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Post by lunariviera on Jul 25, 2006 3:22:50 GMT
I'm sure the asteroid Karma has been mentioned before, but my search did not turn up its own thread in particular (correct me if I'm wrong)... At any rate, I'm wondering how this asteroid manifests and how it acts in relation to the house it is found?!...aspects?! Does this relate to our general notions of Karma (i.e. past life influences, that which is fated, the Golden rule, etc.)...or is there more to the story?! The reason I ask is because my natal Karma is at 2 Leo conjunct my name asteroid at 1 Leo and my Asc. at 3 Leo...also, there's a New Moon tonight at 2 Leo, right on my Karma...so naturally I'm curious as to how this asteroid makes itself known! Please feel free to share your "Karma" stories...I'm looking forward to gaining a better understanding!!! Thank you!  |
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 25, 2006 16:49:01 GMT
I have Karma at 12 Leo not to far from the ascendant in the 12th. It is conjunct Timresovia, close to my husband's name and Bacchus, Hera, Hopi and Apollo., opposing Arachne at 15 Aquarius, a karmic degree. Yes he did experience an ambush that involved entrapment. What goes around comes around and I am trusing that with Neptune now at the square to the solstice point of this bundle, it will happen, somehow. The asteroid Stalle has just conjuncted Neptune for the 2nd time I think, so perhaps it won't be long. Stalle moves pretty quickly. Saturn has been conjunct here too for a while. Soon Jupiter will will be at the Solstice point for the 3rd and last time after he crosses over my Toro and pars heyleg in Scorpio. My only fear is that the attitude I've gotten from authorities, including my state reps won't change and this will happen to more and more people along with scarring my husband for life. But my trust is that right will prevail. If karma is action and reaction then Arachne is key being 3 degrees from oppositionl. 3 is ruled by Jupiter so he is important also.
If quantum physics is dissolving the original idea of karma and instead it is fate, then all that we've been through is part of a bigger plan which neither of us could stop and has a greater purpose than what appears on the surface. This is quite easy to believe given all the bizarre details.
Jupiter is square by 3 (expansion) degrees, with Moon conjunct today as my step mother is taken in for brain surgery (Scorpio in 4th) at 3 pm to expand a vessel with a stint so she won't have any more strokes. Her Sun is real close to contra-antiscion transiting Uranus. The universe is definately watching out for her through Stalle since they were originally going to do it yesterday with the Moon at its lowest point and void. Today is much better.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 25, 2006 22:13:22 GMT
Hi Lunariviera! I can get you started with a few threads from the past: erosastrology.proboards26.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=asteroid&thread=1116927610&page=1This is what I said of the original question about the asteroid Karma in relationship to the ‘Vertex’. Kim From: erosastrology.proboards26.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=syn&thread=1111717131&page=2 (Reply # 19) I think the only way to get to the deeper understanding of this contact it to look at the origin of the word Karma. It is Sanskrit, from KARMAN or KAROTI which means "to do" or "to work". KARMA is a word and we attach meaning to it in the context of what we know: The usual being gleaned from Hindu or Buddhist "consequences of a person's actions. Fate. Destiny." The word originally referred to the simple act of "doing". In that "taking of action" we have the RESULT -- consequences which will change our destiny, but Karma isn't the destiny, it is the action that leads to it. In this sense, asteroid 3811 Karma is quite different to the Vertex. The synastry contact could mean that "the work or actions" of another "trips" you "destiny switch". Being around that person when they are "doing" could at times bring you to a kind of epiphany or turning point. A realization. It's a two way link that joins action with revelation. Does that make more sense? My Karma is 22 Gemini conjunct my Mercury in the midst of my Gemini stellium so it's hard for me to put my finger on. I do say in my mind sometimes things like, "I have to write! I have to teach!" Perhaps there is something of the "doing" that motivates my Mercury energy. I know a lot of clients and friends and forum members that have personal planets very close to my Karma (especially Astro-tutor clients!) In a quick look at synastry charts I noticed that Amelia Earhart (who I did intensive research on for a case study) had Neptune at 21 Gem 33. I was "doing" at lot of work on her "mysterious" disappearance for months. The town where I have worked harder in my life than anywhere in the past for 15 years has Jupiter exactly opposite my Karma! As far a men go...I can't find any close contacts to my Karma (or Mercury). I think I tend to go for men without the benefit of my rational mind or sense of "work"! Anyone else checking into this theme? It's interesting! Kim |
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Post by Juliet on Jul 25, 2006 23:34:48 GMT
You, Kim, no contact with men to your Mercury... A Gemini! My relationships are always heavily Mercury.
I found a lot of transits to natal Karma or transiting Karma touching off important planets in my relationships, but no real pattern found here yet, since Karma was always near other personal planet at these transits.
It is applying retro to my AC/Moon now, and I've been incorporating it lately in any chart I draw.
I'll get back to this post later, if I find something significant.
Best, Juliet
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 26, 2006 0:30:00 GMT
Thank you Jade. She just left surgery, wide awake. The doctor found the first vessel, nearer the surface to be very clogged, cleaned and opened it. He decided this one was probably the problem one and didn't go deep into the brain for the other one he suspected as it would be much more dangerous. Hopefully this will take care of it.
