14 and he's turning 22. so thats how I found out.

I'm starting to think that maybe nothing may come out of this, because like you said 3rdhousenorth, with Saturn you need time to get past the initial fear and reluctance. but I am only a Temp at this company and will only be there for another 1-2 weeks, and I don't see things moving forward. It's like we're both fascinated with eachother, but at the same time each of us is afraid to make any kind of move. I don't know. It's like we don't have enough time.

thanks again for your input!

[darkstar]

hey primamateria. thats funny, my saturn also sits on his south node, although I also have that in my natal chart. a fun fling lol. I know, its funny because I'm not really looking for anything serious right now. I'm working full time and going to school full time and don't really have the desire to be in a serious relationship at the moment. yet all of a sudden, this guy pops up out of nowhere. geez. and I think we both kind of realize, maybe unconsciously, that this may be a potentially serious and intense relationship and are scared and reluctant. I don't know, I don't want to start psychoanalysing lol.

[primamateria]

dear Darkstar - head for the hills honey! No, seriously this could be something really important for you...
something I've been doing is asking 'what does Saturn have to teach my Venus?' (in my case I need to grow her up!) Perhaps this is something you could do via meditation or contemplation.

joy~! pm

[darkstar]

well, if anyone cares lol, nothing came of it. I figured. It was just way too awkward between us. There was this amazing attraction, but we couldn't really engage in conversation or warm up to eachother. We both would freeze up and not know what to say. We talked maybe a total of 2 times for the 3 1/2 weeks I was there. Saturn definately was restricting things that's for sure. Things were moving waaaay too slow, and like I said before, we didn't have enough time. oh well.