asteroid Pandora

[alrhino]

Have this asteroid "Pandora" exactly conjunct my moon.

Any info on this asteroid? LunarScorp did say it was about being carried away on a tangent.

Thanks Kim, I know I've asked a lot of questions so far and everyone's replies has been really informative.

[Kim Falconer]

Dear AlRhino,

Pandora has some bad press. She opened the box and out flew all the evil and destruction…of course, also contained in the box was the Star of Hope. She released that as well. And, she was MEANT to do it all! Sure, it stirred up a lot of trouble, but it was all part of the plan.

Treehouse Mountain says of her:

PANDORA: Encountering unexpected consequences; getting “more than you bargained for;” being enticed by a curiosity, new idea, person or situation—and finding that it has set you on a whole new path; agitation.

Yet, Pandora means the “All Gifted One”. She received gifts from all the gods on Mt. Olympus when they made her. Not a bad start. She just got a very big dose of CURIOSITY!

Mark Andrew Holmes says of Pandora:

The asteroid Pandora represents the principle of impact . It impels to curiosity, restlessness, turbulence, adventurousness, a desire to make a difference or a splash, the urge to "be all one can be," unintended consequences and a process of change, and often indicates many abilities. This is very suggestive of the qualities of Aries, the sign of Pandora's perihelion. Patriarchal distrust of female power led to the ancient Greek demonization of Pandora and, through her, women in general, as the ancient Hebrews and Christians demonized her counterpart Eve. When afflicted, Pandora acts more easily in a socially inappropriate or destructive manner.

You can read his full article at:
www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/hidpanli.html

So, tangent, yes, maybe, yet in such a positive way because anything that strikes up our curiosity and gets us moving, learning, growing and interacting also moves us closer to ourselves.

Pandora/Moon may operate unconsciously or in gut level, emotional ways, yet still there is something about this energy I really like.

What sign is it in with your Moon? What house?

How do you think she fits in to your emotional life?

Let us know!

Warmly,
Kim

[alrhino]

It's in aquarius in the 7th house.

This is very suggestive of the qualities of Aries,

I have the sun in aries so I do identify with those qualities but I don't really understand it working in my life, which I suppose highlights the fact it works at a deep unconscious level since its contact the moon! I'll have to think about it some more.

[svenskasfinx]

Ack!

I have Pandora in close conjunction (less than a half degree) with Chiron! In ARIES... this adds up!

Its a process none the less I suppose.. too bad it squares so many planets in Cancer too! Oh well, makes it all the more interesting!

[Kim Falconer]

Dear AlRhino,

I wonder if you experience the cheeky, abrupt nature of Pandora conjunct the Moon in Aquarius in your personal, social relationships. In the 7th, I have to imagine that your one on one interactions would be where she might surface.

Do you ever make abrupt decisions that shock or upset people where partnerships are concerned?

Have you every had a crush on a sibling's partner or boy friend? (this is using the derivative house system where we look at the 7th house as being “the 5th (love affairs) from the 3rd (siblings or cousins).

Have you ever had a turbulent or sudden adventure with a grandparent? (derivative: 4th (parent) from the 4th (parent) = Grandparent!

Or maybe even a surprise “disaster” which turned out alright while travelling with a friend (derivative 9th (travel) from the 11th (friends).

Pandora and Aquarius go together quite nicely. You may have a lot of trouble getting any objective feeling on what is of the Moon in your chart and what is of Pandora.

Interestingly, (coincidence?) I have Pandora at 28 degrees of Aquarius conjunct my Descendant and my Moon (in the 6th) in Aquarius as well, though not conjunct.

On reflection, now that I’ve written all those examples, I have had every one of them and then some!!!

Interesting!

[BodaciousBabe]

Dear Kim,

I was writing a mediitation today on what I need to do to better integrate the energies of my Moon/Uranus conjunction (at 2 degrees and 0 degrees Leo) at the Midheaven so that these energies can be harnessed for good and quit creating such havoc in my life.

On impulse, I looked up Pandora and you are NOT going to believe this, but she sits at 1 degree Leo!!!! That also makes her the midpoint bewteen the Moon and Uranus.

She's the link between the two! What, on earth, might this mean, given what you know of my situation?

