London Terrorist Attack Chart

[stellaarcana]

As Svenskasfinx mentioned, there has been terrorist attacks in the form of explosions on the public transport system in London this morning

My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims and their loved ones.

I've had a quick look at the event chart:



Unfortunately I can't just get the applying aspects to show. They alone paint quite a picture of that moment in time.

GENERAL:
Mars (violence) conjunct North Node in 8th house (death) with South node conjunct 3rd House cusp (transport...the explosions were throughout the London transport system) making a t-square to the Sun (representing a nations political leader in mundane astrology...Tony Blair P.M did make his country a target for terrorism by joining the US in the "War on Terror")

The North Node Mars conjunction is trining the Mercury/Venus conjunction in the 12th House (hidden enemies) The Mercury/Venus connection is further emphasised as Venus ruled Libra is the cusp of the third house (transport and communication)

According to Bernadette Brady, the trine aspect in predictive astrology is about "rapid development of a situation due to the removal of all obstacles" (this can make a situation rapidly improve OR rapidly precipitate a problem)

Pluto (terrorism) in the 4th House (the common people in mundane astrology) was is making a loose trine to the Mars/NorthNode conjunction.

MOON:
The Moon was squaring the Mars/Node conjunction before the event. The final aspect the Moon (ruling the common people in mundane astrology) will make before it changes into Leo is a conjunction to Saturn, it seems very fitting under the circumstances... I imagine that security will be increased and public freedoms reduced (by authority or just general fear as seemed to be the case after the USA attacks)

ARABIC PARTS:
The chart ascendant is conj the arabic "part of security" (asc+venus-mercury) (Venus/Mercury again)

The chart MC is conj the arabic "part of sickness and murder" (asc+mars-saturn) (there have been many injuries and several deaths so far)

The chart POF is conj the arabic "part of journey's by land" (asc+9th-ruler of 9th) and also the "part of killing planet (day)" (asc+moon-ruler of 4th)

FIXED STARS:
There's a many conjunctions to fixed stars. For the sake of brevity I'll just list a few that are particularly applicable to this chart;

Midheaven conjunct Menkar 0°47'
Menkar, (also called "Menkub", Arabic "mischir" ), "the nose" of the monster (Cetus), is associated with illness and ruin. It corresponds with tests of endurance and strength.

Vernal Point conjunct Scheat 0°33'
Scheat, "the shoulder" of the winged horse Pegasus, is regarded as an omen of disaster. It could lead to danger to life in catastrophes, such as floods, shipwreck, mining accidents, aeroplane accidents etc.

Vulkanus conjunct Pollux 0°06'
Pollux, in Gemini (The Twins), also called Hercules, has the name "the wicked boy" of the brother and sister part of Castor and Pollux. According to its nature, this star is brutal, tyrannical, violent and cruel if in conjunction with the Lights, Asc or Mc, or even linked with malefics. It sometimes indicates cruel twists of fate.
Vulkanus is a transneptunian planet (awareness of invisible power) which was conjunct the Moon (public) in the chart

Take care everyone.
S.A.

[brenton]

Terrorism is not a new aspect to London, London has had countless attacks and threats by the IRA of North Ireland prior to the birth of Middle-Eastern terrorism. It may be possible that this may have been carried out by a different terrorist group than Al Qaida. However evidence of now does suggest it was an attack from an Islamic fundimentalist terrorist group and possibly Al Qaida. According to the chart Sun, Moon and Saturn are placed in the 12th house in Cancer. 1

[brenton]

Terrorism is not a new aspect to London, London has had countless attacks and threats by the IRA of North Ireland prior to the birth of Middle-Eastern terrorism. It may be possible that this may have been carried out by a different terrorist group than Al Qaida. However evidence of now does suggest it was an attack from an Islamic fundimentalist terrorist group and possibly Al Qaida. According to the chart Sun, Moon and Saturn are placed in the 11th house in Cancer. 11th house rules social relations, friends, alliances and political organisations. The attack was planned secretly with the intent of damaging the collective morale of Britian symbolised by the Cancerian sun and moon. Strange that the Ascendant and sun is same sign as President Bush with mercury in Leo and 12th house Cancer sun!! This will initiate a powerful reaction by presidant Bush and the United States. Cancer is the sign that holds powerful influence over the U.S. The U.S will have powerful backing of Britain as I believe that the U.S.A has a Scorpio rising chart and England an Aries Rising chart. Mars in Aries in the 8th symbolises a future war brewing over finacial resources and power. England will be bitter for revenge this will cause further tension or comprimisation with middle Eastern nations. Depending on how these energies are utilised. Uranus in Pisces in the 7th symbolises that most politically progressive nations will be critical of Britains future foriegn policy regarding the London bombings inscedent. Intresting in what you say stella arcana I agree with you in the sense that Britian brought this onthemselves by getting involved in the 'coalition of the willing' against terrorism. Australians have allready been aimed at at Bali in 2002, to be honest Im fearful for the 2006 olympics beacuse we are just as strongly dispised as Britain and U.S.A for our involvement in the coalition of the willing.

