ones progressed planets in anothers natal chart

[leonn]

is there any mileage in looking at my progressed planets in his natal chart? and what might my progressed AC/DC axis conjunct his natal AC/DC axis indicate? all feedback appreciated. thanks, leoon

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Leonn

Welcome to the forum

I just bumped a short thread from a few years ago that addresses this question--perhaps we can discuss it here further, with more examples.

It can be highly constructive to look at one person's progressed planets to the others natal chart. (See bumped thread for this explanation al la progressions and Solar Return planets.)

Like attracts like. It's often that we will attract someone whose natal personal planets or angles match our progressions. We draw to us what we are vibrating and if you are vibrating a new Ascendant then you will manifest it around you in others--their sun, or Venus or as in your case, their Asc! It gives you a chance to SEE and feel this new vibe in someone who's already out there doing it. What's it like to have X rising? Hanging out with someone who does is a great way to find out. You will spot very quickly the things you like about that sign and degree and the things that you don't.

Do you see what I mean?

For decades I have drawn into my life intimate friends whose natal sun sign and degree match my progressed sun. They are important to me for a few years and then seem to fade away as a new friend/associate/lover comes on the scene in the new progressed degree, or sometimes exactly opposite it. It's like an introduction, and exploration into aspects of myself I've not seen before.

We people our lives with bits of ourselves, said Dr. Jung, and in 'astrologese' that means we attract people with planets to match ourselves. (People, as you all must know by now, are like permanent transits AND progressions AND current solar returns....like attracts like!)

Who else find they attract their progressions? How does it seem to work for you?

Great question

Thank you.

PS Just bumped another progression thread that might be of interest

[leonn]

thanks for your response kim , buuut - forgive my ignorance - how do i find a 'bumped thread'? ive clicked on : 'links to post' , but got nowhere.... sorry! im sooo bad at this techno stuff... thanks again, leonn

[Kim Falconer]

'bumped' means that it has been brought to the top. In each of the boards there are hundreds of threads--not everyone scrolls down to read the ones at the 'bottom' so 'bumping' one brings it to the top. The two threads in questions are down at the 4 and 5 position right now.

'Progressions-- You and Others & the Urge to Merge'

'Progressed/solar rtns to natal charts in synastry

Just have a look at the topics one click back

[Juliet]

Hi!
I've found the progressed chart and synastry very useful when pinpointing important events in my life. Since almost all my personal planets are in the progressed seventh and relate to the 7th and 8th house emphasis in my natal, events in relationships are reflected very graphically in the progressed. My progressed Sun moved into Scorpio almost two years ago and will remain there well into my old age. I will be 52 in September.
I do finances now, a thing I would not even have thought of a few years ago.

Whereas my friends were airtypes, lots of Libras and Geminis, there has been a shift to Tauruses and Scorpios lately: coworkers, friends, my relationship.

When the progressed Sun moved into Libra in 1977, the father of my children and I met, and progressed Moon was on natal Mercury, I was mentally ready to commit, but it took quite some years (till 1983) before we really settled down. Progressed Moon in Capricorn, and we had our children and I finally really moved in with him!

A few examples of events:
When the father of my children and I met, his progressed Jup was exactly conjunct my Mercury, and his Sun and Venus conjunct my POF. His pr Juno opposite my Jupiter.

When my former bf and I met, his progressed Moon was exactly conjunct my natal Sun.

My financé's (we don't use that word here, but ok) progressed Moon just moved into my natal Virgo. My progressed SN is conjunct his natal Venus, conjunct my POF. His progressed Saturn conjunct my natal Moon and conjunct the composite Sun, or opposite it if taking the Davison composite. His progressed Sun and Venus conjunct my natal DC. His progressed Juno conjunct the composite Moon.
If I take the progressed composite, there's too much going on to mention, that would only be boring. But it's all visible in the chart, the energetic resonance that we are experiencing right now.

Relationship is an example of an energetic fit, as Kim states.

[airedale]

Hi Juliet,

This rundown on the link between your progressed events and life events is sooo interesting. I love these kinds of links. Thanks for sharing.

I have a question to any and all about progressed charts. Are progressed charts used only in relation to other charts or do they have significance on their own?

For example, in my progressed chart I have a whole bunch of planets in the 12th house. However, against my natal chart most of those planets fall into my 2nd house. Is there any validity to interpreting all those progressed 12 house planets? Or is the only valid info to be found from a progressed chart the relationships created to elements in another chart?

Thanks!

