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Post by ariesmoon on Jan 18, 2009 21:21:33 GMT
Are there any early Cancerians out there going through this one? This has been my lot over the weekend - a recurrence (with a vengeance) of a neuralgia problem I thought had gone away. And an emerging wisdom tooth as well, which has made the left side of my face swell up. And tears - they can't come out fast enough. I'm in the calm before another storm I think! Pluto is a couple of degrees away from opposing my 4 Cancer Sun. Pluto in Capricorn (teeth) in the 8th (deep-rooted issues - as if Pluto wasn't deep-rooted enough without transiting through the 8th as well!). The pain of neuralgia is excrutiating and I'm normally pretty stoic with regard to pain but this weekend I have howled as if someone was running a hot knife through me. Whilst I'm crying, I'm conscious of it not being just about the physical pain - almost as if it's about everything that's ever caused me pain or made me angry. I've been thumping pillows, cushions, hitting it out. And when I stop crying, the physical pain is gone again. That comment about my being "stoic" is very telling - Pluto doesn't want me to be, it wants me to be authentic, not hold back because others may not like such a visceral emotional display. So perhaps I've manifested such a painful condition to provoke the tears. People who love me would find this level of crying hugely distressing, which is more than likely why I've held so much of it in before. But it doesn't distress me, I know why it's happening. I've had one episode like this - about a year ago - so it's clear that more "clearing out" is needed. Oddly enough - or not - both times above when I typed "rooted" -and again just then - it came out "rotted"!
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Post by ariesmoon on Jan 19, 2009 14:15:44 GMT
An addition to this, I've been reading Pluto in the 5th from Kim's "Astrology and Aptitude" and one quote really hit me - "through the descent, the artist and lover can be reborn". Pluto in Capricorn, as well as moving to oppose my Sun, is also moving into a trine with its natal position at 7 Virgo 54.
What I'm going through - it started about a year ago - feels like shedding a skin and exposing raw flesh underneath. I saw into some dark spaces over the weekend - I was literally begging the pain to go away over several hours, thinking over and over again "I can't bear it" (painkillers don't work on this, it goes when it wants to). I remember saying the same thing to myself last year, when I fell deeply in love with someone and couldn't be with him. Of course it goes away eventually, but it's not in my control.
This is Pluto in the 8th. It's making me so curious about this raw, passionate vitality that is emerging. And I know the purpose of all this. It's a shedding of the Cancerian shell (obviously a thick one!) This welling up of emotion, and dealing with physical and emotional pain, is so that I can find the gold of Pluto in the 5th. You can't hope to create without feeling.
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Post by ana on Jan 20, 2009 8:05:44 GMT
My friends daughter is Cancer Sun early on and 24 She has just had wisdom tooth X rays done for extractions and her first real relationship has come to an end cos the man got fed up with her heavy handed nagging about his heavy handed behavior towards cars and other yobbos in the street when he has drunk too much which is often They are both tall and unsubtle but lovable to some extent..........
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Post by ariesmoon on Feb 9, 2009 21:03:03 GMT
Something rather strange and "Plutonian" happened this evening. Two guys came to the door, as it was getting dark, professing to be from a wellknown UK company, but not offering any ID or information to support it, despite my asking. Very plausible on the surface, one with all the patter of a magician, the other completely silent, standing behind him like a shadow, and with eyes that never left me. Both very dark, in dark coats, and the silent one unnervingly magnetic and good-looking. It was all quite good-humoured, I wasn't falling for it and they knew it, and they went away empty-handed after a few minutes. I didn't (of course) invite them in. Shady rather than menacing, but there was something sufficiently suspicious about them for me to phone the company, and then the police.
It may be something or nothing, they may be genuine reps or they may be genuine conmen with an ulterior motive. There was an air of false charm, they certainly told me lies about speaking to my neighbours, and there was a definite undercurrent. Like muddy water. They had my name, the fact that I was single, and had bothered to climb up a 30 ft outside staircase in torrential rain to stand on my doorstep. They hadn't visited neighbours on the ground floor.
It felt like Pluto had come to my door. To test just how gullible I could be - I am inclined to think the best of people, and I hate being suspicious. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't really ever been exposed to the darker side of human nature - I tend to avoid reading too much news. A few years ago, I might have let them in. But these two, well, I felt like maybe they belonged in a dark alley, not in daylight.
Pluto is opposite my Sun. Does it happen that in heavy planetary transits like this, we get archetypes appearing in our lives to make sure we're aware of the energies?
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 10, 2009 20:51:09 GMT
Ariesmoon, I think we do get the planets manifesting on our doorsteps, yes. It may be for no other reason than, as you say, awareness of the energy. As Jung said, 'we people our lives with bits of our Self' and I would say that was a bit of your Pluto coming in the front door.
I like that you said they were genuine, either genuine reps or genuine cons. That's a good approach.
Tell me, if you had dreamed this, what do you think it would mean? What's the message from your unconscious?
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Post by ariesmoon on Feb 11, 2009 16:42:56 GMT
That's a really good way to look at it Kim, what would I think if I'd dreamt this encounter.
