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Post by jk on Jun 16, 2006 12:49:18 GMT
OH GOOD LORD! Thanks Aquarianessence for bringing my attention to the Asteroid Lie. As you would expect mine is curretnly under major transit- thats always what brings them to attention. Natally i have it at 8 Leo with Saturn sitting on it right now and with Mars 1 degree off. Not only that but also - my fellah has it at 9 degree Leo. Not only that but also - i suggested to him last week that telling me what he thought i wanted to hear insted of the truth was in fact lying. Not only that but also - he's coming round tonight to visit me and my son and i have planned an evening of chilling out with pizza and a film. The film i already planned to watch, at my son's request?..... LIAR LIAR OH Jeez... Not only that but also - i just double checked, my son has it at 6 deg Leo. Not only that but also - Lie was 14 Taurus when bloke and i met, squaring Neptune which was sitting on his Mars and my Eros (at 16 Aquarius and opposite my Natal neptune. That's just too weird ....... and a little stomach churning
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jun 17, 2006 10:59:35 GMT
Hi jk, I didn't mean to give you an upset tummy, honest. Is that like butterflys backwards? Actually I'd consider it a blessing to have had Lie square Neptune by transit during an important event like that. I've noticed people telling lies more easily under a trine to Neptune. Also Taurus can have a rather habitual nature but Neptune disolves and Venus is exalted in Neptunes space. It seems that the two of you already have the importance of truth in your conscience interaction so thats good. Eros was in a position of authority over Lie when you met so if there is ever anything hidden by either of you, you'll know it through your Eros. Another benifit should be that you'll be able to unravel those apparant lies that aren't intended to be lies. I'm glad to hear that here, there is at least some acknoweldgment of truth vs falsehood rather than the only view being every thing is relative and only has value if human gives value to it. At the Tyl site there was quite a long thread holding on the the idea that perception is truth and my truth is not your truth. My lie is right in my face about 10 degrees from my Leo ascendant and 5* trine my man's lie. His is inconjunct his Neptune in the 3rd who is part of the trine in a hung t-square. He has tried to lie a couple of times but it doesn't work at all. In fact he's honest to his detriment, offering information that could potentially harm him. You know, offering information that he could be judged negatively for. The major lies in his life, have given him two felonies and a public projection that is the greatest lie ever told. I'm counting on his Rx Mars opposing, Jupiter squaring, Neputune 8th house type of inconjunct to expose and heal it somehow. Since our Neputnes are semisextile, I'm idealistically hoping that is true. But that takes caring on the part of officials, which is in short supply these days. Our Saturn's are inconjunct also. That might help. I think the Leo lie right in my face is the scar on the left side just under the corner of my mouth. It is from a herpes cold sore I must have picked up from my folks who have it. The painful scar happened when I was trying to cleanse it. It erupted when I was under pressure trying to take care of a family of children while their parents were on vacation in my early 20s. I have been under much more emotion stress and crisis since that time but it has stayed dormant, never a reoccurance in 30 years. The lie? They say the left side of the face shows how to read the spirit and right side shows how the world is treating you. I think it is reversed for a woman. All of the physical problems I'm having are on my left side. Even though I have a little extra weight, my left cheek looks sunken, undernourished. These left side problems have come from my work in the world. But then again, maybe I'm the one believing the lie. It's 3* sextile my Neptune in 3rd. What do you think, left side spirit or world for a woman? Which is the lie?
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jun 17, 2006 11:14:57 GMT
Guess what! Transiting Lie is at the Aries point of 0 Cancer today so Lie=my Saturn/Pluto. Pluto is a couple degrees before my lie. Lie's north node is Rx at 0Sag. Don't they say it's in its fall here? The node is conjunct my husband's Vesta. The lies I was referring to do have to to with the Sag law and do involve a misuse of power by authorities. This gives me hope that not only will it be made public here, but with the wider public. Lie will square his Saturn (trine mine) later this month while the node will cross his Neptune. Transiting Neptune has been tickling the nose of my 7th for some time now and will conjunct the cusp for the 2nd time when Lie leaves Cancer for Leo. I can hope, I have Pandora in the 7th opposite Pluto.
