venus conj saturn

[Juliet]

Hi to all!

In both my progressed and the solar return there's a seperating conjunction Venus Saturn. In the progressed it's in Sag and on cusp 9, in the SR almost on the as and in Cancer. I've not been in stable relationship for 4,5 years now after a 22 year long relationship with the father of my kids, but feel the need quite strongly to be in a conventional r again. I feel everything strong these days!!
Does this feeling fit the aspect??
Saturn has just crossed my natal DC in Cancer by one degree...
Thanks for any input,
Juliet

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Juliet!

I do think this double Venus/Saturn is significant. Triple really, with Saturn transiting Venus’ domain in the 7th!
Alan Leo (pretty much the father of modern astrology) said, “…in its good effect, (Venus/Saturn) causes faithfulness and very binding attachments. Saturn transiting the 7th will strengthen conjugal ties, give faithful adherence to vows and contracts, and bind closer the ties that unite and cement true unions.”<br>
He spoke in very “black and white” “good/bad” terms, yet there is a core feeling there that Saturn builds form and structure wherever it touches, and in this case, it is your socially significant relationships.

When Saturn crossed my Venus at 0 Cancer, my son and daughter-in-law had their misfortune and moved in with me (for 9 months!). As you know, they have just moved out, leaving me with a much deeper understanding of my own sense of relationship. It certainly brought up a lot of issues around marriage and commitment for me who otherwise (in my “lone wolf state”) would not have experienced!

I would say, get ready for commitment. It’s on the way!

Does anyone else have any input on Saturn transiting Venus and/or the 7th house? How else might this symbolism manifest?

Warmly,
Kim

[tara]

Hi Juliet!

I have some input on saturn transiting venus, and soon I will be experiencing saturn transiting my DC at 18' cancer.

I remember noticing saturn approching my natal venus (gemini 5th house) awhile ago and thinking, "Oh no, here we go, this should be fun."

To make matters worse, old saturn decided to go retrograde as it got a degree away from conjuncting my venus as if to say, "We're not through yet, I'll be back."
All I could think was, I can't wait 'til this long transit is over.

At the time, I remember feeling really lonely, and wanting to be in a relationship so bad. Which was in quite a contrast to my usual independent self, who loved being alone. And although I had plenty of people interested, I was not interested in them. I was looking for that "perfect person" and no one seemed to fit. I felt I was being denied (saturn) a true love (venus).
It was a lonely, depressing time, much of which was spent reading books on soulmates, and attracting the right people into my life. I thought maybe, I'm desined to be alone. (saturn in 7th - conj. mars to boot!)

But, something funny happened towards the end of the transit. One day I realized that I had a very different, yet clear view of what I wanted and needed out of a partnership. I felt I had gained alot of wisdom somehow. About myself, my strengths and weaknesses in relationships, and what I wanted in future ones.

It's hard to explain exactly how I felt, but I had a definte knowing that things had changed, and I had clearer, healthier definition of partnership. I now see that transit as a lifesaver. I was being denied what I thought I wanted, because I wasn't ready. I still had lessons to learn.

I looked back on past relationships and saw them in a different light. My views on real love had changed - matured.

I unknowingly used that time as a learning experience, and found as I emerged, I felt I had graduated.

........from the school of Saturn!
I can almost hear old Saturn saying, "Um, hold on there, we're not through yet!"

This I'm sure of.

But, I now don't dread the thought of a saturn transit the way I used to. I know that although they can be tough, you always come out wiser than before. (listen to me, I have'nt even had my first saturn return, and I think I know everything!) ;D

Well Juliet, I hope I haven't bored you, and as a fellow cap. rising, I think saturn has many lessons for us, but in the end it's all worth it.

I just got the new revised edition of "Skymates" by Jodie and Steven Forrest, if you don't have it it's really worth picking up. In it, it says of saturn in the 7th:
"Saturn is about deep commitment, something of which you are quite capable. It also implies a serious, devoted, sober and honorable attitude toward intimate relationships, and need for a partner who is equally reliable and committed."

Hope this helped!

tara

[Juliet]

Hi Kim and Tara,
Thanks for sharing your experiences!!
I recognize a lot in the processes you both went through during Venus-Saturn transits.

The lone wolf state, Kim, that one I know. And I've actually been 'studying' and 'interrogating' people with healthy relationships the past few years, which I have luckily met quite a lot of this period. The fine side of Saturn manifests itself there, structure and commitment, realism... And real personal space instead of secret hope for symbiosis. But also putting the realtionship above individual fears when needed.

And Tara, you did not bore me one bit!
You are an earthy type as well. I am a Virgo Sun, Cap moon and As.

I bought Skymates two years ago, in the hope it would save me. I very much like it's style!

I do not know exactly what I seek in a relationship, like you do, Tara. I just have a strong feeling a. that any feeling of crisis has left and b. hat my present state of hanging on militantly to being safely alone stunts my growth right now... Starting therapy next week to work on that. With realistic expectations.

Thanks again, Juliet

[kiyomi]

hi,
i have a saturn in the 7th house natally and i feel the effect of this saturn there very strong all the time.

I currenlty have a transiting Saturn in the 7th house as well(but now knocking at the door of the 8th house), and i realized that those past 2-3 years has been a kind of test for me and my partner as some problems have arised that we were forced to make some adjustments and reached a mutal agreement. i don't think it means that all the problems will have finished though, as life will alwasys bring some "works" to do..

To make a commitment, i think it takes a lot of work and patience but i think it is worth doing so as it can bring a sense of wholeness, and most importantly, that i and my partner are making some efforts whatever obstacles may arise and try to face up to them squarely and solve the problems together.

I hope this hepls.

Kiyomi