I'd be looking immediately for symbolism, and probably concluding that the two of them represented the two sides of something, or most likely someone. The chatty front, full of salesman's stories, and the silent, charismatic, watchful (and maybe shy) person underneath.
And my being wary, nervous, not trusting, not wanting to let them (him) in to my space.
Someone I would love to be with has a Scorpio Ascendant, and Mars in Gemini, which fits the bill exactly ..! If I'd been asked, I'd have said I'd fall into his arms without question, and stay there for the next 40 years. But maybe deep down I'm scared to, because those two very different "faces" unnerve me.
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Post by ariesmoon on Jun 3, 2009 18:28:55 GMT
An update on this transit. Two of the men I most love in my life - my Dad being one of them - are going through what can only be described as a descent into the underworld. Both have had their power wrenched away from them. With my Dad, it's a very Plutonic illness - leaving him physically weak and ungrounded. With the other man, it's different circumstances - I don't want to say too much - but the same effect. He's much younger but is so like my Dad in so many ways, physically and temperamentally.
I know this is Pluto - through the 8th, in Capricorn, and opposing my Sun. What stronger metaphor could you get than seeing two men you love be almost stripped to the bone emotionally like this. And to have no power myself to influence it. I am so torn, as every ounce of me wants to be with both of them simultaneously as even though I can't prevent what's happening to them, I can nurture and protect. These are such fierce emotions.
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Post by Aphrodite on Jun 4, 2009 15:56:33 GMT
You are right. Classic Pluto. It doesn't make the situation any easier to know that, though. I am so sorry for your pain, and for theirs. Take good care of yourself and stay strong. Keep the faith as best you can. We are here for you.
Love and light to you and your family,
Aphrodite
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Post by ariesmoon on Jun 6, 2009 14:54:38 GMT
Thank you so much for your loving words, Aphrodite - I've just returned from seeing my Dad, and from some soul-searching (Pluto again) conversations with my Mum. We've reached the stage now where she knows she doesn't have to hide anything from me, or try to protect me from painful truths. And our relationship, already strong, is even stronger and deeper for that.
I concentrated on giving Dad a half an hour of Reiki when I visited him, and on trying to bring positive news and energy to him. And on trying to alleviate, or at least reduce, the Pluto fears that radiate from him. Leaving him in hospital when I went home was one of the most wrenchingly tough things I've ever done, and I know my mum goes through this every day. Dad isn't only stripped to the bone emotionally, he's stripped physically too - he's shrunk, gone into himself. She is so strong (Sun conjunct Pluto in Cancer) but doesn't see it in herself, so I've been trying too with her to tell her how strong she appears to me.
What I'm even more aware of after this weekend is the immense, searching, Plutonian version of love. Love so deep that it's lasted 60 years this year, that it transforms everything it touches, and pares away anything and everything irrelevant to get to the deepest truths. It shows itself in that kind of devotion. They are simply lost without each other.
I'm clearly ready to see this, up close and personal, having recast my chart and discovered Scorpio on my 7th house cusp.
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Post by airedale on Jun 6, 2009 21:09:10 GMT
Ariesmoon,
You certainly are experiencing intensity. It can be heart wrenching to watch the people we love go thru the things they go thru. My thoughts are with you too.
It sounds like you are doing a very good job staying present and connecting with your Dad. I think if we can stay conscious and appreciative during these times, some of the most ordinary or mundane interactions can bring much comfort.
Peace and healing to you.
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Post by ariesmoon on Jun 14, 2009 20:23:49 GMT
Thanks airedale for your support and kind words - things improving, slowly.
Another manifestation of this Pluto/Sun transit seems to be exhaustion - I'm eating well, sleeping well (apart from waking early with the summer sun!) but am washed out tired. And yet people keep saying how well I look. I had a sound healing treatment yesterday, and came home and slept for an hour - today did a bit of housework, and slept for an hour and a half. It's still light here, only 9.20 pm, and I need to get to bed!
We all know Pluto transits are about transformation - I hadn't realised how shattering it could be. I've just read an article - Donna Cunningham I think - which talks about taking special notice of transits when they mirror natal aspects. I have Pluto in a fairly tight (3 degree - Sun applying) sextile with the Sun, so Pluto opposite Sun is echoing that. She says that when worked with consciously, the more challenging transits can help you better realise the potential of the natal aspect.
I like this. And I'll try to work more consciously with it from now on.
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Post by ariesmoon on Jun 23, 2009 21:53:19 GMT
Not really sure where to put this but Pluto opposite Sun seems a great place to start!
Firstly - revelations, startling ones - about an astrology chart I've been working on for months, and suddenly I can rectify an Ascendant which has been a complete mystery to me. I don't know the birth time, and nothing seemed to fit, and the subject seemed to be a combination of so many different signs, I just couldn't pin it down. Why? Because it's Pisces - it was bound to be shrouded in fog and mystery, and to be so elusive! Once I hit that button, I got it very quickly, and everything in the chart slotted into place. Progressions, transits and solar returns all hit key degrees. A gift from Uranus, I think - in Pisces, working through my 11th house!
