Eros into Gemini

[AquarianEssence]

I second that jk. My man is 12 years my junior, we had a child when I was 47 and I'm a firm believer that age in a state of mind. Obviously this person is stuck in a time warp.

[jk]

Thanks to bith of you and for the hugs Gemstar

I think it's a reflection of many of his fears.

I was reading Kim's Eros in Gemini report and what she said about Eros transiting Saturn and it seemed relelvent to this dilemma. He actually said this bang on the transit, the very eve of the exact conjunction. It was the night before my son's 10th birthday and i was already thinking about my age and the fact that i had wanted more children when i had my son.

He actually has also said that he doesnt want to settle down either. He's frightened of commitment abut also knows that he has a desire to be close to somebody. He sees his peer group settling down one by one and it unsettles him tremendously so frightened of losing his independence and putting all his (emotional) eggs in one basket.

I also think that he's looking for reasons to end the relationship, needs an excuse to run away . I'm not sure that the children issue is really the main concern here. I had told him when we met that i wasn't willing to have anymore children but a couple of weeks ago we both said that we wanted to live together in the future and that i would be happy to reconsider that descision.

Anyway, he came round the next day and i told him i packed up his stuff ready for him and he's was pretty shocked, said he loved me and that he didn't want it to end. Not sure what to believe anymore mind

I think that Saturn transiting his south node opp Chiron transiting his North node is a big issue here too.

[gemstar]

Hey jk...it is TIME to decide what YOU want from all of this and your future. Do not let the tail wag the dog.

Of course he loves you, however, it seems to have limitations. Is that the kind of love you desire? Because that seems like the kind he has to offer. LIMITED.

So yes, Saturn transiting his nodal axis is about restrictions....facing responsibilties and letting go of situations which need to be let go. Chiron transiting conjunct NNode seems to bring up lots of 'issues and pains' of the past which must be reconciled before heading forward to a better future.

This is his journey to live....and you need to know what YOUR own journey entails. What you desire and what you strive towards in your future. Be clear on what you want first and then you can make compromises from there. Just do not compromise too much of yourself and life goals in order to be with someone. The same goes for him.

Good for you on the packing job....sometimes what someone says is not always what they want. Additionally, you must be wary of his words at this time as he is not wanting to hurt you...and also unsure of his own path. Stand tall for yourself.

Know yourself and your worth....the rest will work itself out.
One way or another.....for the BEST!

You are doing fine...Keep it up!!

Hugs-
GemStar

[jk]

Thanks GemStar,

Am getting that clear in my head now . Uranus is really stirring up my t-square now and it's all about relationships and the fear and pain that i have with regard to them.

I'm feeling pretty strong now. Learning to let go ;D

[jk]

With Eros in conjunction to Isis, there can be a reunion with 'divine love', a feeling of any of the thematic images of Osiris and Isis: love, union, separation, dismemberment, longing, searching, and creative outcomes (Horus).

Eros and Isis where at 15 deg Gem. Conjunct my Moon NN and square loads of other stuff and Sextile my Venus/Sun

Plenty of separation and longing!!!


3361 Orpheus will be opposite Eros on the 13th of July at 18 degrees of Gemini. Consider now what was activated at the conjunction in early January this year at 9 Aquarius.

Well this is quite a surprise. I hadn’t checked before but I have Eros and Orpheus cnjnct natally very near this degree. Eros 16 Aqu and at Orpheus at 19. At this time b/f and I where becoming clear we wanted to be together.

He had recently lost his phone and I couldn’t get hold of him. He couldn’t phone me (as my number was on his lost phone) and when he came round to see me I was out, so he eventually went home, wrote me a letter then came back, by which time I was home. We were both relieved to realise that that the other wasn’t backing off. It was cnjnct his NN at 12 and Mars at 16.

Of all the days for them to be coming into play again this is the day he is coming to visit me and my son.

Obviously we haven’t seen each other since we have separated but tomorrow he his coming to vist. We agreed he should see my son and he says there are things we need to talk about. (I don't think i really need to go over the whys and wherefores again, or being told he still loves me but..... )

So now that there is an opposition we are in an opposite situation!

At 18 deg this is still near my NN/Moon etc., Orpheus on my south and both sqauring my Chiron at 20 Pisces. The only thing he has near by natally is Juno at 19 Virgo being in a square and opp my Chiron.

With Juno at 17 Leo now it is opp his Mars and my Eros, having just gone over his SN. hangin near the opposite degree to when the two where conjunct.

That’s all quite dynamic. If you can make sense of that, drop me a note 'cos i'm floored.

And, no, i'm not hanging on sisters, just more jaw-dropping astrology to try to comprehend. Why on earth did we pick tomorrow as the best day to do this!!

[Kim Falconer]

Why on earth, indeed!

Thank you, jk, for highlighting these details against the contacts to Isis and Orpheus.

All our work with asteroids is quite exploratory and your observations (and feelings) add so much. I have Mercury at 18 Gemini, and Moon at 10 Aquarius, so I'm tuning in to the next 24 hours to see what connections I can make with Orpheus and my recent experiences...

I'll come back to this soon.

Kim

[jk]

Mmmmm,

Orpheus and transformation?

Ex talked most the evening about the changes he wanted to make in his life. We both know a relationship is not going to happen while he tackles all this, therefore it's better he is single. Both of us reconciled to that if nothing else. The friendship bit is harder to reconcile. Its nearly always me who wants to remain friends at the end of something but this time i'm not sure i can do it.

Then by end of eve ex has a blinding revelation. Leaving me was repeating old patterns; bailing out when he hits a rocky patch. He'd been selfish and hasty. He was aware that he'd taken the p*ss somewhat and that he didn't want to muck me about but now, having talked, he was suddenly undecided about the whole thing.