I also wrote a meditation that kept using the word "audacity." Without "audacity" nothing happens, nothng is shook up or changed

And of course, my Chiron/Eros conjunction is opposite the MH/Moon/Pandora/Uranus. Eek. Now is not the time to be faint-hearted I suppose!

BodaciousBabe

[Kim Falconer]

Hello BB,

Wow. Pandora at the Uranus/Moon midpoint?

You are right. Now is not the time to be faint of heart.

I know that Pandora was meant to open the box, that her natural curiosity and impulsive nature is meant to release ENERGY that is trapped no matter how difficult, bad or painful it may be.

She is impetuous, Spontaneous and provocative. She brooks no blocks, withholding or denial. She blast open hearts with her terrible power.

Uranus in Leo is like Uranus/Sun. It is a very strong will and force to be reckoned with. It is authentic for you to take charge, to be in command-- directing others in creative ways with your vitality and forceful nature.

There is nothing about you that can conform. You break rules, break hearts, break notions that are no longer authentic. The humanitarian nature of Uranus (so linked to the myth of Prometheus whose brother married Pandora after he rejected her) makes you want to work with your power in altruistic ways.

With the Moon, you have added intuition about what the public wants. There is a natural magnetism that is quirky and eccentric—a real unconventional artist type!

I feel that what you need to envision is the authentic boosting of these qualities. I see a meditation that honours the zany, talented, creative, abrupt, urgent, disruptive aspects of your nature and finds ways to live them out in your life. There is a strong need for blunt and forceful emotional honesty. You have to keep opening the box!

Does this make sense?

Your Libra Ascendant and chart ruler Venus in Cancer is not totally comfortable with this kind of outrageous behaviour. Part of you wants to keep everything nice, everyone pleased…that is natural for you too. Yet the public side is different and your complex midheaven must be honoured.

From my Vital Signs book:

“When Leo is found on the MC or in the tenth house, the drive for significance, honor and admiration acts out through the social identity—the career, mission or profession. Like a true monarch, there is a strong drive for power and the ability to wield it. Yet along with this sovereign stature is the need for approval by the audience. It is as if the social identity defines the worth and purpose of Leo here and if the feedback isn’t good, neither will be Leo’s disposition.

Like a talented pop star striving for recognition, Leo on the MC needs to hear the crowd roar with approval. Not every individual with this position will end up being famous, yet every one of them needs to feel acknowledged and respected in their chosen career or social position. From business executive to homemaker, medical doctor to maintenance apprentice, they need the feedback and attention of others to mirror their own sense of self-value. They also need to acknowledge their healthy ambition.”<br>
You add your Ur/Pa/Mo to that, not to mention Jupiter/Pluto in Leo in the 10th…well…is their a country out there you can rule? I think you were born to do it!

Let me know what meditation ideas you have here…I am wondering how much performing you are doing these day …or directing?

Warmly,
Kim

[aquariusrising2]

I was just reading your interesting posts about Pandora.
I have Pandora at 29 deg. conjunct my sun and venus all in Gemini in the 5th house. Can anyone shed some light on what this may mean?

Thanks!!

[Kim Falconer]

Hello Aquariusrising,

I’m glad to see there are no problems signing in now. I wonder what the glitch was?

Pandora conjunct Sun/Venus at 29 degrees of Gemini is it? Somehow I think Pandora is very much at home in that sign.

Gemini is a perfect medium for Pandora to express her cheekiness, he curiosity and her flighty desire for “light contact that creates change”. The 29th degree of ANY sign is somewhat volatile, unpredictable. Something is about to change and there is a restless agitation in that degree, even when it is found in earth signs!

The fifth house is a playground for Pandora. She can “open the box” in all sorts of areas that suit her, creative expression, romance and risky business.

How close is Pandora to your Sun/Venus?

If the orb is tight, it may be that you “get more than you bargain for” when it comes to creative projects. I imagine your ideas and designs would be “outside the box” and as long as there is a supportive place to express the eccentricity, it would feel exhilarating. In a conservative environment, it would cause disruptive agitation, especially when it involves those in authority.

Romance would be fun. I am guessing you would need to ask a lot of questions…explore (and maybe even push) into the “secret” areas the other is resistant to go. Results are mixed. You’d have a more honest and authentic relationship if “they” could handle the “release of demons”.

Does this make sense?

