Post by Kim Falconer on Aug 17, 2004 0:25:54 GMT
Hi Nina,
Maybe, as a Gemini, I am building a bridge between Pisces and Virgo! (That’s building, hopefully not burning!)
I do think there is a feeling of “fate” to any chart. It is the topography of the individual, or the relationship (or question or enterprise) and the character. Those ingredients are closely tied up with destiny.
YES! The progressed composite does describe a kind of change and growth to a relationship. It brings different things to the surface, as do the transits. I liked what you said about when a person goes into therapy, they take the composite with them. This is very important. If individuals works on themselves, they are going to change how they experience all their relationships.
I agree that relationships change, and progressions and transits to composites can signal times of change. There is still something stated in the composite that can’t be altered, and maybe that is true of natal charts as well. It’s just that when a relationship hits one of those inalterable walls, it is really quite confronting.
Take the example of a composite with a 12th house Sun/Pluto conjunction in Leo, a third house composite Neptune/Mars in Libra. This couple met and fell in love with transiting Saturn/North node conjunct the Comp. Jupiter, transiting Neptune conjunct their comp Moon, and transiting Jupiter conjunct their comp Sun. They felt immediately that they had some higher purpose. Their relationship from the start was based on an urgent desire to travel to a 3rd world country to teach and work for those less fortunate.
This couple stayed together with that goal in mind for 10 years. As long as the 12th house Sun was fulfilled (the purpose of the couple being some kind of sacrifice for the collective) they weathered the myriad difficulties. When the decision was made to forgo working with the disadvantaged, the relationship self-destructed. It was like flipping on Pluto and watching the bomb explode. (Transiting Pluto was now squaring the composite Sun/Pluto. Interestingly, in the progressed composites for all those years, the Sun never got out of the 12th house.
The point here is that this relationship, to fulfill its purpose, needed to have the solar goal of “sacrifice for others”. As a couple, they needed to exist for others, not themselves. While that was in place, the relationship survived, even thrived. When the egalitarian goals were removed, it went very dark and cruelly destructive. No amount of therapy, communication, intervention or love seemed to touch the downward spiral.
This case history exemplifies what I am saying about the fated nature of composites. The chart of the couple could not “grow” with their desire to abandon their 12th house mission. They couldn’t (or at least in this case, didn’t) turn to another creative expression of the composite 12th house Sun with each other.
There was a message in the composite and it seemed that the ability of the couple to express it was time limited. Once the message was ignored, the relationship fell apart.
Can anyone think of examples of composites that compare or contrast this example?
This is so interesting!
Warmly,
Kim
Maybe, as a Gemini, I am building a bridge between Pisces and Virgo! (That’s building, hopefully not burning!)
I do think there is a feeling of “fate” to any chart. It is the topography of the individual, or the relationship (or question or enterprise) and the character. Those ingredients are closely tied up with destiny.
YES! The progressed composite does describe a kind of change and growth to a relationship. It brings different things to the surface, as do the transits. I liked what you said about when a person goes into therapy, they take the composite with them. This is very important. If individuals works on themselves, they are going to change how they experience all their relationships.
I agree that relationships change, and progressions and transits to composites can signal times of change. There is still something stated in the composite that can’t be altered, and maybe that is true of natal charts as well. It’s just that when a relationship hits one of those inalterable walls, it is really quite confronting.
Take the example of a composite with a 12th house Sun/Pluto conjunction in Leo, a third house composite Neptune/Mars in Libra. This couple met and fell in love with transiting Saturn/North node conjunct the Comp. Jupiter, transiting Neptune conjunct their comp Moon, and transiting Jupiter conjunct their comp Sun. They felt immediately that they had some higher purpose. Their relationship from the start was based on an urgent desire to travel to a 3rd world country to teach and work for those less fortunate.
This couple stayed together with that goal in mind for 10 years. As long as the 12th house Sun was fulfilled (the purpose of the couple being some kind of sacrifice for the collective) they weathered the myriad difficulties. When the decision was made to forgo working with the disadvantaged, the relationship self-destructed. It was like flipping on Pluto and watching the bomb explode. (Transiting Pluto was now squaring the composite Sun/Pluto. Interestingly, in the progressed composites for all those years, the Sun never got out of the 12th house.
The point here is that this relationship, to fulfill its purpose, needed to have the solar goal of “sacrifice for others”. As a couple, they needed to exist for others, not themselves. While that was in place, the relationship survived, even thrived. When the egalitarian goals were removed, it went very dark and cruelly destructive. No amount of therapy, communication, intervention or love seemed to touch the downward spiral.
This case history exemplifies what I am saying about the fated nature of composites. The chart of the couple could not “grow” with their desire to abandon their 12th house mission. They couldn’t (or at least in this case, didn’t) turn to another creative expression of the composite 12th house Sun with each other.
There was a message in the composite and it seemed that the ability of the couple to express it was time limited. Once the message was ignored, the relationship fell apart.
Can anyone think of examples of composites that compare or contrast this example?
This is so interesting!
Warmly,
Kim