Sun Parallel Moon in Synastry

[alisa]

Do you think that Sun parallel Moon in Synastry (2.5 degree) would be significant? What should be the difference in meaning/feeling compared to Sun conjunct Moon?

Thanks

Alisa

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Alisa,

The Mo/Su parallel is interpreted as a conjunction--it is a conjunction by declination. I only use one degree or 1.25 degrees of orb max though for both parallel and contra-parallels though.

I think these declination contacts tend also to strengthen the zodiac aspect between the planets involved. If you have sun widely trine moon and they are parallel, you get a ‘more potent’ trine.

The only difference in working out the parallels and contra-parallels is there are basically no orbs these declination conjunctions and opposition.

Can anyone else add something here?

Warmly,
Kim

[sednason]

I'll try.

I think planets that are parallel or contra-parallel to each other seem to work as a team or as a cohesive unit. They harmonize quite well together and merge their energies well.

A Venus-Saturn conjunction will be harsher than a Venus-Saturn parallel or contra parallel in my experience. The parallel will infuse the energy of Saturn into Venus without harming Venus too much, i.e. the love life, money, self-worth, etc. The conjunction is a different story of course.

SS

[cpolk]

I've noticed this too, that a pair of planets in parallel share a harmonious connection - even if the pairing isn't necessarily harmonious.

I had an exact Pluto parallel mars with someone a few years ago. the synastric aspect was semi-squared. so instead of the "inciting each other to violence" what we actually got was someone who could validate our anger and destructive urges, and inspire us into taking those emotions and shaping them into something useful and life changing. He helped me see that my anger and frustration was not "unacceptable" or "bad" but a sign that I had an unexpressed need - to seek that need out, nurture it, and *act* to fulfill that need.

So I would rant on and on in my usual bitingly sarcastic way, and he wouldn't bat an eyelash. I could pound him with my anger, and it wouldn't rock him an inch, and then I'd say, "I'm sorry."

And he'd say, "what for?"

and I'd say because anger is unacceptable blah blah blah. and he said, "you do me an honor, sharing that with me. you act angry. what's going on underneath it?" and at some point I'd get at what was really going on, and see it clearly, and understand what to *do.*

I helped him take powerful urges to tear everything down and channel them into symbolic acts that did not harm and acknowledged grief and loss - and in the end they turned into something else that changed his life. he went to another country to teach ESL rather than act in revenge; but the precipitating action was that he shaved his head instead of what he wanted to do. when he got to that country, someone saw his shaved head and asked him if he was there to be a monk. he laughed and said no... but became more and more drawn to monks. as he said to me in an email, "I see them everywhere, running around in yellow bedsheets, and they irritate me because they are so. damned. happy all the time!"

and I asked him, "why don't you ask them why they seem so happy?"

I didn't hear from him for months - until he sent me a picture of him, taken while he was meditating. head still shaved, but more relaxed, serene, and glowingly happy than I've ever seen him. the only message was, "no hair means something different to me now."

I'm pretty sure I understand what that means.

His mars; my pluto.

[Aphrodite]

What a great story! Aspects be dammed... today I learned something from you and your friend about how to live your life right: how to properly and positively handle anger and how to be a good friend. Thanks! :-)

[cpolk]

That's why I like the policy of not value judging aspects. Most astrologers would look at that mars-pluto and see it as bad. It could have been "bad" but it doesn't have to be.

I mean, a "nice" trine between venus and jupiter could equal a life of plenty and pleasure on the outside, but behind the scenes it's massive debt and anxiety over keeping up appearances.

[blueorchids]

AthenasOwl, wow what a great story and it really clarfiies what the positive hidden impact of the parallel can be.

[Aphrodite]

Oh my! My venus trine jupiter doesn't really worry about the money. I have faith it will be there and it shows up. I'm not that greedy about money, though. Now... it would be accurate to end your statement with "massive WEIGHT and anxiety over keeping up appearances." My venus is in Cancer and the problem is expanding waistline, not budget! I know the pennies are all safe in my mattress, but where is the food? ;D

[erosinvirgo]

Hi forum,

I'm new here, and really appreciate that forum.
I wonder if the parallel and contra-parallel have the same effect, act like conjonction or some kind of fusion? or parallel = conjonction and contra-parallel= opposition. It's perhaps kind of stupid but it's important for me to be sure.
thanks

[Kim Falconer]

Hi Erosinvirgo,

Welcome to the forum.

I think the first thing to grasp with parallels AND with any longitudinal aspects, is that they represent connections. The energy of two or more planets or points are brought into action with each other in some way by aspect or parallel/contra-parallel declinations.

The more I see over the decades, the more I feel the fact that they are connected at all is of greater significance than 'how' they are connected. Whether trine, sextile, square, inconjunct or parallel--think first of the energy of the bodies or points as two actors on stage that have been scripted to interact. The HOW is a combination of the archetypes involved, the signs they are in, the houses and the aspect or declination degrees.

To answer your question straight up, traditionally the Parallel is read as a conjunction (NN or SS) and the contra-parallel as an opposition (NS).

Does this make sense?

Warmly,
Kim