[brenton]

Sorry I mean commonwealth games instead of 2006 olympics that will be held in Melbourne, Australia. I always muddle my words!! hehe silly me

[stellaarcana]

brenton said:

England an Aries Rising chart.

There's a few charts in use for England, one I have in front of me is for The Foundation of the United Kingdom (1 Jan 1801 0000hoursLT) Interestingly enough it has the moon at 19 degrees Cancer....the midpoint of the Sun/Moon in the chart above.

S.A.

Silly me too! I meant to say, welcome to the forum Brenton Time for bed!

[Bridget]

Hello,

Not to be contrary, but to blame the victim for the crime, seems to take responsibility away from those who cold heartedly planned such horrific violence. Probably, if we could look at the individual charts of those involved in the attack, we would see the propensity to harm others, obsessed with finding an outlet.

We are dealing with extremists that must be personally responsible for what they do, just as America and the UK must be responsible for their part. In saying the last, the present terror war on the West, has more to do with fighting our culture than it has to do with our politics.

Thankfully, as a woman, I am not living in a fundamentalist world that would see me as wicked for doing much of what I do.

Just to consider.

[Kim Falconer]

My heart goes out to all involved in the attacks. The shock alone is so traumatic...and although I don't really separate a culture from the politics that rise up from it, this event certainly has global impact.

Pluto rules terrorism and the roots go deep into the collective unconscious.

Thank you SA, for posting the chart and your detailed comments.

Maybe we can all take a moment, every few hours, to send light and love and healing intensions to everyone touched by this experience.

Blessings,
Kim

[andrewthorn]

No foreign policy, even if one disagrees strongly with it, gives anyone the right to commit this sort of odious, cowardly mass murder.

I was taken aback by the humanness of Primeminister Blair's reaction; he was genuinely moved and shocked by the attacks.

I have relatives in England but none who live in London . It is a despicable act that, hopefully, will be followed by compassion and a desire for justice rather than reciprocal hate and violence.

[svenskasfinx]

Ok My feelings about what happened there..

As I have been there recently and have the feeling of something to happen, but not really understanding what I feel it may have been a cumulation of events.. as the timing to me felt off-

People can go around pointing fingers here and there but under the situation we are all at a loss in spite of politics hijacking the events to gain attention to "their" issues (for example Blair saying it was a direct attack timed to the G-8)

The ghostly spector that shows its face is that it could have been anywhere.. any time but it happened to be London.. I don't know what today's events should unfold but I know that sometimes things are never as they seem. (I get the feeling that this was not really "timed" as much as an "opportunity" which developed over months)

When I was in London a train broke down due to the heat and lines were closed and people were trapped for more than 6 hours.. and it said to me, that if something were to happen, how prepared could anyone really be.. and I wasn't thinking of "terrorist attacks" but anything out of the ordinary.

Too much of the time I wonder if there really are people who would wish innocent people harm or is it a game of politics? I don't see how anyone can want to harm people, yet at the same time I know there is still a war and that even those who were groups of people protesting at the G-8 meeting in Scottland were violently smashing at police and others, and destroying property.. (when people do things like this, they are not making a point as much as they are taking away freedom of speach for other people as the police become even more repressive)

I can only hope that peace will express itself just as strongly and never fail to touch the hearts of everyone.
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Previous to the London bombing.

take care,

svenskasfinx

[stellaarcana]

Bridget said:

Hello,

Not to be contrary, but to blame the victim for the crime, seems to take responsibility away from those who cold heartedly planned such horrific violence. Just to consider.

Hello Bridget

I agree with your sentiments on not blaming the victim entirely. I assume your post is aimed at this comment of mine:

Tony Blair P.M did make his country a target for terrorism by joining the US in the "War on Terror")

That comment was stated as a fact (not a personal judgement) that also happened to be reflected in the chart. AQ clearly made it known in the media after 9/11 that Britain and Australia are now targets because of their alliance with America.