[Kim Falconer]

This is a good question, Airedale, and I'm interested to hear what others feel. I've always been rather traditional on this topic in that the progressed chart is an extension of the natal chart and means little when taken out of context. Realize that secondary progressions, for example, the 'day for a year' technique, simple create a chart x number of days after birth to match your x numbers of years you are old. That chart IS somebody else's natal and only 'belongs to you' when it is seen in connection with your nativity.

Here's Alan Leo weighing in from the end of the 19th century:

A consideration that should be borne in mind very clearly is that all directions (all types of progressions) are conditioned by the state of the horoscope at birth. Note: here he is talking about a progressed planet to a natal planet or a progressed angle to a natal angle or planet. However, he also finds the progressed ascendant and MC important on their own, particularly by sign and decanate (and dwad). He goes on to say, Directions should be interpreted in terms of the positions of the planets in the horoscope of birth, except when both bodies that form the direction are progressed, or when the directions is to a progressed angle; the progressed horoscope should then be consulted. He gives an interesting example here. Thus the king of Greece's progressed Ascendant opposite Mars Rx obviously means that the ascendant has progressed until Mars is on the cusp of the 7th house, hence war.'

Obviously....

But the point is that last configuration was pure progression--no context with the natal, so clearly he gives progressed to prog houses weight WHEN an angle is involved.

I think it's significant to have a load of planets in the shadow of the progressed ascendant and I do watch the natal and P house position of progressed moon WHEN she makes an aspect to a natal planet. I would think that as your progressed inner planets make aspect to those 12th house progressed bodies they would have 'something to say'. Your chart's on my other computer and I can't check quickly now, but if these 12th house p. planets are outer, they would bound to get some activation by p. moon.

Pop up your natal and progressed if you want to use it as an example. That might be the easiest way to discuss this.

Juliet, thank you for the excellent synastry examples. In that case we take our progressions and place them in context to someone else's natal!

Kim

[3rdhousenorth]

After reading Juliet's post comparing progressions and relationships, I took a look at mine...

When I was living with my ex-boyfriend many years ago, my progressed Sun, Mercury and Venus were all in Libra, with my pSun exactly on my natal north node in Libra - and my ex was a Libra Sun.

Now all those planets have progressed into Scorpio and my new boyfriend has a Scorpio Moon. My pMoon is in late Gemini and his pSun is in late Gemini - and both my pMoon and his pSun will change signs into Cancer near the same time this coming winter. Besides the pMoon in Cancer, my pVenus moves into my 4th house this winter, where I already have pSun, pMercury and pJupiter - so an emphasis on 4th house (with Scorpio on the cusp). Lots of emotional depth and "hominess" there! It also corresponds with an ongoing long transit of Pluto trining my natal Venus-Pluto conjunction in Virgo.

[Juliet]

Isn't it graphic, 3rd? Must be lovely to have your bf's pr Sun and your pr Moon so in synch.

My pr Moon just moved into Sag, so a whole different energy will be manifesting in my emotional life and attitude. Bf's pr Moon and mine are square now, since his just moved into Virgo, but that will compensate the surplus of trines we have in the synastry: lots of as we call it 'peace on earth'. His natal Scorpio adds an edge to all this; and my packed 8th of course.
I feel a lot less jealous, must be the Sag influence! Or being together 2,5 years...

[3rdhousenorth]

Yes, his pSun and my pMoon lined up are good. I guess my pMoon will move ahead into Cancer 1-2 months before his pSun, but he'll be close behind.

Funny your "peace on earth" trines! D and I have great synastry. Our composite is rather scary (Saturn aspects both Moon and Sun/Venus - yikes! Could be that he is 12.5 years older than me, but also I guess it's a committed type of relationship... Saturn is in Libra, where it's exalted) - but that's another discussion area! Hopefully great synastry will help deal with the composite stuff.

[Juliet]

Oh, 3rd, forget about the 'scary' label. That's really only one way to look at these aspects. There are zillion others. Like 'commitment', 'learning to express feelings even if it feels scary', 'mutual responsibility' and there's many more. Saturn has so many gifts, start to appreciate them.

[3rdhousenorth]

Oh yes, I appreciate Saturn! Just coming up on the final pass of Saturn transiting my Sun and square my natal Saturn (right after 2 1/2 years of Saturn transiting my very full first house). I just know how to handle it myself, but not how it functions in that "third entity" of the relationship (the composite). Thank you for your thoughts on what it might mean there! Doesn't sound so scary.