Davison Realtionship Charts vs. Composite Charts

[BodaciousBabe]

Dear Kim et all,

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the use of the Davison Relationship chart vs. the composite chart in taking a look at the entity of a relationship?

I read somewhere recently that unless a relationship is a primary steady involvement, the composite really doesn't apply as effectively as this Davison chart.

Thanks,
BodaciousBabe

[Kim Falconer]

Hello BB,

This is an interesting question.

You said:

“I read somewhere recently that unless a relationship is a primary steady involvement, the composite really doesn't apply as effectively as this Davison chart.”<br>
My immediate response is “That is not my experience.”<br>
I use the midpoint method of chart comparison where Davison goes for and actual midpoint in time and space. I am not saying his way is invalid at all. There are those who use it extensively and insightfully.

I simply prefer the midpoint chart method. It works consistently for me. I certainly don’t think someone has to be a “primary steady involvement” for it to activate.

For example:

Realise, for a moment, that we all have a composite chart with everyone alive now, or who has ever lived or will ever live! The premise is, you have to connect in some way to activate the composite or synastry chart!

All you have to do is connect.

A few years ago I researched the life and chart of Amelia Earhart. She was the famous female aviator who disappeared mysteriously while circumnavigating the globe decades ago.

By researching this woman’s life, I connected with her. Our composite (midpoint method) was activated.

Some of the highlights of the composite include:

Sun exactly conjunct the Ascendant—the sign of an important relationship, one that burst out into the world like a sunrise! Well, her example is in my “Vital Signs” book, the astrology of well-being. When published, we will both be “bursting” out into the world.

By synastry, our Suns are exactly sextile-a sign of common goals and ambitions.

Our composite moon in Aries is exactly conjunct Fortuna in the 10th, again a feeling of empathy with the public, common goals and aspirations.

Composite Mercury conjunct Comp Pluto in the first—well, I was researching her life, and death and it brought up a lot for me on the subject. My father actually died as I wrote the final chapter.

With Mars exactly conjunct Saturn in the 5th, the creative drive of “our relationship” has some major blocks…these planets are in Scorpio and I must point out that Amelia is long dead and the flow of energy, Mars, has some limits (Saturn). It’s “one-way”, as far as I can tell.

Composite Uranus on the IC suggests that the relationship wakes up something buried, something from the past, and the exact semi-sextile to Neptune says it’s more than a little mysterious.

I re-wrote and re-questioned the puzzling events around her disappearance. Our composite shows a relationship that “Blasts open the hidden past.”<br>
(I didn’t solve the mystery, by the way…so don’t get too excited!)

My point with this unusual case study is that you do not have to be in a deeply, mutually, long-term and primary relationship to activate a composite. You simple have to connect, as I did with Amelia.

Does anyone out there use Davison charts? I’d like to hear more about direct experience with them.

Thanks BB, for the question. I spent a fair bit of time looking at your midpoint comp for the reading. I’ll look into the Davison for contrast if you have a question there. Perhaps after you hear the tape.

Warmly,
Kim

[BodaciousBabe]

Dear Kim,

Thank you for sharing your insights on the composite chart. Your research into Earhart is really interesting. Following through with that kind of interest can become an underground stream which feeds the larger stream, as Caroline Casey says in "Making the Gods Work for You." And there I go with the water images again.

I am inclined to trust your experience with these two kinds of charts. Besides, when I look at both styles, the composite "feels" more like the relationship. It's just a question I've had for some time.

Several years ago, when I was frantic with outside activity in my work and co-caring for our two young children, I became obsessed with learning about octopuses--or, more correctly, octopi. I wanted to become one. (Hide in a cave underwater--there it is again.) I began researching them late at night and started collecting them off e-Bay. My kids loved all the octopus junk.--salt and pepper shakers, hats, puppets, bells, even a toothbrush holder and toilet paper roll holder. To this day I have a binder full of information, photos, poetry, etc. that I turn to when I am feeling too visible.

Such an odd combination in a performer/teacher, but I suspect not uncommon.

Bodaciousbabe

[chrissymgreen]

dear kim/bodacious babe,

i am fascinated by amelia earhart. kim, did you say your book was available? im guessing itll be on your website. im going to look.

bodacious babe, i have done both a composite and a davison, in addition to what bob marks calls a 'marks chart' - a space/time composite generated using the davison (i had to do some finagling, but i figured out how, and if youre interested, ill tell ya how) & each of our natal charts, with my virgo friend. many of the sign placements were the same save for a couple (jupiter & uranus to be exact), but the houses totally changed because the ascendant was different. but let me say this - in our composite the ascendant is libra (ruled by venus) and in the davison the ascendant is taurus (ruled by venus). have you done both charts for you and your friend and did you notice any similarities like this?

i really havent analyzed both charts in detail. i will say the composite feels more comfortable to me. it seems to describe things accurately, with a 3rd house sun (we talk ALL the time), a 5th house moon (emotional affection and love are present), with the rest of the planets falling into the 2nd, 3rd, 9th and 12th houses. considering what signs all the houses in the composite are linked to, this feels right with how the relationship appears to be presenting itself. with the davison, it gets a bit more exciting (lots of 8th and 7th, 11th & 5th), but im not sure it feels right. im less comfortable with the interpretation of this chart, so im with kim, i think the composite works very well for me.

if i get a book on davison charts any time soon and find out anything more, ill let you know what i find out.




-chrissy

[Kim Falconer]

Hello BB,

That is very interesting about your fascination and study of octopi.

I just had a quick look at your Davison comp…wow. I can see why you are curious. There is one incredibly intense stellium in the 7th and 8th. It is far more focused a chart pattern than the midpoint comp.

They really tell different stories. I can see why you would be curious about the two. After you listen to the reading, we can talk about these differences. Perhaps we will both learn something about Davison charts!

Hi Chrissy,

My only publication available right now is Astrology & Aptitude, a training manual on how to become what you are meant to be. My examples there are Hedy Lemar and Ernest Hemingway.

Amelia Earhart is in my Vital Signs book That manuscript is stilling on a desk somewhere at Red Wheel Weiser’s. They say it is “in process”…

Fingers crossed they take it on in 2005.

I’m looking forward to more comments of the compare/contrast of mid-point vs Davison.

Warmly,
Kim

[BodaciousBabe]

Hi Chrissy and Kim,

Yes, I am waiting for a mailed reading from Kim right now, but it may be interesting to discuss the Davison chart eventually. I don't know--at some point it becomes belly gazing rather than star gazing, and this particular relationship has taken so much of my psychic energy already for over a year. I really need to keep turning my energy to my family, health and work.

But, the Davison chart shows our Eros at 28 Gemini, with my natal Sappho at 28 Gemini, Sun at 20 Gemini and his moon at 19 Gemini. Davison shows our Neptune at 22 Scorpio with his natal Uranus at 20 Scorpio and my natal Saturn at 27 Scorpio. I'm not sure what this all means, but it means something!

Ah well, as the character in the movie "Love Actually" says after he tells a married woman he is in love with her, "enough, it is enough."

Bodaciousbabe

[Kim Falconer]

I love that film! And I have so often had to say, "Enough...enough."

It doesn't make the process much easier though.

We'll talk more on this when you've heard the reading. It should be there Monday perhaps.

Let me know.

Warmly,
Kim