Mmmmmm , indeed I wasn't expecting that.


I'm quite interested in the themes that i have encountered here.

The conjunction, with circumstances causing an accidental separation (lost phones and numbers) and then happily reunited with a sense of clarity that being together was what we wanted,

The opposition with the intentional separation and then sudden indescision and lack of clarity, a desire to be together but circumstances requiring that we are not.


Does anybody else have any experiences with regard to this conjunction and opposition?

[Kim Falconer]

Hi jk,

I can see you are having deep and rich experiences that coincide with this transit. It does ring of Isis and Orpheus in results (separations, re-thinking, revelations, longing? etc)

My experience, (if it was linked to the transit at all) was much less dramatic but it did make me feel....something....A man I'm attracted to asked me for a friends number so he could ask her out...ba bomb.....So...it wasn't major, we are friends...just a little Mercury jolt to my ego I think! (my Me 18 ge)...

Anyone else?

Kim

[jk]

I'm not sure how to interpret this one!

Medusa in my natal chart is 9 deg pisces, exact opposite my Mars and tied up in the t-square (next week i have a Mars return ) so i'm goindg to ponder what that means.

Anyway more synchronisity with the man and Eros. On the eve of 21st with Eros and Medusa in opposition b/f calls me and asks to meet. As we talked he realised that he has missed me tremendously, relaises how much i mean to him and we have agreed to re-start the relationship. Slowly and with consideration.

Medusa in our composite is 23 Aquarius, trined by this current transit of Eros and sextiled by Medusa.

His Medusa is conjunct my Juno, both being transitied by Chiron.

Funny old world.

[Juliet]

Hi JK!! Have been thinking of you and wanted to ask how you are doing, missed this thread completely! Funny old world and synchronicity indeed...

I'm starting to believe relationships follow their own course.
How is your Davidson activated by these transits??

Love, Juliet

[jk]

Hi Juliet,

I'm doing realy well, thanks for asking. I drunk a load of wine, had a good healthy howl and then spent the last week or so consciously letting go of my emotional attachment to him and though it was hard (he lives just a few mins from my home & i saw him out and about) i was really just getting on with things. Huge learning curve there. I usually beat my chest and get trapped in the woe is me mode!

I'm unfamilair with the davidson charts so would like to find out more about the significance of them but i checked in astro.com and found..... da da daaaaa! Mercury is 25 Gemini - with Eros sitting on it that night. I guess that's significant?

To be honest, i am happy that he has asked to try again and it feels very right but the time spent detaching myself from him means i'm in no mood to rush in arms open and eyes shut, a lot has been said over the last month so a lot needs to be addressed.

It's a mercury in Gemini thing... I guess

Sabian Symbol for 25 Gemini:

A gardener, with all of a mother’s care for her child, is trimming a magnificent row of tropical palms.

Mmmmm, I'll have to check my book for more when i get home.



I'm off for a 6 week break now and won't be near a computer much so will not get much chance to drop in here very much (if at all)

Happy Summer to all,

Jo x

[Juliet]

Good for you! Happy Summer too, if you still read this. The wonderful thing about Davidson charts is you can set it up, then give in the found data in the 'birt data entry' as if it was a person. And then you can do transits, progressions, synastry, anything.
Love to you, and Mercury-Eros seems to be doing it's job!
J

[samina]

This thread inspired so many different thoughts whilst reading it, I don't what to comment on first!

AE, you are a veritable font of herbological info, which I always enjoy taking in! And I agree absolutely -- there is an enormous spider's web spanning the planet of women who are healing & shifting their sexual energy. Intense stuff while it's happening; wildly fabulous when it's released and in full throttle forward!

I think there's certainly a lot to the question posed on that tape you were listening to: "What if your greatest fear were your most forgotten love? What is your greatest fear?..."

Makes me think back to when I was much younger and so painfully shy & fearful about dancing. Being on a dance floor was just terribly traumatic for me; I would just seize up in fear and didn't know what to do. I could feel so much inside of me that wanted expression, but I didn't know what to do with it. So much energy was trapped, trapped, trapped. It always felt tied up with my inhibited sexual energy, too -- like 3rdhouse, I have a natal 5th-house Saturn.

But decades--and a lot of inner work--later, dancing has taken the center place in my life, and it's absolutely my greatest love, that feeling of movement & rhythm & emotion & connection (with both myself & with someone else) & ecstatic joy. So much pleasure. Is it dancing or is it sex or is it dancing or is it sex? LOL I just know it's LIFE, life in action, and I thank my lucky stars that I faced my fears so that I could discover so much joy & vitality! And still, the unfolding continues...

But back to the beginning point of this topic... Eros in Gemini crossed my natal Gemini Mercury, Mars, & Venus, and now sits neatly, with Lust, on top of my VCancer Sun, where they're grabbing hands as they waltz across my North Node toward my Midheaven. On August 9th, Eros will return to its natal 10th-house place & Lust will sit on my Midheaven.

However the details break down, it all amounts to so much passionate energy!!! My whole nervous systems feels like it's being re-wired to handle so much more frequency than I could manage just a year ago.

I have to say, I am in love, love, LOVE with Eros's energy right now!
Here's to Eros in Gemini!

Samina

[samina]

Orpheus, huh... I haven't looked into that asteroid's role at all in my own chart.

Is there a thread on that, Jade?

I see in my natal chart that Orpheus adds its energy to an already highly energized configuration: it's conjunct my Taurus Jupiter, and opposing my 2nd house Neptune, Pallas, Juno, and Moon.

I sense a wave of Orpheus internet-reading coming on!
Sami