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Post by majesticvenus on Dec 4, 2004 13:16:34 GMT
Hi Kim,
I am wanting some insight on what to expect when a stellium is in the composite chart...the stellium includes Pallas, Venus(in Libra), Sun, Juno, Adonis, Neptune, Mercury, and Vesta(in Scorpio).
The other stellium includes N. Node, Psyche, Uranus, Lilith(in Leo), Eros, and Pluto(in Virgo).
Both of these stellium seem to be pretty powerful and as a couple I feel we have to be all things to ourselves and to others. Nurturing, powerful, sexy, all-knowing, erotic, unusual partnership. That is the positive...the negatives are another story. What are you thoughts in general.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 5, 2004 1:30:32 GMT
Hello Majestic Venus!
This is an interesting question.
Stelliums in any chart, be they a grouping all of one sign, mixed signs but within orb of conjunction or even stellium by house add a FOCUS of energy and intention in the area of life they activate.
It means there is much going on and much to do.
The first stellium you describe in the composite chart, because it includes the Sun, tells us something about the purpose of the relationship. It is not something you can ignore. What you two are “about” becomes quite complex, enmeshed with the articulation of Pallas, the values and beauty of Venus, the commitment of Juno the rapture of Adonis, the mysticism of Neptune, the enunciation of Mercury and the devotion of Vesta!
Wow.
Just think about that for a moment…<br> And in the signs so linked to personal, socially significant, one-to-one relating and intimacy (Libra and Scorpio).
On one level it is beautiful, wants to be all things to all people, wants to create harmony and intensity and a sense of allure and erotic transformation…it is like a gateway into another realm…through the glass but darkly…<br> There is also room for enchantment (and deception) communication (and criticism) honesty (and lies). Like all energy, there are many ways to express. The vital thing is that IT DOES EXPRESS!
The stellium Leo/Virgo says something about what happens to others when you connect to them as a couple—sudden, eccentric and unexpected change and erotic transformation being at the top of the list. There is a strong destiny here, a strong impact on the world. You don’t just grow yourselves by being together—those near you do as well.
Does this make sense?
Who else has composite stelliums?
I find they often coincide with significant relationships of one kind or another!
Thanks for this. Good to see you.
Warmly, Kim
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Post by chrissymgreen on Dec 6, 2004 14:24:45 GMT
hey guys,
i'm not sure whether these qualify as actual stelliums, but in my composite with my virgo friend i have:
sun (sag 29°), venus (cap 0°) and vesta (cap 4°) conjunct in the 3rd
and:
moon, juno and ceres in the 5th mercury, saturn and eros in the 9th
these signs are involved: sag (sun, mars, neptune and NN), pisces (moon & ceres), cancer (mercury, saturn, eros), capricorn (venus and vesta), and libra (jupiter, uranus, pluto & AC).
i can definitely say i see the sun/venus/vesta in the 3rd highlighted in our connection. we talk all the time - never run out of things to say. and the sagittarian sun - that definitely fits. we travel together quite well, and adventure seems to permeate the air when we spend time together.
i think the moon in pisces fits, too. the connection is sometimes a bit emotional.
thanks for this thread!
sincerely, chrissy
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 6, 2004 21:30:13 GMT
Hi Chrissy,
Technically, a stellium consists of four or more planets in a sign (some say conjunct, some say just in that sign) or 4 or more planets contained in a house.
Certainly, 3 planets conjunct (even "out of sign" makes for added focus, added intensity, just as you describe.
[glow=red,2,300] “…we travel together quite well, and adventure seems to permeate the air when we spend time together.”<br>[/glow]
I love the way you have expressed this. It is so much reflective of a composite Sun in Sag in the third, with Venus and Vesta!
Thanks for that!
