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Post by q on Jun 15, 2006 0:30:39 GMT
Okay, so she was the daughter of Aphrodite and Ares. Apparently despite her fiery parents, she represents harmonious marriages among other things.
What else do people know about her?
Where's yours?
mine's conjunct my Venus and Eros...I hope it's a good thing!
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Post by hopena on Jun 20, 2006 6:37:41 GMT
I can't help you with your first question, but she's apparently in my ninth house, tightly trine Jupiter/sextile Pluto. and square my ascendant/descendant axis by just over three degrees. *edited.
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Post by q on Jun 20, 2006 7:07:10 GMT
hi hopena! hey i just have to say hi you remind me a lot of me at a bit younger but also you are older but actually i just have to say you have uranus rising too! is it in the first or 12th house for you? i have been obsessed with it in my chart, sag rising, i am always glad to meet someone else to talk about it if they want
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jun 20, 2006 7:29:26 GMT
Before I go on a little week-long journey I must add something to this: "Harmonia ... that maiden immigrant from heaven, whom Ares the wife-thief begat in secret love with Aphrodite. The mother did not nurse it - she was ashamed of the baby which told its own tale of the furtive bed; but away from the bosom of the sky she carried the suckling, lying in her arm, to the fostering house of Elektra [Queen of Samothrake], when the childbed Horai (Seasons) had just delivered her baby still wet, when her breasts were tight and swollen with the gushing white sap. Elektra received the bastard daughter with equal rights, and joined the newborn girl on one breast with her newborn Emathion, held with equal love and care her two different nurslings in her arm ... So Elektra then with loving breast foster-mothered her brace of newborn babes ,the boy and the girl, and cherished them with equal care. Often she pressed to her with open hand and loving arm her baby son and his age-mate girl, on this side and that taking turns of the sap from her rich breast; and she set on her knees the manly boy with the womanly girl, letting out the gold of her lowered gown so as to join thigh parted wide from neighbour thigh; or singing songs for a sleep-charm, lulled both her babies to slumber with foster-mother’s art, while she stretched her arm enclosing the children’s necks, made her own knee their bed, fluttered the flap of her garment fanning the two faces, to keep the little ones cool, and quenched the waves of heat as the hand-made wind poured outs its breath against it." - Nonnus, Dionysiaca 3.373www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Harmonia.htmlI brought up the topic on another site earlier due to the connections between Hera/Juno (goddess of marriage) and the fact that Harmonia/Concordia is her granddaughter.. and that would be true even if Aprhodite/Venus didn't have an affair with Ares/Mars as both Ares/Mars and Hephaistos/Vulcan were the children of Hera (Ares/Mars being the offspring of Zeus/Jupiter and Hephaistos/Vulcan parthnagenicly created (without a sexual union) by Hera/Juno alone after Zeus/Jupiter gave birth (out of his head) to Athena/Minerva....) I have Harmonia in my 3rd house in Leo at 19 degrees, conjunct Sysiphus at 20 degrees Leo.. its quite obvious that I relate more to the Curse of Harmonia than her "blessings". Harmoina was cursed by Hephaistos for being the offspring of an obvious affair between his wife and his own brother.. "When Mars [Ares] came to the rendezvous, he together with Venus [Aphrodite] fell into the snare so that he could not extricate himself. When Sol [Helios] had reported this to Vulcan [Hephaistos], he saw them lying there naked, and summoned all the gods … From their embrace Harmonia was born." - Hyginus, Fabulae 148 and the curse takes place as a gift.. which actually ALL good curses do-- "The dread necklace of Harmonia ... The Lemnian [Hephaistos], so they of old believed, long time distressed at Mars’ [Ares’] deceit and seeing that no punishment gave hindrance to the disclosed armour [with his wife Aphrodite], and the avenging chains removed not the offence [of his affair with Hephaistos’ then wife Aphrodite], wrought this for Harmonia [the child born of the affair] on her bridal day to be the glory of her dower." - Statius, Thebaid 2.265One version of the myth they are turned into snakes, in another her husband must fight Ares' Hydra in order to free Harmonia from the curse. (sounds much like the dragon and the maiden myth of the middle ages) Just thought I'd share some of this research, and I must add, I am NOT writing a book, I was just curious about Harmonia and the hiarchy of Juno.. as Harmonia is a link between Juno and Aphrodite being related to both by blood. Be well, svenskasfinx
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jun 20, 2006 7:36:06 GMT
I thought I'd also add because of what this myth is about as a whole it was interesting to find that Harmonia was conjunct the Moon of my biological daughter (the one I gave up for adoption) (conjunct Jupiter in the 10th in Aries) but the conjunction of the Moon and Harmonia was by only minutes...
Sadly I guess I felt forced into the adoption and I certainly don't believe that her Adopted mother was like "'Queen Electra"-
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Post by hopena on Jun 20, 2006 8:29:49 GMT
Hi q, Uranus is in my twelfth house ~ nice to meet you. I was thinking about how what I wrote could be associated with different parts of my chart, like the Moon conjunct Venus or Uranus conjunct ascendant (from astro.com's description). svenskasfinx, I automatically thought of the good that might be associated with Harmonia ~ oops. I have a lot of reading and learning to do.
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jun 20, 2006 11:16:27 GMT
Hej Hopena- Every myth has a whole story to tell.. an asteroid isn't one sided and neither are people... There is also another Harmonia but also associated with Ares- Harmonia the mother of the Amazons. But Harmonia the meaning of her name/just as with Concordia its about harmony and bliss, and abondance of bliss.. I would assume only one thing from her myth, you don't get bliss ignoring the facts, but working through them. Ok so Harmonia and her husband are turned into snakes to live in the Alsysian fields forever.. not really a bad ending.. it could have been much worse take care, svenskasfinx
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Post by ana on Jun 25, 2006 9:10:02 GMT
The prose in that myth story is so lovely I got quite carried away
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Post by AquarianEssence on Jun 26, 2006 11:02:58 GMT
Hi, I have Harmonia at 25 Leo tightly conjunct Pluto in the 1st. Her declination is the same as the ascendant although she is 8 degrees away. Her and Pluto oppose Pandora, square Moon and POF but separating. When she progressed to square Moon my mom was going through her 2nd hostile divorce. I love harmony in music (I usually sing alto), color, nature and relationships. For a long time I denied my own needs to keep harmony in marriage but finially figured out that wasn't harmony. When she progressed to conjunct Uranua and Sun I opened an organic greenhouse specializing in herbs fitting with opposition to Pandora. When she progressed to trine Panacea in the 10th I focused on the history and medicinal use of herbs, moving into aromatherapy while closing the greenhouse. I love the synergy, harmony that happens when I blend essential oils. They even have qualities I call notes: head, heart and base notes, sort of like soprano, alto and bass. The base notes are used to fix the blend and make the fragrance hold longer. They're the grounding force. She has progressed to 19 Virgo now and transiting Neptune is inconjunct. The effect isn't quite clear though, LOL. I have noticed I feel more like singing since I haven't been in my awful work place. When she was inconjunct my desc I had moved into a more harmonious relationship but was removed from a not harmonious work place. The new relationship is looked at my many, including my ex husband as an illegitimate relationship even though we are married, quite the opposite of what I left.
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