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Post by agape on May 22, 2005 22:59:48 GMT
Hi Kim and all I finally succeeded in posting on your forum Kim....where are the fireworks! Its good to be back here, you have changed it and it looks amazing now. I was Urania, remember? What is best way to interpret name asteroids in the houses of a partner. For example if your name asteroid falls in the others first house, does this mean there is a recognition, identification of self with other, that the name asteroid person is a part of who you are, how you see yourself or what? Sorry not making sense. For instance at least in the 7th house you can say that the house person sees the asteroid person as a significant other...I find it a little difficult to interpret this placement in the first house. I understand aspects to the planets and angles play a major role but just curious how to interpret 1st house synastry. I missed you Kim and looking forward to getting to know you all Blessings Agape
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Post by Kim Falconer on May 23, 2005 2:01:22 GMT
Welcome Agape! I do remember you, as Urania, way back when! It's good to have you back! What have you been up to? I know these 'name asteroids' can get confusing. The name asteroids can be tricky do delineate. I see them as ‘red flags’ (I’m sure we have a thread on this somewhere but I can’t seem to find it in the search). A name asteroid is like a little button that gets pushed when it is awakened and people with that ‘name’ seem to be the ones that awaken it. If someone has your name asteroid in close conjunction to a personal planet, Sun to Mars, you are going to feel an ‘activation’ of that planet and what that planet represents when they are around you. People are like permanent transits and when a person’s name is in your vicinity, it wakes up whatever it transits, just like a planet might. Here’s an example. I have the asteroid Sean exactly conjunct my Venus in my natal chart at 0 Cancer (so it’s an Aries point too). When ever someone with that name comes into my life, I take an instant liking to them. I get warm and soft and caring---protective. Lucky for my little sister her name is Sean! I have the asteroid Jason conjunct my sun in Gemini and I do have a lot of Jason’s in my life. Unfortunately for those guys, being around them or hearing from them makes me want to write, work, and “do my Gemini thing…(I think some of them wish their name was Sean!) You get the Idea. I’m not certain how significant house placements are if there is not conjunction or perhaps opposition to a personal planet or midpoint. We have EVERY body’s name somewhere in our chats! Some of those are just going to be lost in the sea. If there is a connection though, the activities of that house may link to the person’s name. If it falls in the 1st house, they may instil a feeling of will and self-direction. If in the 3rd, there might be a feeling to connect through the written or spoken work. They activate your mind! In the 6th, you get busy! In the 10th, like my Jason’s, you get ambition, “Hi. Don’t bug me. I’m terribly busy and important!” In the 12th, you might associate them with something much softer than the 10th, more mystical…<br> Is this what you mean? It sure is nice to have you on the forum. Everybody, this is Agape! She’s been around for ages and has some terrific insights! Warmly, Kim
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Post by Kim Falconer on May 23, 2005 2:07:17 GMT
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Post by agape on May 23, 2005 13:42:18 GMT
Hello Kim and thanks for the links I just had my Solar Return so I know what you mean Yes you are right name asteroids will activate with an aspect. And yes in his chart my 2 name asteroids conjunct his Snode and contact his MC/IC axis too. The one also trines his Neptune, sextiles his Sun....yeah there are contacts....its just the first house relationship I cant grasp. Now, in my natal chart, my one name asteroid is exactly conjunct my Eros and my Vesta and in turn this stellium conjuncts his Ascendant to the degree (in 1st House) So my Eros and name asteroid activate his erotic side every time he is with me?! You know I couldnt help noticing that AquariusRising has a similar contact except with her Venus on her partner's Asc.....hey AR, I have Aquarius Rising too! Nice to meet you! So Kim you know who this guy is? Remember way back when we were both trying to understand the Vertex a little better...this is the Saturn conjunct my Vertex guy...yep still same love story ;D , progressing yes, at speed of Light....well actually more like speed of tortoise...so how does the story go....the tortois wins the race and not the hare, right, LOL! Well it is Saturn right and we have the blessing of having Saturn conjunct our Composite Ascendent too You have so many wonderful threads here, I will navigate and read and post there too. By the way your Jason asteroid conjunct your Sun....you know the story of Jason and the Argonauts? The hero who accomplished impossible tasks and was favoured by Hera! Look at what you accomplished with this forum...congratulations you deserve the best. Everyone here I am sure already knows it but Kim is really a beautiful person and true teacher. So back to asteroids, yes my natal name asteroid conjuncts my Eros and his Asc and his natal name asteroid conj my Venus Right now looking at his first house with this stellium we also have transit Saturn going over his Snode, his natal placement of my name asteroid so I will let you know what happens! Hug for now Agape