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Post by ana on Jun 18, 2006 8:52:41 GMT
In various therapies the left side is about stuff you are holding onto or suppressing about woman/women/your female side and the right all the blokey stuff I guess left being about spirit is about the same as that...or not But I find it to be quite accurate to ask a client about which woman has been an issue in their life lately if they have a left side complaint of any sort Now to check out this lie stuff It is on my Venus today for a kickoff
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jun 18, 2006 11:04:58 GMT
Hi Ana. This one is confusing. I can't imagine what I would be repressing about my feminine side. I'm a very feminine person. The only area where I tend to be more masculine is in the energy I put into work. I have never shyed away from hard physical work, although I prefer something different. I am aware that I have had a problem receiving in the past, always giving. But its not repressed. Since I've been working in a male dominated job, the only woman that has been a focus there is a nurse, case worker the insurance company hired to handle me when I asked what my rights are. Not too happy with her but that's not repressed either. She came in much later. Either she is incompetant or a liar, though saying scar tissue doesn't cause pain. I'll have to think about this one.
Since the Sun rules the left eye of a woman and Mars the left ear, the reverse of the male, you don't think it flows into the rest being reversed? If so, the connection to feminine issue could be one of not being allowed, or denying we are equal but different. Then injury to the left side would be injury caused by males denying females are fit for different labor or the female repressing this. The left side of the chart is where these issues would be played out, with Libra being central, Scorpio being the power of the struggle for balance. I accepted the work that caused the injury because, after I'd been there as a temp for awhile, with high unemployment rate, they told me the only way they'd keep me is if I accepted this work. The saw what a good worker I was and knew I was vulnerable. But all the work was designed for a taller, larger person. The one job had been done by a 6'6" 300lb man. I'm 5'2.
Back to Lie, it's interesting, Bill Gates announcement being made with Lie at the Aries point. I mentioned this to Noel Tyl in his thread about the announcement but he doesn't see fit to respond to that or the other questions I've posed. It's interesting though, that Bill Gates has the asteroid conjunct his node and Mercury was inconjunct that day, and rules his 12, now intercepted by Solar Arc. Of course if his family are the key position holders in his charitable organization we all know who usually benifits most from these organizations. Madd key people give themselves $100-250,000 salaries and nothing really comes back to the public to help with the problem they are supposed to be addressing. They won't even give schools more that moral and verbal support in their educational efforts concerning drunk driving. Their money goes to paying themselves and lobbying.
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Post by jk on Jun 20, 2006 11:28:45 GMT
;D Hi jk, I didn't mean to give you an upset tummy, honest. Is that like butterflys backwards? Butterflys backwards Yes i think so. It's just the synchronisity of events! To see that my Son, and I and this new man all have cojunct Lie being transited by Saturn and Mars on the same day we had planned to watch the film Liar, Liar together. It's very funny really. Actually we all had a lovely evening and laughed a whole lot together. We followed that film with The Truman Show, hich takes a great twist on the "Your reality/My reality" dichotomy. We accept what we beleive to be real if that is how it is presented to us. We may be "wrong" but we don't know that until the prospect of an alternative "reality" is presented to us. re Neptune in 3rd... I have that too. Any Nep and Gem transaction is going to be a little touched by a lack of clarity in communicating, i guess it just depends on where in the scale it goes. Down right lies or just a wonderful imagination. A tendency to decieve or a need to keep things hidden. Evil lying git or poor deluded victim. That left side/right of face is fascinating. New to me so i'll be googling that! One thing i have noticed is if you take a look at photos of politicians (most people i guess - but they are in the public eye so much more) after a while you can see that the left and right sides of thier faces tell different stories. More noticable in some pictures , not all. I spotted this very clearly with Tony Blair. Still carrying the face of a young idealsit when he came to power, then suddenly (at the time of having to decide whether to back Bush in the invasion of Iraq) one side (his left, i believe) just dropped. If you put your hand over one side and then the other you can see either the same idealist or a very bitter , cynical man. So there must be something in what you say.... Well thats my reality any way.....Unless i'm delusional too......... Ha Ha Ha
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jun 21, 2006 13:48:56 GMT
All of my sons seem to look more like their dad on the right and me or my family on the left.
I know they aren't telling me the truth. They treat me like I'm stupid. My sister has to have surgery periodically to remove excess scar tissue when the pain gets too much. She had an injury that wasn't treated properly in her teens.
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Post by jk on Jun 23, 2006 11:56:37 GMT
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Post by AquariusMoon on Sept 8, 2006 11:01:16 GMT
OH GOOD LORD! Thanks Aquarianessence for bringing my attention to the Asteroid Lie. ...i have planned an evening of chilling out with pizza and a film. The film i already planned to watch, at my son's request?..... LIAR LIAR Hi, jk. That is too funny! Tr Ast. Lie was in my H5 cj tr Mars and opp tr Jupiter when my b/f and I went on our first date together ;D
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