My aim was to read the event chart from an astrological perspective, not judge the rights and wrongs of the situation or assign blame to any party.

I apologise if my ability to detach from the emotions of a situation in order to look read the chart in a personally unbiased manner, combined with a lack of expressive abilities have given the impression that any victim of this situation is to blame. That was not my intention at all.

For what it's worth, Andrew summed up my personal sentiments on the situation with this sentence;

It is a despicable act that, hopefully, will be followed by compassion and a desire for justice rather than reciprocal hate and violence.

S.A.

[svenskasfinx]

stellaarcana said:

I'm reposting the chart as a quote here just because I needed to point out that the ruler for the MC is in the 12th house conjunct Mercury ruler of the 2nd house of this chart and that Gemini was intercepted in the 10th house.. it really seems like some odd things will come to light about this event, or that things will stay hidden.. about matterials and about the event itself.. staying so far back into the 12th house.

what we do "see" is that the Sun, the ruler of the chart is in the 11th house, along with the Moon and Saturn. Due to the interceptions the 12 house ruler will also be the Sun, so it will bring things to light to the groups of people who happened to have been there. Then there is the 11th house ruler also in the 11th house..

this says to me there was a large group of people affected...

but when we look to "point the blame" or look for more information I see a YOD pointing directly to Uranus in the 7th house. A partner, an enemy? What then? I see also the ruler of the MC taking part in that Yod as well as Jupiter who has only partial rulership due to interception and thus is the Co-Ruler of the 8th house.

Jupiter being in the 2nd house and then co-ruling the 8th participating in the sextile between Venus the MC ruler in the 12th and the 2nd house ruler Mercury also in the 12th seems to talk much of "resources" and "colective resources" and all things hidden.

I may be on a wild goose chase but I see it as a deliberate targeting for the ecconomic centre that is London-

Being also that Venus is the 3rd
house ruler.. it could also express itself like this..

However there is Mars conjunct the NN in Aries.. it seems to say that events in this will play out in a way via "hidden powerful foreigners" I make a note, there have been many foreigners in London at that time, including of all people the Mayor of New York City. What odd timing! then there is that sextile exactly between Mars and Neptune.. Neptune being the co-ruler of the 8th house.... (something at 17 degrees Virgo would complete the Yod there.. perhaps there is an asteroid right now at that point?)

Since I have been in London recently and think in the terms of Neptune, there have been a number of high profile musical events as well as Live 8.. The timing in my eyes feels "oportunistic" as Jupiter would sugest, ( if it had been really as well planned as they say it was, I feel there would have been more of a contact between Mercury and Saturn as well as the precision of the 6th house,

The sixth house was ruled by Uranus and is also the ruler of the 7th house, I assume you could say that Saturn is the co-ruler, but the fact that Neptune is in this placement seems to say to me, it was sort of done in a round about way.. as though it was planned but not for any spacific day, but rather the time of year and time of day.. (other people keep on going on about a careful planning, to this I disagree due to the fact seeing where that bus was going, had it been where it should have been at the time it went off, it would have been an over kill of blasts to Kings Cross station both under ground and over ground as people were escaping the tunnels)

It says to me that the system there was vunerable in spite of CCTV cameras always watching the city in constant awareness (supposedly).

There were alot of quincuxes though, which states that maybe things were "off center" to beging with, and that there was too much of an awareness of that from those who may have benifited from it...maybe this was a job for hire.. with alot of 2nd house and Venus and 8th house..

Who can say?

These are my speculations from the chart and my own feelings I got being in the city only just more week and a half ago..

I'm not pointing fingers..(even though my politics certainly doesn't agree with countries taking part in illegal wars)..

I don't blame the system for "not protecting" the people.. (who is safe from this kind of event anyway?) or even targeting the people who were in opposition close to 50% with joining in with the Americans..This would not bring any sympathy but in fact Polarization.. so the main issue is who did it? and why did they do it?

It seems to me, that there is a possiblity it is about money rather than politics, although it seems Neptune in the mix with Mars may bring about "Religious Fanatics".. it seems more that the violence comes about due to a promise of gain of money.