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Post by aquariusrising2 on May 23, 2005 23:27:25 GMT
Hi Agape! Nice to meet you too! Name asteroids are really uncanny. Sounds like you and this person have some pretty profound contacts. As far as first house connections, I hope maybe I can shed some light here. As you noted there are some interesting name asteroid contacts with a person I am interested in, specifically involved with the 1st house. My name asteroid is conjunct his Ascendant, his name asteroid is conjunct my Ascendant and his own Venus/IC. Of course, I can't speak for him, but his influence on me, is kind of "in your face." Like he's saying "here I am, notice me". I feel the best part of me when I'm around him, social, warm and fuzzy, familiar (the Venus/IC). Or, sometimes I kinda feel like I pick up his personality traits, or I can't see me, without seeing him. (or maybe our personalities are similar, it is hard to differerntiate) I think that is all first house stuff. Do you feel any of these things with your connection?? I defer to what Kim may say here, but this is my experience with name asteroids in the first house. Oh, here is an interesting exercise. Check out your name asteroids in the charts of people close to you and see where they come up. With the pariticular man I am referring to above, our name asteroides come up conjunct (almost exact) in my best friends chart and in her first house. Just something fun to look at. Not sure of the significance. Just really interesting. I think people that are signigicant to us will be somehow important to those who love us. By the way, you are so right. Kim is a great teacher and a wonderful person. I've learned a great deal from her As a matter of fact this forum is such a great place to learn and meet new and interesting friends! Talk to ya soon A.R.
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Post by agape on May 24, 2005 18:55:23 GMT
Hey there AR, Wow sounds like you and your guy give each other the fuzzies! Well yes I have played with name asteroids in the past and yes it was fun to see how our name asteroids showed up in significant spots in my loved ones charts. For instance in my mom's chart my name is in her 5th and his name is in her 11th! So, 5th is her child and 11th is the partner of her child (7th derivative)! In your case I would say if you are her best friend, sometimes 7th will show very close intimate other which could be your best friend and in this case you being her best buddy the 7th becomes your first and her first becomes your 7th....soooo if his name asteroid falls in there together with yours, might show how you view the two of you, with him as your partner! What do you think? Now in our case with my natal name asteroid conj my Eros and Vesta on his Ascendent exactly...yes I know he feels very drawn to me passionately. I also have my Venus in his 10th house conjunct his natal name so he is aware of me there too, right? I know Kim is going to say that whenever transits or progressions activate those positions if say its a harsher transit then however he reacts to his natal planets aspecting these positions then that is how he will react to me Now you will find this interesting...in my natal chart his name asteroid sits in my 9th house. In my relocated chart his asteroid moves to my 1st house! Mars/Pluto are the rulers of his name asteroid in my chart. Mars sits in relocated 7th and Pluto in 11th...we are best friends too, we met as friends first. You might want to check what rules your name asteroids and where those rulers are in your charts and his. So that the progressions and transits etc that might not show much activity with just the asteroie name...you may see more of the story unfolding when you check out the connections to the rulers. I am with you on feeling as if you identify very closely with him. I mean that stellium I have on his Ascendent conjuncts his Venus too and sometimes I feel that when I am too in his face he pulls away and then when I pull away he pulls me back in, as if he can't be too long without my energy around him....I mean you and I are talking about the Asc/Desc axis! For you if his Venus/IC is on your Asc then of course you will feel cozy with him....aahhhhhh, snuggles Gotta run now but will check in a little later and chat some more. Agape
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Post by aquariusrising on May 31, 2005 0:38:53 GMT
Hi Agape,
I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner. I hadn't thought about checking the rulers of the name asteroids. The Ruler of my name in his chart would be Venus (his chart ruler) and His name in my chart would be Mercury (ruler of my sun). Interestingly enough we have many Venus/Merc connections, especially draconically. Fascinating how these name asteroids work. Sounds like that stellium connection you have is pretty intense. I have found anything dealing with the ASC/DESC axis is captivating. Even compelling.