Like the Libra Ascendant in BB’s previous post, Venus isn’t completely comfortable with the disruptive side of Pandora, though expressing thought Gemini is more conducive than Cancer. Gemini gets bored easily and needs a lot of stimulation; Cancer is cautious and indirect.

How do you feel Pandora influences your Sun/Venus conjunction? Any ideas?

Warmly,
Kim

[aquariusrising2]

Hi Kim!

Pandora is conjunct my Sun/Venus conjunction by 3 degress. By your description above, I can certainly feel her. However, I think Pandora kept her box shut until recently. (although she may have cracked the seal a bit previously) I have really noticed her over the last couple of years, especially in my writing (I am a singer/songwriter) creatively, I have become quite "outside of the box" and in romance, more so relationships, I really need to probe, ask questions and go "deep" into the psyche! Still waiting to meet the person who will be BRAVE enough to "release the demons!" (I thought that was brought on by my Pluto in the 7th). Actually, I think Pandora has helped me to find "me". You are also accurate about the "restless and agitated" part of your description. Again, especially recently. Change is in the wind!

Thanks again!!

Aquarius Rising

[Kim Falconer]

So your Sun/Venus is about 25/26 Gemini? You realize that first, 12 to 18 months ago, you had transiting Uranus trine the later degrees of Gemini, doing more than cracking the seal on Pandora’s box!

Now, you have Pluto coming up to oppose this group from the 11th. It is only a few degrees away and I suspect you are quite sensitive enough to “feel” it. There is a strong activation and transformation in progress and the next few years are going to see some big changes. It sounds promising that you have a creative outlet well in place for the 5th house activation.

I’d be watching the relationship between these four (Pluto-Su/Ve/Pandora) in your solar returns.

Kim

[aquariusrising2]

I just educated myself a little bit more on solar returns, (thanks to your article which made it easy for me to understand). I had, previously, been looking at transits, and I am aware of the nearing opposition from transiting Pluto to my Sun/Venus. This is actually a point that will light up my chart as my natal Jupiter in the 11th house, is opposite the su/ve/pandora conjunction, Jupiter is also part of a Grand Trine including Pluto and Mars. So, I really don't know what to expect. I am certainly going to learn as much about solar returns and transits as I can! You mentioned Uranus trining my Sun/Venus/Pandora around 12-18 months ago. Wow. That transit really woke me up, and it was not. particularly, a comfortable feeling, although much welcomed. Boy, if a trine feels like that from Uranus to my Sun/Venus, an opposition from Pluto could be... I don't know! Explosive?

Thank again Kim for your help. I appreciate this site!

A.R.

[Kim Falconer]

Dear Aquariusrising,

More “implosive” I think. Pluto is a very internal experience, at least in part and I think it does take us on a very inward journey.

Not to fear! It can only take us through the landscape of our own souls!

I would tune into this upcoming opposition as a time of deepening insights, heightened emotion and creative change!

With a few surprises thrown in!

Warmly,
Kim

[Amoroso]

Dear all,

The past few months I've been trying to live out the Venusian and Neptunian energies that have been clamoring for my attention, but it occurs to me (thankfully nothing funky has happened--yet--) that I need to get back to the notion of Pandora as the midpoint between my Moon and Uranus. But that's not all. She is also the midpoint between Chico's Moon and Saturn AND the midpoint between his Draco Sun and Draco Mars/Pallas and is in opposition to his Draco Asc.

And in our progressed composite, she is directly conjunct my natal Moon and his Draco Sun!!!

She's calling on the relationship to "get out of the box."
We made a brief start yesterday, after not seeing each other for three months.

I hope Pandora has the patience to sit tight until our Cancernian ASC and Venus can stop moving sideways and backwards enough to sneak the lid open a bit more!!!! HA. I don't even know what that means at this point.

Blessings,
Amoroso

[Kim Falconer]

Somehow I wonder if it is at all possible for Pandora to sit still. She is not a “patient” kind of energy.

I laughed when you commented on the “sideways” motion of Cancer! Oh, can I relate! That CRAB can not go for anything in a direct fashion!

And Pandora seems almost the antithesis of cautious Cancer. I have the irony of Venus in Cancer and Pandora on my 7th house cusp at 28 Aquarius. Boy to I give myself (and apparently others) mixed messages!

Ultimately, it think the combinations requires a great deal of bravery.

Kim