Today, this week, Karma is Rx at 12, then 11 Capricorn with lots of crystalized material conjunct both my apparant and true node. I'm glad it is conjunct the true one today. That tells me he was very successful. Moon squared Jupiter at the start of surgery. Jupiter=expansion, Scorpio needs deep cleaning. Moon is moving in to trine her Sun now. I guess the 10th must represent my step-mom. My Mars in Capricorn in the 8th of the 10th has seen her through many different surgeries.
Karma is square most people's UB313 throughout August so I'm sure she will receive her name soon. In case you missed it, there is quite a thread in progress at Z's on this subject.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 26, 2006 1:37:14 GMT
Blessings, AE to your step-mom. It sounds like the surgery went well. Juliet! I had to re-read that old post of mine on Karma and I think I must of meant that I had no obvious relationships with synastry contacts to my natal Gemini from their Karma...everything else is usually conjunct! lol : ) Kim There is a link from my main page to Michael Brown's site www.falconastrology.com (he's the astronomer who found 2003UB313 and will announce when a name is approved). Kim |
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Post by lunariviera on Jul 26, 2006 7:23:18 GMT
Thank you Jade. She just left surgery, wide awake. The doctor found the first vessel, nearer the surface to be very clogged, cleaned and opened it. He decided this one was probably the problem one and didn't go deep into the brain for the other one he suspected as it would be much more dangerous. Hopefully this will take care of it. Kim's right, it sounds like everything went well and it's good that the obstruction was closer to the surface, thus a bit easier to contend with (as easy as brain surgery can be!)...I will definitely be sending her all the healing thoughts and energy I can muster!!! Thank you everyone for replying to my thread!!! Kim, I like how you clarified the difference between Karma and the Vertex...so let me see if I'm understanding this correctly, karma seems to require our action in order for it to be "triggered", whereas the Vertex seems much more about our reaction to fated and unexpected meetings and events (completely out of our hands)...?! So if Karma is the work that we feel compelled to do (or potential we feel must be realized), how do I interpret my own Karma conjunct my ascendant?!...do I need to "work" more on being myself?! (sorry for such a silly question) Thank you all again!!! |
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Post by Juliet on Jul 26, 2006 13:57:55 GMT
That's the fun part, Luna, there are not that many silly questions!!!! Please, try to be kind to yourself, and take all your questions seriously.
Aqua, I hope that operation will help your stepmom!
My Karma is at 7.59 Aries natally, which is the antiscion of natal Mercury at 22 Virgo in 8.
Mars in Cap wants and needs to do, Kim, and gives a great stamina to work. Antiscion of your Mars is directly opposite your Karma... Bingo.
Juliet
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 26, 2006 22:22:04 GMT
Thanks, Juliet. I hadn't thought so much about the Antiscion of Mars being opposite my Karma! (Now there is a sentence... ) I do know about the stamina though...and the discipline! Lunar, I think you are getting the hang of it, though I would phrase if not some much karma seems to require our action in order for it to be "triggered"... I would say Karma IS the action!On your name asteroid and on your Leo Ascendant, I get the feeling that action you take that feels authentic and meaningful to you (when you know you are 'on your quest and doing the work') you gain an greater sense of identity AND a clearer understanding of how you relate to others. For everyone, 'doing the work' (whatever that may be for each individual) will get them closer to 'who they are', yet in your case, with Karma on the Asc, the feeling is a kind of two way mirror...you see the world more clearly and they see you... Does that make sense? Can you add any ideas here, any personal experiences? Others? Kim |
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jul 27, 2006 9:46:30 GMT
Jade, we all have UB313 in Aries. 1954 is 8degrees or so. You can get it at the asteroid generator sights. There are also epemeris for every ten days out there. I think librarising has one. It has currently been crossing my Mo/Su. It crosses each degree about 9 times because of all the Rx passes.
Thanks all, for your blessings.
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Post by ana on Aug 2, 2006 11:11:59 GMT
My Karma is 28 Taurus which is a bit near that nasty fixed star Algol but since I was born around the time the bomb in Hiroshima went off I do tend to find such things in the chart....... It is also close to Psyche at 2 Gemini I do have a sense often of trying to find the path that is set already rather than a real feeling of choices
Just now I am trying to get a kitchen reno and the gods are just against it -Ikea people look the other way- measure and quote folk do not turn up so I am feeling that I will just have to let it go and do what must be done which seems to be to do it my way.......
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Post by jamma on Aug 2, 2006 20:32:21 GMT
Re: UB313
Did everybody see the huge article on Michael Brown in the New Yorker of a week or two ago?
(will try to find the date for those who didn't)
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Post by Kim Falconer on Aug 5, 2006 21:37:06 GMT
Is it online? I'd like a look at it....it's not linked from his site. I'll do a search. Kim  |
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Post by electricbluemoon on Feb 18, 2007 7:35:39 GMT
Karma 3811.....interesting!
I have an Aries stellium of: Karma/Ceres/Mars/Sun/Juno (in that order) in my 9th house near cusp of 8th.
This all falls on my boyfriends Descendant
His Karma is in Aquarius IC..not too far from my 28 Vertex in Capricorn
WOW!!!
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Post by kellyc on Jun 9, 2007 5:03:57 GMT
Hi Lunariviera,
A dishonest business owner I encountered has a close Kelly Karma conjunction.
After realizing that the BBB just sweeps robberies under the rug instead of protecting consumers, I sent the owner a letter with some over the top language. I had felt that words such as "rather discourteous" would have been ineffective so I let him have it.
Interestingly, his Kelly is exactly at the midpoint of his Mars Uranus opposition.
Kelly
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