Moon VOC in Solar Return...

[lunariviera]

Hello!,

I was hoping to find out if anyone has had some prior experiences with a VOC moon in a solar return chart?!...if so, how did it manifest for you?!...

How does one go about interpreting a VOC moon in an SR chart in particular?!

Any and all insight is welcome!...

curiosity strikes deep...

[flower]

Hi Lunariviera,

I think this is a good question.....and a good idea to go back and check one's prior returns.

I have VOC Mn natally but whether it would operate in a Solar Return differently, I don't know. I suspect not. Perhaps it would mean that for that year VOC Moon traits would be cultivated or worked on/through.

Hopefully Kim can give us something definitive regarding a Solar Return VOC Moon.

Flower

[AquarianEssence]

I would have to say it's read like any void. My last Solar return has Venus void. She is still applying a square to my natal Moon but that seems not to matter. She rules SR 8 and 3, natal 10 and 3. My birthday is 9/4. I worked and had taxes taken until April, right after tax deadline. I was put out of work over an arm injury and received non taxable income until a few days before my birthday when the insurance company began the dispute with my boss notifying me I was fired as of July. She is in the SR 7th and I'm going through a lawsuit. Nothing has gone the way it should and normally would. I have had taxes overlooked, am getting back much more than I paid in. While the part of my problem they wanted to focus on is getting better, the part I initially complained about and they have refused to address seems to be getting worse, symptoms now in both arms even without heavy activity. Strange and mysterious. So, I'd have to say that any planet when void should be considered important.

[lunariviera]

Thank you both for contributing to this thread!!!...

flower, I've looked back at a few of my own past SR charts and I haven't found one that has had the Moon VOC (in this particular case, it's at 29 Leo)...I have a very close friend who has his natal moon VOC (29 Cancer), but since it's a natal placement, it would seem to me that it would manifest in a variety of ways or in one area or in a particular fashion over the entire course of his life...it also gets confusing deciphering his VOC Moon because he has a Cancer rising and Mars in Cancer conjunct the Asc, but I digress...

Since the SR is in effect for a shorter, more concentrated duration, I'm a bit thrown...

AquarianEssence, I liked the example you provided as it seems that you've experienced Venus void rather directly and obviously...(btw, I'm terribly sorry about your arm injury and all of the red tape you've had to endure because of it...it sounds like your boss is a real snake and from what you've described, her actions don't sound very "legal"...I firmly hope that all is resolved in your favor...I would imagine there might be some changes approaching with your upcoming demi-return?!...good luck!)...

To be more straightfoward, the SR VOC Moon I'm referring to is my own (big shocker!)...My SR is not until July, but recently I thought I'd give it a peek and I discovered this...it's actually part of a small SR stellium in my SR 5th house with Saturn at 24 Leo, the Moon at 29 Leo, and Venus at 1 Virgo...the natal house this all would fall in is my natal 2nd (although my natal 2nd house cusp is 25 Leo, which finds SR Saturn on the cusp from the 1st house)...

I'm wondering if I should interpret this as issues surrounding self-worth (2nd house) in relation to romantic endeavors (5th house)?...

At any rate, it's an interesting chart that has a lot of emphasis on the Moon...the SR Asc. is 6 Taurus and my own natal Moon is 8 Taurus (natally in my 10th)...the SR chart ruler is Venus, which is almost in exact conjunction to the SR Moon in question...so to bring this full circle, I'm just curious as to the possible effects of a VOC Moon?! (could it be a "close, but no cigar" relationship?!...I mention relationships because in Mary Fortier Shea's book 'Planets in Solar Returns', she mentions that the Moon placed in the SR 5th could be a strong indicator of a new romantic possibility, further emphasized by the SR Venus placement there as well)...

I look forward to any further insights and information anyone might have...I love hearing personal stories and experiences as well!

Thank you so much!
=)

[AquarianEssence]

I will be very glad to hear your continued observations throughout the year. Don't be surprised if you have the most fun for the least effort during this year. There are so many ways this can manifest. You could overlook or be overlooked. But with Leo, I doubt it. One caution would be gambling or speculation. With the void Moon you could have a big win with very little investment (my step mom has done this) or could gamble away our whole paycheck without realizing it. The last aspect should give you some indication wether this will be an easy or need to be cautious year. One thing I've noticed is that others have overlooked something that is to my advantage, such as a certain law when the boss fired me. They violated a civil rights law so I was reimbursed my back wages.

