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Post by pam on Oct 25, 2009 19:34:58 GMT
Hi Xihp,
Your question is very simple but the answer is very complicated. We don't know person A or person B, so it is hard to say. What do you know about these two people and their charts? So much depends on the signs these planets are in and whether or not these planets are aspected by other planets in such a way as to assist in expressing or inhibit the expression of the energy involved. We'd also have to know the sun signs involved and the ages of these people, and their current relationship. For example, My Saturn in Sag conjuncts my son's ascendent. That expresses differently and is experienced differently than if the same contact existed between my boyfriend and myself or even between my husband and myself. It is my job to restrict and guide my son, to set limits and parameters of his behavior. Not the same energy as with an adult.
My own personal experience is that we haunt these boards looking for answers (or really, the answers we want) when we feel frustrated and perplexed by something that it going on in our lives. I know I sure do.
Write back and give up some more information. It will help in giving you an answer that is usable.
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Post by pam on Oct 25, 2009 20:07:58 GMT
Hi Xihp,
No, that's not really enough to go on. Can you give us some background on these folks? If you don't want to use names, just give them nicknames. Are these real people who actually interact? Is this a case of secret love? Is this a celebrity and a fan? Is it a crush and/or secret admirer? All of that makes a difference in the accuracy of the answer. And it would help if you posted charts. Just take off the names. In addition, do a little research and give us an analysis of what YOU think. take a little time.
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Post by Aphrodite on Oct 28, 2009 23:31:13 GMT
I don't have time to really read these charts, but I did notice a couple of things right away.
First, B & C's Venus/Mars conjunction is over 8 degrees of separation, so not strong at all. They also share an EXACT Venus square Venus and Mars contraparallel (opposition) Mars. In the composite chart they have and EXACT Sun/Saturn conjunction, inconjunct (150 degrees) the Moon. That's a lot of water thrown on that little fire. Eros opposes the Moon and is more than 14 degrees from a trine to Psyche. So that is not much help. Also, there were several other aspects that lead me to believe that these two are basically close friends or could be, if given enough time. They share a lot of talk (which Venus in Gemini loves) and can work together. I think these two could tell each other their troubles and lean on one another in times of crisis. But it seems to be more of an emotional connection than a physical one.
I'm betting there is even a familial feel to the relationship, brotherly/sisterly or perhaps even parental toward each other. Very comforting, especially to her. She is a Cancer (emotional) Sun with a retrograde (inwardly directed) Venus in an air (mental) sign. Her Venus is parallel Mercury (mental) and closely conjunct Ceres (definitely not physical/sexual!). Most importantly, her Venus is square Saturn. I'm not getting the feeling that she is on the prowl! This means she probably feels comfortable with this guy precisely because he does not push himself on her sexually. He most likely thinks very highly of her, beyond any sexual attraction and that is why she keeps him around. He'd be history otherwise.
Composite of A and C looks strong at first glance. Classic Sun trine Moon. Venus loosely conjunct the Sun/Saturn midpoint, and conjunct Sun and Mercury, and trine Neptune (close aspect) and Vesta, sextile Pluto and parallel Juno, and contraparallel Mars. Sun and Mercury are parallel Saturn.
I hope I got all this straight. It is easier to keep straight when at least one of the parties has a real name or alias. No way to hurry. This took an hour and I didn't even really get into it. Your Saturn conjunct my Sun is making me do work! LOL
I'm out of time. Toodles....
