Eros in Gemini

[gemstar]

Saturn is currently transiting Leo and could not be conjunct Gemini transits. I think you have misread your chart or transits somehow.

[jk]

No, when i said Eros and Venus conjunct to blokes saturn I meant that when Eros and Venus conjunct each other at 7 Gemini they will be conjunct my boyfriend's natal saturn which is at 7 Gemini

[Kim Falconer]

Here is an extract from my Eros reports on transiting Eros to natal Saturn, while we are on the topic! Teamed up with Venus, double the dose!...or is that 'teemed' up!!!

Eros to Saturn

Footfalls echo in the memory
Down the passage which we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into the rose-garden. My words echo
Thus, in your mind. -- T.S.Eliot

When Eros touches Saturn, the desire to ground in the depths of a meaningful sexual union can become quite strong. It can also be terribly frightening and overwhelmingly frustrating. The passions of Saturn are no less potent than mars or Jupiter, they just have trouble expressing themselves in overt and straightforward ways. An awakened Saturn means an awakened Shadow, and that usually means a serpent in paradise.

It is important to honor the power Saturn has to manifest an image of our inner demon. The tricky bit is that this inner demon may appear, at first, as a dream lover, a perfect match, or even as the one. The one it may be, but which one? Usually it is the one that matches and awakens every little scrap of fear, inhibition, sense of defect, isolation and loneliness a person can store. Why this feels so good initially is a complete mystery. Why it may spiral down into a stinking mire of unprocessed and unexpressed emotional turmoil makes much better sense.

Brief transits of Eros to Saturn may indicate the deepening of a relationship into a more tangible form, with all the fears and potentials that coincide with such an event. It can signify the awareness of a bond between two lovers that keeps them together in the face of aversion. It can also signify the separation of that bond if the aversion becomes too great.

The longer lasting transits to Saturn will manifest according to the emotional maturity and experience of the individual. For those who have yet to experience their first Saturn return, it can seem like outer circumstances block every effort to merge, create and transform. For those who have touched on their natal Saturn somewhat, it can coincide with commitment, deep attachment and even marriage. If Saturn is in aspect to Eros in the natal chart, the opportunity to review those natal issues will arise. In this case, the chance for growth is accompanied by this transit, although it may feel more like pruning at the time.

Kim

[AquarianEssence]

That's really good, Kim. It feels very, very true.

I have Eros at 8Sag (square my husbands by 4 degrees) in the 4th so I'm doing the Eros opposition. I have Circe (just learned it is pronounced kirk-ee) at critical 4 Gemini with prebirth new moon at 4 Virgo, Tantalus at 3Sag38 so it looks like a critical imbalance of sorts. Oh wait a minute. I have Lick at 4 Pisces. So I'm not unbalanced after all ;D My sweetie sure likes to tease. He's not a pig though.

I've been trying to see Circe's role in my life. I've never been a true supporter of the Women's Lib movement in the form it took. To much man bashing, rather that being equals. My mom was like that for a long time, very bitter against my dad and her next husband, even men in general. She ended up doing a lesbian relationship for 13 years, longest she had. Perhaps Tantalas was too prominant with my dad and step dad. Women are built different, after all. Perhaps for me, going through my hostile divorce and now the two male machine shops I've worked in I see some of why my mom was so bitter. My dad's attitude about my divorce was very revealing. I haven't reacted the same way, but I've been fortunate enough to find a man that is willing to work equal with me and acknowledge what he is more suited to than me, equal but different. Since Circe is in a 10th house position to my pre birth new Moon she is directly connected to my purpose.

Oh, my dad's mother's maiden name was Swinehart. There's where the pigs came from.

[jk]

admin said:

When Eros touches Saturn, the desire to ground in the depths of a meaningful sexual union can become quite strong. It can also be terribly frightening and overwhelmingly frustrating.

And with Neptune on his Mars and my Eros too, there is much uncertainty along with an indisputable drive for change. Boundaries are being dissolved and new ones being sought after. We do need boundaries.

Usually it is the one that matches and awakens every little scrap of fear, inhibition, sense of defect, isolation and loneliness a person can store. Why this feels so good initially is a complete mystery.

That is odd isn't it, my instinct tells me that it's part of our innate drive for change and emotional evolution that makes it feel "good". The other person appears to "know" us. It's why we feel that we recognise the person, that it is fated somehow.... Saturn being the planet of Karma (so they say). But, once we've scratched the surface, how much further are we willing to expose ourselves. The real challenge lies in wether we feel strong enough to keep facing our fears and then (god forbid) letting our fears go.

We have fears in order to protect ourselves. Eg. A fear of heights is quite reasonable, it's really a fear or falling and dying. But these fears will also reflect other parts of us. I have a life long fear of tidal waves, sensible? Not where i live. But then i have Saturn (on descendent) and Chiron (in 7th) in Pisces square Moon/NN in Gemini. I fear being overwhelmed in relationships and drowning. It's one thing having our fears recognised (that can feel good) but another to be told we don't need to have them anymore - hey they're there to protect me (scary). So we also strive to hold onto them and that's when we begin the headlong spiral downwards. . (yuck)

Brief transits of Eros to Saturn may indicate the deepening of a relationship into a more tangible form, with all the fears and potentials that coincide with such an event. It can signify the awareness of a bond between two lovers that keeps them together in the face of aversion. It can also signify the separation of that bond if the aversion becomes too great.

So, a transit that underscores much of the issues brought up in his and mine synastry and composite. He does want to drop his guard but he is too fearful to put into words how he feels (Saturn in Gem) I, on the other hand, need to be told, once in a while, that i am lovable. It's finding a balance. He and I discussed this last night so it's really helpful that you have posted this here today, thanks Kim.

The longer lasting transits to Saturn will manifest according to the emotional maturity and experience of the individual...... For those who have touched on their natal Saturn somewhat, it can coincide with commitment, deep attachment and even marriage.

Oh, and all this happening while Saturn, Mars and Juno oppose my natal Juno, Pallas and Eros, Conjuncts his SN and Ceres, opposes his NN and Mars.

At 41 i have never been married, and, for lots of reasons, i consider myself not the type (Lived with ex for 13 years and had a child but no weddings please). 2 nights ago i dreamed my bloke said he wanted to marry me, last night i dreamed we did marry. This morning on waking, he jokes that we both knew our morning roles (he wanted coffee in bed). I just got really narky, what with that dream hangover, told him that if he wanted a dutiful housewive then he'd got the wrong woman . Made the poor fellah do it himself and bring me coffee in bed.

Erm... i think i over reacted . Apologies are due. Darn it, i did say i often get it wrong