And about Venus void...I recently realized she is void from birth. Funny how you can look at something a zillion times and overlook it. She is semisextile or dodecile Moon, but even that is separating. No wonder I have 3rd house issues...and 2nd and 10th....7th is pretty good though. Maybe the SR void will void the void

[erato]

This is OT, but related. From everything I've read (on various sites), my upcoming solar return  (8/20) occurs on a "heavy" or "bad astrological" day... SR Saturn conjunct venus & sun, and square my SR moon, while Neptune opposite/square them. My Leo Stellium is in the 7thH, Neptune is conjunct the ascendant, and the Moon is conjunct the MC......Good times!!! Does this mean my year in general will be hard? Or would you say free will plays too much of a roll?

In my natal chart, I have similar aspects, and I've been told this factor's into how well I would handle these transits.

[Kim Falconer]

HI Pseudo Italian,

You probably recall the post in the introduction to this forum about value judgements in our language-- Astrology is a sacred art whose essence is often distorted into our everyday 'comfortable' way of speaking. Doing this limits our understanding and our ability to interpret the symbol system. The cosmos doesn't 'think' in terms of labels such as 'good' aspects, 'bad' aspects, 'yucky' synastry' or 'treacherous' transits or ‘glorious’ progressions. It describes energy, just as it is. We all use these adjective without thinking.

If we keep this in mind, it is so much easier to get to the core meaning of these placements and not have to grapple with the idea that the year ahead might be doomed in some way. Free will begins with your thoughts and as long as you are thinking your solar return reflects a heavy and hard time, you aren’t going to have much chance of experiencing it any other way.

See if you get to the core energy of what these planets represent without attaching value judgement. Saturn says get serious, work hard, be practical and authentic. If he is conjunct your Solar Return Sun and Venus, you might have a year where you enter into a business partnership that becomes a platform for creative expression. You might find a relationship is not giving you the opportunity to ‘be yourself’ and it’s time to make changes so that it can. You might be keen to save money to go to art school! Whether these experiences are hard and heavy or light and breezy is up to you—that is not determined by the placements.

Does that make sense?

See if you can go around your solar return chart and come up with a sentence for each placement that matches the energy there without any judgement. I’m sure we’d all be interested in your results!

Kim

[erato]

Yes it does Kim.

I apologize for choosing inappropriate language-- however-- you did end up answering my question!

I understand the concept of SR, but still have a ways to go. Visiting various sites and seeing my birthday described as "not an easy day" made me wonder just how that "snapshot" might affect my life for the next 12 months. Kind of like, "how much weight does it really hold?" (If that makes sense).

Years ago I had a reading done of my SR-- or what I thought would be a SR reading. Instead the woman focused on how upcoming eclipses would affect my life for the next year. It was so bad, and such a negative reading that I burst into tears, and left mid-reading. (I'd just come off a very difficult year, and the thought of no end in site was just too much for me). So, I guess I'm still a little jumpy when I read a "gloom and doom" prediction.

I you may have guessed, I have Saturn in hard aspect to a couple of planets, and for me, it's been difficult energy to deal with; feeling like I'm always climbing a mountain, but never quite getting to the top. (Saturn & Capricorn are very strong in my chart).

The past two years with Saturn transiting Leo, have been difficult. I wouldn't want to go back to the way my life was two years ago--but I've faced a lot of adversity. A bad car accident that ended my career; trying to go back to a former career and not quite fitting in.... dealing with money issues and a lawsuit because the accident etc.... But I am a stronger person. And I'm in a better place. Resolution is not too far off.

Probably more info than you needed.....But thank you for clarifying. I will try to look at my chart in a more reflective way.

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Pseudo Italian,

Yes, you did get my attention!

Have you seen my article on reading return charts? There are steps there to help anyone delineate the energy of their solar year.
www.falconastrology.com/reading_returns.htm

I am sorry to hear of your experience with the eclipse astrologer. Sounds like the last thing you wanted to hear--I focus on the energy of all the planets in a creative and uplifting way...I believe people will experience their transits as supportive and stimulating if that's what they are open to!

When you have aspects in the SR chart that are present in the natal, it reaffirms the promise and potential for creative expression in the birth chart. I don't see how one could say "this is a bad day'...bad for whom? Everyone creates their days according to their own nature. I don't know any bad ‘days’...

If you focus on what you want and find more and more things to be happy and grateful about, your life will move forward in ways that you will just love and appreciate--no matter what transits or solar return configurations there are. It's all just energy for you to use any way you like.

Hope this helps.
Kim

[erato]

Kim:

I just read your post, and the corresponding article. Very informative.

One of the reasons I'm attracted to this site is the positive energy it brings. There are so many sites on the Internet full of hate and negativity. Thanks for focusing on empowerment!

I got a SR report last month that had a (rather) negative tone to it. After reading your article, I went back to my report (Planets in the Solar Return), and deleted the negative points. After re-reading the edited version, I felt better about my options. It's full of potential.

Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to look at something in a different light!