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Post by ana on May 27, 2006 9:45:14 GMT
I just realised I had a lot about Bacchus in the Ult.Ast.Book which I bought ages ago and he relates Bacchus to Tantra with the B orgies as an intermediate stage Now that makes sense to me as with Bac/Saph/Mars/etc etc in Gemini in 1st I did a course for some time that I later found out was based on Tantric principles and I took to it like a duck to water It was working in groups and pairs on our bodies in a very meditative non sexual way-on acu points in certain ways and we ended up in total bliss every day Meditation in twos or groups is so much easier to maintain as you do not want to spoil the other person's experience by giving up ...... And by drugs seem so boring and alcohol so crude And sex simply more of the same bliss if one had a partner at the time Hail Bacchus
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Post by svenskasfinx on May 27, 2006 18:06:45 GMT
I just realised I had a lot about Bacchus in the Ult.Ast.Book which I bought ages ago and he relates Bacchus to Tantra with the B orgies as an intermediate stage Now that makes sense to me as with Bac/Saph/Mars/etc etc in Gemini in 1st I did a course for some time that I later found out was based on Tantric principles and I took to it like a duck to water It was working in groups and pairs on our bodies in a very meditative non sexual way-on acu points in certain ways and we ended up in total bliss every day Meditation in twos or groups is so much easier to maintain as you do not want to spoil the other person's experience by giving up ...... And by drugs seem so boring and alcohol so crude And sex simply more of the same bliss if one had a partner at the time Hail Bacchus Thank you for this contribution on Bacchus- I get the impression this is a key to something about the lacking of will to do drugs ever with me, although I love the altering perceptions of sex between "commited parties", when it works out correctly, it is the divine bliss needed to get though crisis, perhaps an escapist crutch but still, all about a certain energy tapped into which is to be "shared". (I have Bacchus conjunct Sappho, and Terpsicore as well as the south node of the moon in the 5th house)... it is certainly true that I can see how I can take my creative energies and give them away to someone else to avoid the need for painting, but without a close partnership, it turns explosive, and almost into a mania where I'm painting in the middle of the night, not sleeping, not eating, and totally neglecting myself. I think though I can say it is a combination of the Neptune(conjunct Iccarus) in the 6th with a 6th house ruled by Pluto that doubles up on this theme, the sacrifice of the body for "work" or "intensive physical/emotional/spiritual/sexual needs" (my Pluto is conjunct the Moon in the 4th house) Bacchus seems to focus its needs toward 5th house areas, and I know one other person who has the Bacchus/Sappho combination in the 5th and he is pretty much known for not only his creativity, but a certain joyful drinking ; I hope that he uses that energy to a better purpose rather than destroying his health, which he must do on those long tours of playing shows and drinking heavily EVERY night. Thanks for the insights that everyone has come up with on this thread- svenskasfinx
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Post by blueorchids on Jun 1, 2006 23:24:35 GMT
So interesting Sven, I do wonder how BACCHUS might relate to alcohol abstinence. I have always had a severe adversion to alcohol and drugs of any kind. The last time I tasted alcohol was during the champagne toast at my wedding 15 years ago. I have also never done any drugs, not even marijuana, despite a stint of living in Santa Cruz California where drugs were plentiful and much of the good company under the influence of something. I always joked to my non and using friends that my personality was completely out of control, wacky and intense enough without additional influences.
I checked my BACCHUS, Humorously enough, it is in my 8th House and YES!!! tightly oppsing my 2nd house Capricorn Saturn & Vesta! Bacchus is 17 Cancer; Saturn and Vesta are 17 Capricorn and POF is 22 Cap. I aslo had a secret fear that alcohol and drug would remove my good girl Catholic virgin patina. Well there you have it!
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Post by svenskasfinx on Jun 5, 2006 16:57:27 GMT
So interesting Sven, I do wonder how BACCHUS might relate to alcohol abstinence. I have always had a severe adversion to alcohol and drugs of any kind. The last time I tasted alcohol was during the champagne toast at my wedding 15 years ago. I have also never done any drugs, not even marijuana, despite a stint of living in Santa Cruz California where drugs were plentiful and much of the good company under the influence of something. I always joked to my non and using friends that my personality was completely out of control, wacky and intense enough without additional influences. I checked my BACCHUS, Humorously enough, it is in my 8th House and YES!!! tightly oppsing my 2nd house Capricorn Saturn & Vesta! Bacchus is 17 Cancer; Saturn and Vesta are 17 Capricorn and POF is 22 Cap. I aslo had a secret fear that alcohol and drug would remove my good girl Catholic virgin patina. Well there you have it! Yeah I have been totally (up until my 26th birthday) alcohol-free and I can still only count the numbers of times I've been "drunk" on one hand, although I thought last year that was going to change. Strangely enough it was a transit from Bacchus that gave me an urge to try Abstithe, and it was very good. I still don't really drink though, I think I had a glass of wine with my husband when he opened a bottle but that was last August. Sometimes I have a taste for it, and sometimes I don't but I can be escapist without alcohol and that is probably the reason why I don't do it much.. and I recall the first time I did have 3 glasses of Champange at a wedding in Chicago, it was the very first time I felt "drunk" and then I knew it, but my friends said, "pish, spending money on alcohol for you is a waste because you are the very same as if you are drunk.." Even still I shared a glass of Champange with my favorite band oh well.
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