Aphrodite in the composite chart

[neptunewoman]

I think Aphrodite is lower octave of Venus if I am correct. So, is having Aphrodite in the 5th conjuncting Jupiter and the N. Node like having Venus in the 5th conjuncting Jupiter and the N. Node?

[Kim Falconer]

Asteroid 1388 Aphrodite is best thought of as herself—and not a watered down (or even heightened) version of something else. She is Aphrodite in all her capricious wonder.

She is about a sensual kind of desire with a morality all her own! (read “none”!)

She seems to coincide with impulsive attractions and unexpected love, and those unions that trigger fated turns of events.

The interesting thing with Aphrodite is that she can coincide with animosity that turns to magnetism—a full 180!

Having her with Jupiter and the North Node in the 5th makes the escapades of love ‘Larger than Life!”.

Was that a composite contact you were referring to or a natal? In the composite chart, it is about how the couple express there creativity and possibly says something about thier relationship to their creations--books, art, children...

Interesting!

Kim

[neptunewoman]

Kim, I always thought Venus and Aphrodite were the same person..are you saying they are not the same person??? Personally, I thought one was the Roman name and the another was the Greek name...please respond as soon as you can.

[Kim Falconer]

Yes, the ancient Greeks called her Aphrodite, the Romans called her Venus, and the Sumerians called her Innana...the point is, they have the same archetype at their core yet they are not the same...they are as richly different as the cultures they spring up from.

Venus is more 'modern' in that her concern leans towards Socially Significant Relationships. Aphrodite may be seen more as the Taurus-sensual pleasure- component and Venus more the Libra.

When we have a major planet and a minor asteroid with similar archetypal meanings (Like Jupiter and Zeus, Venus and Aphrodite, Mercury and Hermes etc etc) we have to start to make subtle distinctions.

I don't like to use the term "higher and lower octave" because this places a kind of value judgment on the question--we have ideas about what 'higher' and 'lower' mean!

I was just saying that it is more creative to view Aphrodite as the goddess she is without placing her above or below anything or anyone else.

You are certainly correct to see the similarities in these images. Can you see any differences?

Anyone?

Kim

[neptunewoman]

Hey Kim, thanks for the speedy response! I am going to do some research on the differences between Aphrodite and Venus. In truth, Venus does seem more like it represents Libra than Taurus...sometimes I wish Taurus had another ruler. Anyway, I always love what you have to say. Thanks for all you do girl--you are awesome!!! ;D

[Kim Falconer]

You're very welcome!
Kim

And let us know what insights you gain in your search!!!

[primamateria]

Hi all,

I came across some very interesting material on Aphrodite through the work of Hillman and his collegue Thomas MOore. There is a lot of beautiful imagery to work with including the postures of the godess including 'anadyomene' (rising up after having been submerged), 'parakyptousa' (leaning over to look or stooping over to peep in) and Anasyrma (lifting up of the dress). These are 'archetypal gestures' which are said to point to the manifestation of Aphrodite in everyday life - that is we can find her, or she can find us 'rising' from her bath, or giving one a 'sidelong glance' etc. Let me know if you'd like to hear more!
Light,
Prima

[neptunewoman]

Prima where is the site that you are referring to?

[primamateria]

NW, I've borrowed books from my university library - James Hillman, Thomas Moore, Karl Kerenyi - amongst others. I'm not sure about websites, although if you google Thomas Moore there are a couple of interviews available, including one on anasyrma from when his book 'the soul of sex' was launched.
Joy,
P

[neptunewoman]

Thanks Prima!