A Very Basic Question About Progression Charts

[blueorchids]

I have a very strange, and ridiculously rudimentary question.

I am not sure that I am analyzing progressions correctly. This is what has tripped me up. The progressions must be read to the natal correct? Or is the Progression Chart first looked at on its own as a free standing chart?

I ask for the following reasons. When I pull up my Progressed chart solo today, I see Lilith, the SUN, Venus and Mercury all crammed in CANCER 6th House but when I place these on my Natal they are actually a powerhouse growing 8th House stellium. On my Progressed Chart my Moon is Sag in the House 11 but when placed on the Natal the Moon is actually in House 1 -- 7 degrees off my ascendant. Obviously the reading is very different for a Lilith/Sun/Venus/Mercury in H8 versus House 6 or a Sag Moon in House 1 off the Ascendant versus 11th.

. So my question is do I read, analyze and say that my Venus has progressed into the 8th House or the 6th house?

[tom]

hi blueorchids - yes, you're right to think that it's always read to the natal (everything's read against the natal).
there are times though when i glance at the progressed chart alone to get an overall sense of what's evolving, what things are looking like as a whole, but personally speaking i don't do much work based on that divorced from the natal.

i see i don't give much credence to progressed houses, though i know some folks who do...i don't why they do - i guess i just never asked!

[blueorchids]

Thanks Tom...

[Kim Falconer]

Hello!

It's not that basic of a question at all, as you are about to see!

Like Tom said, some astrologers do only read progressed charts back to the natal, and in theory, that's fine.

Many also, (traditionally--like Allen Leo) read the actual progressed chart as a free standing but in relationship to the natal--like a synastry.

That is what I do!

I am very interested in progressed angles, for example and I look at what houses planets occupy in BOTH the progressed charts and the natal...and I look at converse progressions too, if I want to really get convoluted about it!

In your case, I would see that progressed Moon (which is very important) as activating your progressed 11th, where you are growing and expanding in terms of your hopes and wishes for the future, how you are learning to be with others in group situations) and the results of that growth showing up in your natal first--an emaphsis on self-awareness. So right now, the work you do in group situations (one-to-many) helps you understand yourself better and may even effect how you dress or present yourself to the world...

Does that make sense? Look back 7 months ago and see what was going on when Progressed Moon crossed your natal ascendant. Anything related there?

With this in mind, how do you think P. Sun in the P 6th might activate your natal 8th?

Thanks for the query.

It's an important one!

Warmly,
Kim

[blueorchids]

Fascinating Kim.

To answer your question, I went back six months and two very major things were occurring when the Moon crossed the ascendant. First I adapted a vegetarian lifestyle for myself and my family through my relationship with Doc who has been a vegetarian for many years now. As a matter of fact I began exactly around that time and have continued since. While I had given up beef two years prior, 6-7 months ago I went full blown and also began working out sevral days a week for the first time since my 20s!

The second thing was 6 months ago marked the beginning of a change in how I would communicate with Doc in emails. I only realize this now because I went back to my correspondence. It was actually an odd period because I was writing more, revealing more of myself, teasing more. I was in effect coming completely out of the closet with my enthusiasm. Many of those emails were not responded to; some were. My biggest fear that he would say stop writing me did not come to fruition, but his quietness continues, and a number of emails still go unresponded.

It seems in effect that I began to come out of the shadows both physically (health improvements and working out) and emotionally (sort of throwing caution to the wind and saying --hey this is my humor, my heart--hear it, see it---set aside what you can't accept or handle. LOL.

As for the 6/8th house issue with the SUN and the progressions. Frankly, I am a bit concerned about the growing movement of the plaents through CANCER and the natal 8th house. My natal SUN is in House 6 as is my Mercury and my spousal composite has a big stellium in House 6. I am very familiar with the pounding drum beat tone of it--natally and in composite. I am certain that it makes me the dutiful person I am and it keeps me truly focused on the days demand of work, getting done what needs to get done before sundown (Virgo NNode).

The thing with the movement of Porgressed SUN into natal House 8 is that it's arriving with Venus. They are travelling tightly together. And Uranus is dead planeted there in the natal and progressed to the natal as well as Mercury (so that's four planets progressing the 8th in watery CANCER). That energy may be related back to 6th becuase of the intense health issues I am experiencing particularly this summer and the healthy regimen I am trying to stick with. But the energy around and about me is also foregin to what I am used to.

I sort of feel under siege by emotions, the need to express them, the need to be emotional overtly. I have felt that seeping in for a weeks now. The way that I am responding is rather atypical. I am actually speaking rather than saying nothing. I know with certainty for example that I will do in two weeks something I have never done, and would not have done months ago with Doc. I will actually open my mouth, kindly or with jest, even but nonethless open it and ask SO WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE INTERVIEW!! I VALUE YOUR OPINION.

So perhaps, that 8th to 6th is going to reflect tranformative ways of doing and being on a daily basis? Which in this case seems to mean for me, for once in my life some un-wussy, unscardey cat, grown up true verbal expression of feeling.

Go me!