Warmly, Kim
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Post by Mira on Dec 18, 2004 9:49:32 GMT
Hello! maybe anybody can give me some help with this one...in the Composit...a stellium of the Sun, Venus, Mars, Mercury, Lilith BM...all conjunct in the 8th house...and all square Pluto... I would appreciate any input to this highly unusual, intense relationship! Thanks! Mira
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Post by sielou on Dec 18, 2004 18:45:58 GMT
This man that a felt this nearly instant attraction to, had his Eros on my true/north node 27 sag, in my ninth house in a tight orb. His late Aries descendant is conjuncting my early Taurus ascendant. And we have a MOST interesting composite with Jupiter at the end of the third house 21Ari, and this ALL in the forth house: Moon at 26Ari, Chiron at 26Ari, Sun at 28Ari, Pan at 28Ari, Tantalus at 7Taurus, Anteros at 1Taurus, Mercury at 9Taurus, Mars at 19Taurus, with many hard aspects to it (Saturn in sixth opposite ascendant, Uranus in tenth opposite the stellium in the forth). Pan trining Eros 12Cap (in the twelvth). Psyche 13Sco and Uranus 2Sco in the tenth house, opposing the stellium in the forth. Saturn 21Can and Sappho 17Can in the sixth opposite the ascendant. But there is also the vertex 4Leo and part of fortune 27Can opposing the ascendant 0Aqu (ruling planet opposing the stellium in the forth). Pluto 9Lib in the ninth house. North/true node 24Sco, Urania 6Sag and Neptune 11Sag in the eleventh house. Venus in the beginning of the third house 27Pis. But when this relationship most of the time was on the net, it is not clear to me how it would have survived outside of it in real life. The one thing that I know is that it is so hard forgetting the powerful, passionated, destined feeling that this encounter brought out of me. What can You say about ALL of this??? I am MOST interested in what You all have to say about this !! Thanks all in advance.
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 21, 2004 23:17:52 GMT
Hello Mira,
Welcome to the forum.
Please take a moment to join if you want to keep participating here.
The stellium you describe in the 8th house and square Pluto says something about the purpose and identity of the relationship. As a couple, it is important for you to work “under the surface”, exploring and researching the inner workings of any given project or goal.
It is not enough to skip across the surface and “smell the roses”. You have to plumb the depths in whatever you do together be they psychological depths, emotional depths or even physical (or financial)! It makes being together, no matter what you are like individually, more intense, more “edgey”.
Issues of risk, intimacy and emotional honesty come up, between each other and those you deal with as a couple. It’s a powerful composite energy, not for the faint of heart!
Does this make sense?
Thanks for you interest here.
Warmly, Kim
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 21, 2004 23:26:16 GMT
Hello Sielou, That does seem an intense composite. It is interesting how “cyber” relationships can run a very different course than a “real time/place” relationship. They are certainly no less an impact though! If you had one main question about an aspect of this chart/relationship, what would it be? Kim
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Post by sielou on Dec 22, 2004 0:27:05 GMT
I don´t believe that a cyber relationship at all Must run a different course than a ´real´ one. It was real... but mostly on the net. We met twice, a couple of days at the time. He had some serious problems with himself. If someone is interested... My birth date is 3 Feb 1974 0928 Stockholm, Sweden. And He was born on 4 July 1977 1400 in Visby, Sweden.
The main questions is... 1 The mighty stellium in the fourth (Aries) ...what does that mean? 2 The hard aspects from Uranus (Scorpio) and Saturn (Cancer) (two hard planets indeed!) ...how do these oppositions effect the stellium in the forth?
Thanks a bunch =).
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 22, 2004 11:17:54 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]I don´t believe that a cyber relationship at all Must run a different course than a ´real´ one. [/glow] Let me explain better what I meant. I didn’t mean to imply that cyber relationships were not real. They are, just as any long distance relationship or any “in person” relationship is. I meant they can run a different course from a “real time/place relationship” meaning they can be different from a relationship that unfolds in the same physical space at the same time. That’s all. When I said they can run a different course, I meant they can seem to live out in a much more intense way because there usually are very few distractions. When you speak (email, instant msg or cam) you usually don’t have too many other people participating. It’s not like going out to the movies with another couple, or meeting at the pub or even going out to dinner. On-line, the focus is heightened- one on one. I think it makes it “hyper real” sometimes…hence perhaps it lasts longs—or shorter because there is so much more focus-less distraction. Do you find this the case? I don’t have time to look at the composite for more than a squinch right now, but I was curious about your chart (I have two very close friends that are Feb 3 Aquarians!) The interceptions at your high latitude are just amazing! (That’s a whole other topic!) You and this guy do have a very intense 4th house. I think the hardest part would be feeling so vulnerable to each other. You could feel very comfortable together and then zap—that Uranus opposition disrupts everything. In a way, the Uranian energy is not too uncomfortable for either of you. He has the Sun trine Uranus in the natal, you have Moon trine Uranus in yours…and both you have your Moons trine in synastry trined by your Uranus conjunct the Descendant. A little electricity, unpredictability and zany surprise would be