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Post by neptunewoman on Jun 26, 2005 22:42:55 GMT
What should one look for in a first meeting chart?
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Post by neptunewoman on Jul 13, 2005 16:09:13 GMT
Thanks ScorpyMoon! I have not been here in awhile so I am now getting a chance to reply...
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Post by neptunewoman on Jul 13, 2005 22:36:37 GMT
Hey ScorpyMoon wanted to ask about the first meeting chart again...is the first meeting the first connection or the first day that 2 people are in the same space...even though they don't talk to one another?
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 14, 2005 0:25:42 GMT
I would take the 'first meeting' as just that. The moment in time when you meet. There may not be a lot of dialog but there would be recognition of each other, perhaps names and introductions.
If it was a situation where one person was giving a lecture, or performing, and the other 'saw' them for the first time, that has significance for the person 'seeing' yet it is not an actual meeting in terms of synastry. In synastry, the energy is going both ways---one 'knows' of the other.
I hope this helps. Kim
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jul 14, 2005 17:19:16 GMT
Ok I have a question then concerning first meetings:
What if the person who meets a person doesn't recall the first meeting (even though they flirted with them from afar) but eventually meets this person again at a much later date.
Which date counts? do all of them count?
thanks ahead of time,
svenskasfinx
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Post by stellaarcana on Jul 15, 2005 0:01:30 GMT
Ok I have a question then concerning first meetings: What if the person who meets a person doesn't recall the first meeting (even though they flirted with them from afar) but eventually meets this person again at a much later date. Which date counts? do all of them count? thanks ahead of time, svenskasfinx Hej Svenskasfinx In that case you have no choice but to use the date that is certain. It's fairly rare for people to be taking note of the exact time of a first meeting so I'd look at the chart that you can cast and see what that tells you. Some say (as in the article linked above) that the relationship is imprinted with the energies of the first meeting chart. I have a slightly different take on this. My experience with meeting charts has been that the meeting chart shows the mood of the moment and outcome of the meeting. I don't believe you can predict too much about the relationship or where it might be headed from this chart alone. (not as much as I've seen some astrologers ascribe to a meeting chart anyhow) I think it's more the transits affecting each person at the time of the meeting that makes more of an imprint on the relationship than the chart for the event itself. It's often the case when two people first connect that one is ready or available for a relationship and another isn't and yet years down the track they end up together. That appears to be more indicated by personal transits than a meeting chart on its own. It's interesting to look at meeting charts for internet relationships (these are often easy to record the exact time due to chat time logging etc) Often the people are in two different parts of the world which gives two charts with the same planetary aspects but of course a different Asc/Mc/Houses, giving two slightly different stories. So to answer your final question, I think they all count, but in different ways and for different reasons, each chart, be it the "first saw each other" chart, the "first date chart" the "marriage chart" all speak of that particular event and can all show us something about what forces were at work at that moment in time. S.A. P.S. I'm not sure if I've explained that very well sorry, my brain is just waking up! Also it's just my experience and theories, others' I'm sure will disagree!
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jul 15, 2005 0:08:48 GMT
Thanks for that answer! I actually had that date (and time) in one of my journals and even the chart because I was looking at transits that day.. (one of my favourite bands was playing I happened to share a laugh with HIM.. that was exactly 9 years ago! Thanks for that, StellaArcana!!! svenskasfinx
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Post by stellaarcana on Jul 15, 2005 7:32:57 GMT
I actually had that date (and time) in one of my journals and even the chart because I was looking at transits that day.. (one of my favourite bands was playing Hej Svenskafinx! That's funny you mentioned that... I will always remember the date of my "first love" because one of my favourite bands was playing that day too! (My next boyfriend had his birthday that day too, if only he knew the real reason I remembered his birthdate! ;D ) S.A.
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Post by darrah on Jul 15, 2005 22:27:13 GMT
Ok I have a question then concerning first meetings: What if the person who meets a person doesn't recall the first meeting (even though they flirted with them from afar) but eventually meets this person again at a much later date. Which date counts? do all of them count? thanks ahead of time, svenskasfinx have you puttered around the magi site for this? they have very strong views about first meetings -- and sometimes give even more emphasis to these than the CACS (synastry comparison charts) according to them, if you meet online, or just meet and don't touch etc then that's called the 'distant relationship chart'. then, if you meet and touch in any way -- that's the first meeting chart. this is then eclipsed by the 'love chart' - generated if and when you make physical love. then comes the marriage chart. etc etc. I'd go look around a bit. they have some interesting observations. I also love the cafeastrology site stuff. I'm on a hit and run, so I didn't log in. let's hope I can post this! dar.
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Post by stellaarcana on Jul 16, 2005 4:18:05 GMT
have you puttered around the magi site for this? they have very strong views about first meetings -- and sometimes give even more emphasis to these than the CACS (synastry comparison charts) according to them, if you meet online, or just meet and don't touch etc then that's called the 'distant relationship chart'. then, if you meet and touch in any way -- that's the first meeting chart. this is then eclipsed by the 'love chart' - generated if and when you make physical love. then comes the marriage chart. etc etc. I'd go look around a bit. they have some interesting observations. dar. Hi Darrah Sorry to butt in here, but I've got strong feelings on the "magi society" Charlatans is the word that comes to mind when I read their site. There's a few threads on this forum about "Magi Astrology" and peoples' experience with it. These guys certainly do have some interesting observations when it comes to astrology, most of them appear to be complete rubbish. If their whacked out theories on asteroids aren't bad enough, their basic astrological knowledge appears to be severely lacking. One glaring example is their "Star of David" picture at the top of this page www.magisociety.com/lesson3.html Mercury is never more than 28 degrees from the Sun and Venus is never more than 48 degrees from the Sun, their diagram shows Sun sextile Mercury and trine Venus. It seems their "planetary geometry" conveniently ignores some very basic astronomy S.A.
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Post by neptunewoman on Jul 16, 2005 16:56:03 GMT
With the Magi Society one does have to take what they say with a grain of salt...I did an intense study on the asteroid Juno and came across their site. Juno is referred to as the "mistress link." It was quite distressing for me because as an astrologer I see Juno(Hera) very different than a mistress. She was the wife, the partner of Zeus...she had to deal with many mistresses. I can't remember the theory behind why they call Juno the mistress asteroid but like I said be careful with them. Chew the meat and spit out the bones.
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