And two pieces of jewellery, both of which I thought I'd lost forever, have turned up in the strangest of places. One of them, a beautiful pendant with a figure of Isis, fell out of a bag of cotton wool in my bathroom and must have been there months. Re-reading the story of Isis I realised how Plutonic it really is, so knew I needed to wear the pendant!
And then today - I've had to face two of my biggest fears, and just "get on with it". One, a swarm of bees around my front door (mortar bees, all trying to find nesting sites in the brickwork), and two, an accident involving broken glass in the kitchen at work. The glass accident rattled me - no-one was hurt, and it was something which could have happened to anyone, but it brought up all my 10th house Saturn fears about being seen to be "doing the right thing" in my job - a basic horror of making mistakes, and I was very hard on myself.
And then the bees. In my current NLP course, we're going to be looking at phobia cures. I'd been going to offer up "flying insects" as one of mine, but don't think I need to now. I found I could even be quite relaxed in my front hall with a dozen or so bees coming in through the central heating vent, I was just opening a window and letting them out.
Two fears in one day - and a bad fall on a pavement last Friday which left me feeling like I'd been beaten up - all seems a bit much but they all seem to be about slowing down. I fell because I was rushing to catch the post, I had the accident at work because I was hurrying to do two things at once, and bees, well they symbolise busyness, and industrious activity. As Denise Linn says in her book "Signposts" - bees can be a symbol telling us to "just BE"!
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Post by ariesmoon on Mar 16, 2010 17:24:22 GMT
Pluto still opposite the Sun, and isn't it making its presence felt! My dear Dad has recently had to have a skin cancer removed - it made itself very visible, very quickly. That's the second time skin cancer has affected men in my close family in the last 2 years. Pluto really does seem to be manifesting itself by Plutonian events happening to men I love.
And my sense of self - who I really am at my core - is changing too. After years of playing roles for people I'm finally finding out who I am. I came back to my home on Sunday this week after a very intense few days supporting my mum and dad - emotionally and physically draining stuff. I felt scoured out, stripped down from the inside out. I realised at work on Monday that I didn't know who I was anymore - I play the daughter, I play the receptionist at work, I play the friend who's frequently a shoulder to cry on - but who's Jan? Who is she really when she's not playing a role? I realised I needed some space to get back in touch with her, so I'm taking some time out of work to just rediscover what's inside me.
I've also got my computer back after 3 weeks of it being out of action. I hadn't remembered saying to the engineer that he could take everything off the system .. which he had to, so I've lost my entire set of documents and photos (and no, I hadn't backed them up, although I do still have some photos on my camera). Talk about a Plutonian purge - I now have to rebuild the system from scratch!
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Post by ana on Mar 27, 2010 13:25:43 GMT
Just caught up with this thread after a long time as my memory and my life are a bit chaotic Enjoy your posts AMoon cos you explain things so clearly............... I am interested in what is happening to you with the Sun aspect as I have the Moon opp one Very different but the same archetypes popping up in female guise.............. can learn a lot from these threads............ and it also helps to know some one else is seeing similar patterns and symbols.............x
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Post by ariesmoon on Mar 28, 2010 2:33:30 GMT
hi ana and good to see you on here again! I'm catching up myself too - thanks for your kind comments. Not sure if to put these comments here or start a new one as they concern my Moon as much as the Sun but it is all about personal identity which seems to be a Pluto/Sun thing!
I work in a family centre in a very diverse neighbourhood in my town and we had a family fun day yesterday which attracted 1700 people from many different nationalities. We'd all been involved in organising it for weeks so we were thrilled at the number of people who turned up.
I realised half way through the afternoon that my birthchart is coming alive there - a Cancer 3rd house (Neighbourhood) with the ruling Moon in the 12th (it's run by the local council and public health body). I've got almost a mother status there, I'm the receptionist so people come to me first and I end up cuddling and singing to babies in reception. People confide in me and I ended up making countless cups of tea and coffee yesterday to support stall holders and workers and protecting them when it looked like numbers were going to overwhelm them. As a result today I'm overwhelmed myself - my poor 12th house Moon needs to retreat!
This job has made my Cancer sun shine in a way it never has before, and I love it for that. I felt very strong yesterday, full of power and wasn't even fazed when a stressed mum shouted at me about the queues. But it's also made me realise the old dictum about Cancerians is very true - given the chance they will nurture everyone but themselves. I see it in the way my mum is caring for my dad,and I see it in how I'm doing that job.
I need to be much more in touch with my own needs - which, being a 12th house Moon, intercepted in Aries in the 12th - are about me-time in private. Yes I love being a public face in a building full of children but I should equally love having private space to do my own thing, which may be no thing at all. I come straight home from work and onto the computer and start connecting with the world again, or I ring my mum, and I'm going to have to cut that down if I'm going to start nurturing myself as much as I'm looking after others.
All this occurring to me at 2 in the morning - wide awake, totally overwhelmed by yesterday!
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