Aphrodite
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Post by Aphrodite on Oct 29, 2009 18:41:01 GMT
WOAH!!!  You just came in and Blew me Away with all of that. This interpretation is AMAZING!  Speaking with them earlier today confirms much of what you describe. Astrology is something else! Aphrodite, you are incredible. ;D Okay, let's give them aliases. We will call (A) Vincent. Call (B) Ronnie. Call (C) Toni One thing I have learned so far from this is that I am most certainly a novice. It is just so fascinating how a great astrologer, such as yourself, can read the situation far better than one who actually observes it directly. All that you said is 100% DEAD ON!  Hopefully those names will make it easier for you. I mostly run synastry charts, but not so clear on the proper reading of Composite Charts.  When you have time, I do hope that you can explain a little more. I am on the edge of my seat, bursting with anticipation, as I wait to see how accurate your interpretation will be. It's mind boggling! Errrr, ok... Thanks. I think I'll keep my day job, though. I'm not getting paid for this. LOL Speaking of getting paid... Have you considered working with a professional astrologer? I think you would find it very beneficial. Vincent, Ronnie and Toni have all known one another for almost 5 years. Ronnie and Toni spent more time together from the start because of circumstances at work. Vincent never developed an interest in Toni until maybe 3 years ago, although Toni has confessed that she secretly had a crush on Vincent from the start, but was too shy to say so. It was only through a mutual friend that she was able to get Vincent to recognize her in this way. In that time, before the acknowledgment by Vincent, there seems to have been something that has occurred, some crossing of the friendship line somewhere, likely due to the comfort developed between them as you have mentioned. This is highly probable, as each has been an emotional support for the other in times of need. Unconscious body language reveals the discomfort associated with guilt, or shame, and the two of them display this, especially when all three are in close proximity to one another. Really? Guilt or shame? Well, perhaps. However, I think you would be surprised at the real cause. Then again, maybe not.  Remember, talk is cheap and that is real currency between them. Thanks to Saturn and Uranus, it has been a trying year for many Virgo influenced folks and all three of you have an abundance of Virgo energy. In fact, Saturn is just completing the final pass over your Sun/Pluto conjunction. Do you really know what is going on between them or are you imposing your own power needs, insecurities, indecision and confusion on them or amplifying these same traits in one of both of them? It is time now to start thinking positively. YOU, more than most folks, HAVE the ability to wield REAL POWER in this world. You have the power to create or destroy anything you want, including yourself or those you love. It is time you begin to understand this. Whatever you put out in the world comes right back to you. Therefore, it all begins with you! Toni says that it would feel weird to be involved with Ronnie in such a way, that she doesn't see him like that, as you have said. Ronnie says that he has never seen Toni outside of work and has never attempted to approach her in any romantic or sexual fashion, as you have said. I believe them both, 100%. Maybe this is the case, but Vincent ;D is not buying it, not completely. Something is not right. The eyes are the windows to the soul, and they never lie. Every effect has a cause and something has to be causing the discomfort that is witnessed within them. Sure, but can't you think of other reasons that would cause this? Take a closer look at your relationship with Ronnie and at your charts. The chart interactions are powerful and compelling. Knowing that he is close friends with Toni, how do you think he is using the energy between you? How are you directing your energy toward him? Using what you learn from your study, what reaction would you reasonably expect from him to you and from him to Toni? How would you expect Toni to respond to all this? Be sure to consider her role in your relationship with Ronnie. Vincent definitely believes that they have crossed the line at some point, at least once. If so, it doesn't change anything between Vincent and Toni now, Really? And how are things between you and Toni now? What are your intentions? Are you planning to marry her? You say you have been with her for three years. Where are you going with her? Where do you want to go? ...besides, Ronnie is a great guy. I agree, he's a great guy. In fact, I'm pretty impressed with all three of you. You are all hardworking, productive and POWERFUL people with unlimited potential to make a positive impact on this world. I should have the answer within a week, but maybe astrology could beat me to it. What do you think Aphrodite? What do you think? Take your time. Starlight and blessings to ALL, Aphrodite |
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You just came in and Blew me Away with all of that. This interpretation is AMAZING! 
Speaking with them earlier today confirms much of what you describe. Astrology is something else! Aphrodite, you are incredible. ;D Okay, let's give them aliases. We will call (A) Vincent. Call (B) Ronnie. Call (C) Toni
When you have time, I do hope that you can explain a little more. I am on the edge of my seat, bursting with anticipation, as I wait to see how accurate your interpretation will be. It's mind boggling!