Composite Pluto conjunct Natal Saturn!

[nikkicantu]

This guy I'm stuck on (the one on a sub in the navy) has his natal Saturn at 3 degrees Scorpio, and our composite Pluto is at 3 degrees Scorpio as well. What does that mean? In synastry we also have mutual Venus trine Saturns...I'M SCARED!

[Amoroso]

Hi Nikkicantu,

Kim would say that there is no such thing as a "bad" aspect. It is all energy to either use or misuse. She is part of a small, but growing, number of responsible astrologers who are trying to educate the rest of us on language bias, and how to interpret things for better self-understanding.

The longer I study astrology, the more I realize that cookie-cutter definitions can be misleading and harmful, because they are so very limiting.

Any natal point that falls on a composite point shows how the relationship can affect that individual, given time. His Saturn on your composite Pluto in Scorpio says that he may take your relationship's capacity for healing and transformation very seriously, or it may seriously effect him. A relationship's capacity for healing and transformation can often be difficult, but it is where we can find gold if we hang in there and work things out, or it can be where we, as a couple, can create positive change in our world. Remember to include the aspects to Pluto in your composite and to Saturn in his natal, all of which tell part of the story.

The composite is an entity by itself, it is the energy that is born of your relationship and exists by itself. We all have a composite with everyone on the planet, but it comes alive only with time. I would think the Saturn contacts do take time to unfold.

Kim cites Evangeline Adams, an astrologer from the early part of this century, as saying that Saturn/Venus is the sign of "eternal friendship." I have a Saturn-Venus conjunction in syanstry with someone and I do think that is an accurate statement. The trine shows great affection between one's serious, hard-working, cautious or even repressive side--and you should read the thread we have on Saturn to get a more complete picture of his symbolism--and the other's capacity for relatedness , beauty and values (Venus.) It really is a lovely combination.

I have natal Saturn in Scorpio which in it's most ineffective state has made me controlling and intense. But that is just an ineffective use of an incredibly magnetic and physically strong energy. See? So much depends on where one is in Life's journey.

Hope this helps!

Blessings,
Amoroso

[nikkicantu]

thanks a bunch!

[moondance7]

My composite with an ex has sun,pluto,venus,saturn all conjunct each of our natal saturn and pluto. What do you think of that, A?

[Amoroso]

Well, given that I am currently under a transit of Saturn to natal Pluto, square natal Saturn, I would describe that energy as incredibly powerful, growing as you spend time together. There's both the capacity for immense heights, seriousness, passion, and equally as much energy for destruction, manipulation and a huge depressing of spirits. It would reveal immense desires and fears in both of you.

I think both people would have to be aware of these dynamics, and be ready to deal with them. I would imagine it would not be easy, but so well worth it if the dynamics of the relationship could be met with awareness and wisdom. Remember the composite is a map of the energy of the relationship.

I liken the composite to a child born of a union--a composite is a look at the energy born between you when you have managed to form some sort of union. If you want a map of the relationship in more concrete terms, look at the Davison composite. You can select that on Astro.com and compare it to the "energy" of the composite. The Davison is a combination of actual birth times rather than midpoints.

Boy have I spent way too mcuh time on the forum today. Gotta go!
Amoroso

[moondance7]

Thanks, A., I think you're absolutely right. Those are the placements in the composite of me and my "obsession", the x I can't move on from. Figures,huh?