Could it be the Olympic games were a trigger?

everything is mere speculation here with me.. so I will end my post since I am rather distressed by the situation.

take care all, and keep safe,

svenskasfinx

[stellaarcana]

svenskasfinx said:

However there is Mars conjunct the NN in Aries.. it seems to say that events in this will play out in a way via "hidden powerful foreigners" I make a note, there have been many foreigners in London at that time, including of all people the Mayor of New York City. What odd timing! then there is that sextile exactly between Mars and Neptune.. Neptune being the co-ruler of the 8th house.... (something at 17 degrees Virgo would complete the Yod there.. perhaps there is an asteroid right now at that point?)

svenskasfinx

Interesting insights there on the chart Svenskasfinx. Your comment above prompted me to checked ephemeris and Asteroid 1862 Apollo was at 17 degrees Virgo at the time.

From www.treehousemountain.com/html/keywords2.html

APOLLO: Being a slow learner—attraction of recurrent and familiar crises; going against the odds; “banging your head against a brick wall;” provocation; doing it again and again.

S.A.

[brenton]

It is a terrible incident, an attack to hurt as many civilians as possible. However the British involvement against the invasion of Iraq mostly encouraged the attack of London. The Leo rising chart with its ruler sun in Cancer in the 12th conjoin Moon in Cancer in the 12th shows the base goals behind the events. Subversive acts and secret terrorist organisations are ruled by the 12th and 8th houses. Not suprising we find both of these houses powerfully placed in the horoscope. Mars the natural co-ruler of the 8th found in both the 8th house and Aries shows a deep sense of resentment by powerful secretive organsisations that disliked British involvement and 'percieved' moral superioty over Middle Eastern Nations. Britain was a colonial conquer of the middle East in the past particulary of Iraq. Sun conjoin the Moon in Cnacer in the 12th reveals that terrorist group support was fuelled by the hatred of manipulation of Great Britain and her colonies in history. U.S.A is a former colony of Britian so is Australia are the two countires most involves in the "Coalition of the Willing". To them it is a coalition lead by their colonial leader Britain to assert their 'infidelic superiority in our homeland for our precious resource oil'. Oil is ruled by the 12th house, so the terrorists struck London with the intent of weaking the economies historically linked to British colonisation. Lets face the fact that Britains closest allies are Australia and the United States both formally colonies of Britain. So it is not just an attack on Britain but on all the colonial nations decended from her influence. The Terrorists saw London as the "King or Cheif" city of the Modern and historical western world. By attacking it the hoped of immersing fear, ecconomic problems and revenge for interfernce in Middle Eastern affairs. Strangelly the chart is very similar to that of Geoge Bush's natal chart. Coincedence or a link? What does everyone else think??

[stellaarcana]

I've just been listening to a radio interview with journalist/author Ahmed Rashid (author of "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia")

I don't have his exact words, but when questioned on the London attacks his response was along the lines that the attack was most likely made by British citizens with British passports who have no direct connection to AQ and are not under instruction from them directly but are a new wave of fundamentalist terrorists inspired by AQ ideals.

He said these people are most likely not visible in the Muslim community in Britain, most likely keeping themselves in the shadows, not visiting mosques etc. They have been working quietly behind the scenes and not likely to have used any technology such as mobile phones or internet to have planned the attack...hence the few leads as to the suspects. (I figure also why no intelligence organisations had any indication that it was going to happen)

I thought what he had to say was very interesting in relation to the chart. Pluto in the Mars/Pluto ruled 4th does seem to indicate that the terrorists are probably citizens (with the 4th being "home")

Also interesting was his comments regarding the perpetrators being low profile and behind the scenes fits with the Mercury/Venus conjunction in the 12th House.

S.A.

[svenskasfinx]

after reading the news this morning I'd have to wonder something:

"Were the "sucide bombers" under some kind of duress, were they forced to do this without even knowing what would happen?"

It strikes me odd still..I mean the ages and the life styles of the people said to be involved to NOT add up. Religion yes, ok, but not this.. and ISLAM does not mean or stand for "Jihad" (remember that the areas the bombs went off in such as "Edgeware Road" are areas full of Muslams and east indies immigrants ect, so why target them? I see something we will never get the full scale of in this-

I'm shocked because the profile of the people involved made me cry.. to imagine that one man would never see his daughter grow up, ect. Just sad...what next?

My heart goes out to everyone who has been effected and afflicted.. I don't just single those who have been said to have done this horrible act, but I do not see them being consious of what they were doing. Where in the chart though can confirm this?


take care,
svenskasfinx