Getting back to the name asteroids in loved ones charts. I hadn't thought about the derivatives. This is interesting and I will give it thought. What I find fascinating in the case of my best friend is that it was she who facilitated our meeting. Another interesting point is that our two name asteroids fall conjunct in her 1st house, conjunct my Vertex/Pluto, conjunct his Karma/Pluto. I find it fascinating when you start comparing numerous charts and see crazy connections. I always look for name asteroids. Even the transiting name asteroids are uncanny. Check out some of the transits sometime.
Anyhow, I am enjoying this thread!!!
Talk to ya soon
A.R.
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Post by Amoroso on May 31, 2005 14:04:43 GMT
Yes, the transiting name asteroids are amazing!
At the time I sent C. "the letter," transiting Sappho was exactly conjunct my name asteroid, about to transit my natal Psyche/his Draco Psyche exact conjunction, which opposes our composite Eros!!!!
And if that weren't enough, his transiting first name asteroid was conjunct transiting Venus, approaching within a few degrees our Sun/Moon conjunction!
Amoroso
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Post by Kelly C on Feb 4, 2006 20:14:18 GMT
Hi Forum,
I recently noticed that when my mom signed her will and trust, her name asteroid was exactly transiting my natal Jupiter. I didn't know until after the appointment.
Kelly
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Post by Kelly C on Feb 14, 2006 18:06:20 GMT
Hi Forum,
What orb does one use for a natal asteroid planet conjunction or natal asteroid node conjunction? A Mercedes salesman has a north node Mercedes conjunction with a 6 degree orb. By the way, I didn't register because my code didn't make it into my email box.
Kelly
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Post by Amoroso on Feb 14, 2006 18:42:37 GMT
Hi Kelly,
Kim often says "if it acts like a conjunction is probably is a conjunction."
Some sources say to keep orbs with asteroids very tight, and obviously, the tighter the orb, the stronger the energy. From my experience, though, asteroids and planets can touch each other with a 6 degree orb and even wider. Sometimes it just takes longer for those energies to ignite.
My two cents! Amoroso
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Post by Kelly C on Feb 14, 2006 20:34:03 GMT
Hi Amorosa,
That makes sense.
Thanks,
Kelly
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Post by edirbyrreg on Feb 19, 2006 20:41:19 GMT
Hello all! I must include Chiron, Pluto, Neptune and the nodes, as well as declination in terms of name asteroid connections. The man I am currently interested in has both of his names, first and last, conjunct my Chiron and parallel/contraparallel my Pluto, respectively. In his chart, my first name contraparallels his Chiron and parallels his north node. My nickname conjuncts his Neptune. I believe, though these are "outer planets" that Pluto, the planet of obsession, as well as Neptune, Chiron and the nodes, all extremely sensitive by their very natures, should not be excluded simply because they are not in our immediate state of awareness. I agree that the harder aspects are more powerful. But if you have a trine, sextile, etc. check the declination as the bodies may parallel or contraparallel and this expands the connection. Hope this helps!
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 19, 2006 22:04:45 GMT
Thanks Edirbyrreg, I agree it is important to note the declinations, and consider the contacts to outer planets. It's just that the motion of those planets are so slow that you have a much broader contact --everyone born the same year will have Pluto within a few degrees of each other etc--I would then look to see where Pluto (or the outer planet or node involved) is placed and how it links back to the personal planets, particularly through Saturn (the Ring past not. Saturn is the 'way in' for the outer planets and his aspects to them and the inner bodies can say a lot to how and where and why these name asteroid connections affect us. I would keep orbs tight. Declinations within one degree. Kim
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Post by edirbyrreg on Feb 21, 2006 21:37:37 GMT
I had not thought of rulerships and Saturn when it comes to asteroids but I am interested. I'm supposing this to mean that if asteroid A is conjunct someone's Uranus in Leo then look to the Sun as well in terms of that asteroid's effect? And in terms of Saturn... look to see how Saturn links to the asteroid through house, rulership, aspect, etc. ? Let me know if I am way off here. Thanks Kim!
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