welcome…<br> Uranus is frequently outstanding in relationships that take place, at least in part, on-line. The sudden attraction seems to have something to do with it. It takes you by surprise. The separation can be as sudden too though and upsetting and disappointing. I think the security and safety the 4th house seeks would feel threatened by all things Uranian—sudden separations, sudden changes, sudden triangles even! The strong 4th in the composite suggests the need to ground your relationship in a home, a country, a psychic sanctuary. That you would experience great closeness on line and then suddenly you’d be “gone” from each other would be hard for that sun/Chiron/Moon/Jupiter to take. You needed to build something solid to surround and protect the relationship. Saturn off to the side in square to the stellium may have made that impossible or daunting at least. I think you would have had to work quite hard at finding expression for the freedom loving Uranus and the stable cautious Saturn. Does this make sense? Kim
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Post by geminigirl on Dec 27, 2004 21:32:45 GMT
I have a stellium in my composite with a friend of Moon, Sun, Venus, eros, mars, sappho, anteros and pan. They are spread out within the 4th and 5th houses. It is a very interesting composite chart. I can't really tell you the dynamics because we haven't spent much time together. I was hoping you could shed some light on this stellium. If nodes count as part of a stellium, then add the south node conjunct the moon
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 27, 2004 22:36:24 GMT
Hello Geminigirl, Welcome to the forum. Please take a moment to join and read the introduction. That stellium of major personal planets and relationship asteroids sounds very interesting. What is the degree spread? I always count the nodes, and in a composite chart, because there is a near and far midpoint, I count anything in the opposite sign that is in orb (10 degrees or so). What sign does this stellium fall in? More soon, Kim
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Post by formerlygeminigirl on Dec 28, 2004 1:50:25 GMT
Kim:
I love this website! I am a beginner and I am learning so much from you and the other members. I have been trying to register to become a member, but I keep getting an error message ( I had to use a name other than Geminigirl to post this reply) Any advice you can give as to what I may be doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. In answer to your question regarding the stellium, it starts in the 4th house in Aries at 3 degrees of the south node and conjuncts the moon at 5 deg., the Sun at 9 deg., Venus at 17 deg., Eros at 20 deg., then move into the 5th house in Taurus with Mars at 9 deg., Sappho at 10 deg. In the same house Anteros at 22 deg. conjuncts Pan at 23 deg. The north node is in Libra at 3 deg. conjunct Apollo. I hope that isn't too much information.
I appreciate your insight as this configuration seems kind of intense.
Thanks so much!
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Post by Kim Falconer on Dec 28, 2004 3:47:12 GMT
Hello Geminigirl, I have "Geminigirl" listed as a new member, so you have successfully joined up. Are you using the correct password without any added spaces?
If you can't log on with the password you have, let me know and I will email you a new password to try.
I don't know why some members are having such troubles, but you aren't the first! If you only use one computer, I recommend you choose the "log-on-automatically" option. That should do the trick.
As to your stellium in the composite, the S. Node/Mo/Su/Ve/Er in Aries constitutes one stellium. (A stellium is 4 or more planets/point in one house and/or one sign.
The Mars/Sappho/Anteros/Pan all in the 5th and all in Taurus WOULD constitute another stellium although I tend not to allow the asteroids to “count up” for this configuration. This is because there are thousands of asteroids and if we plotted them all we would have a stellium in ever DEGREE in every sign! Too much of everything would actually mean nothing…do you see?
So I would look mainly at the first stellium in Aries because it qualifies even without Eros, though I would consider Eros as well.
I get the feeling of this stellium that the two of you as a couple, if you do develop the relationship, would have a kind of united purpose and drive. There is a feeling of alignment with that Sun/Moon together and the forward thrust of Aries wants to take it somewhere.
The S. Node says there is something familiar and perhaps traditional about you being together. It’s like you unite to create some kind of compatible family background. You may both feel very “at home” in this relationship. It would bode well, baring harsher requirements from other planets, for domestic compatibility or even productivity. I think you would keep the erotic and sensual side of your relationship very much “behind closed doors”.
Do you see how this works?
Others may have trouble understanding what glues you two together (stellium in the hidden 4th house) thought there is much there to bind you. I think mutual goals, especially for life style, would be crucial!
Let me know how this fits, and how you go signing in.
Thanks for the question. Warmly, Kim
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Post by aquariusrising2 on Dec 28, 2004 15:31:52 GMT
Kim:
Thanks for your reply. I am now registered under "Aquariusrising". I couldn't get in under "Geminigirl" so I re-registered. Your reply definetly made sense to me as there is a very "familiar feeling" with this person. The 4th house stellium in Aries is both trined by Jupiter in Sag (6 deg from ascendant) in the 12th house, and squared by Saturn in Cap. in the 1st house. This composite has 2 kites, a yod and a t-square, all consisting of planets only. There is a rather compelling feeling to this and I am grateful for your insight.
Thanks!!
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