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Post by Bodaciousbabe on Oct 26, 2004 16:14:43 GMT
Hi Kim et all,
I've been contemplating "inconjunct" aspects like the semisqaure, sesquisqaure and Quincunx. In traditional astrology these aspects are read as inharmonious. But I've been comparing the synastry charts of myself and members of my family (we are all very close,) myself and my husband, and myself and another very intense other situation. (at least it's very intense for me!)
I am wondering if these aspects actually mean that the two planets want very much to communicate, but aren't sure how to connect. There is a desire to communicate but they don't know each other's language. Or something is off, like the timing of the realtionship. It's like seeing someone across a crowded room that you'd like to get to know, but you can't get across the room.
Kim, your thoughts on these aspects?
For example, what might be one interpration of My Sun/His Moon conjungation ((19/20 degree Gemini) Quincunx his Uranus in 5th house Scorpio? There is a strong Uranus/Aquarius theme to both charts.
I've also been wondering about "degree of orb" when an asteroid is within 5-6 degrees of a planet. It seems like the strength of the planet would "pull in" the influence of the asteroid. Again, your thoughts?
Brain ready to blow up.
Bodaciousbabe (Sun and Mercury and Sappho in Eighth House Gemini)
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Post by Bodaciousbabe on Oct 26, 2004 17:31:35 GMT
Dear Kim,
I must add to this post--My first house is in Scorpio, although my rising sign is 20 degrees Libra. Also, My Saturn is at 27 degrees Scorpio while his Uranus is at 20 degrees Scorpio. Is this considered Conjunct?
Thanks, BB (I suppose this could be BodaciousBabe or Brain ready to Blow)
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Post by Bodaciousbabe on Oct 26, 2004 17:33:22 GMT
I meant my rising sign is at 29 degrees Libra. Typing too fast without proofing. Sorry for the incovenience.
BB
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 27, 2004 2:02:42 GMT
Hello BB,
First up, I would consider your Saturn and his Uranus as conjunct. Up to 10 degree orbs for conjunctions (even larger when luminaries are involved) seem to “work”. As Liz Greene always says, if it acts like an aspect, it probably is one! So, does it feel like you two have this synastry contact?
When considering the inconjuncts, like any aspect the first step is to realize they are CONNECTED at all. Forget about “how” to start with. First realize they are inexorably linked. It is probably more important to understand how the planets themselves “get along” than the aspect that connects them.
If Mars and the Sun (remember the Sun is exalted in Aries) are inconjunct, there is going to be a “smoother” blending of energy than if Mars and Neptune are inconjunct. Mars and the Sun have some commonality, Mars and Neptune not so much. Howard Sasportas (I am quoting my heroes today) said that aspects are like table legs. You pick one leg up and the others follow. In the first example, when you “do” the Sun (shine out in your distinct individuality, set goals, create) you get Mars (drive, ambition, healthy aggression). In the later, when you assert your healthy ego drives, you get Neptune (the desire to diffuse, disappear, surrender ego). See the difference?
The inconjuncts link SIGNS that are not of the same polarity, element or modality. I think that is where the feeling of “difficulty communicating” lies. The orientation is different, so there can be a kind of resistance at first. Sun in Gemini is light, energetic and oriented towards thoughts and playful (educational) exchange. (inconjunct to) Mars in Scorpio is deep, brooding, oriented towards intense and transformational exchange. (or inconjunct to) Mars in Cancer which is cautious, protective oriented towards exchange that builds bonds.
In your example, Sun inconjunct Uranus has less trouble because the Sun in Gemini can adapt to the radical changes of Uranus, the sudden events that others find so confronting. Although the Scorpion ( in this case incredible will) can seem inflexible at times, there is an Air quality (Uranus) that Gemini picks up on and enjoys.
With his natal Moon inconjunct Uranus you get a restless feeling that things are never quite safe or stable. Obviously, the Sun is more comfortable with this than the Moon. It can feel like the rug will be pulled out whenever one isn’t watching and that can make someone quite jumpy on the emotional level.
Does this make sense? Realize that the Moon and Uranus are connected (or in synastry the Sun and Uranus) and get a grasp on what that may mean. Then you can go into the next layer of what signs and houses are involved.
Joanne Wickenburg (definitely quoting the favourites today) said that the inconjunct by transit was like driving along in a car and suddenly finding a detour. Without knowing how, you find yourself in a completely different place!
I think that is what the inconjuncts are like. They don’t flow so smoothly that we see the process of “where we are going” but we get there, just the same.
Anyone else have some thoughts on this important aspect?
Thanks for your question.
Warmly, Kim
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Post by svenskasfinx on Oct 27, 2004 7:48:34 GMT
Hello all, I see the inconjunct or quincux (150 degrees) also as a kind of connection of energies which under normal conditions wouldn't blend easily-- because of this I notice that these aspects express themselves most comfortably with maturity (or is it just me?). I see the energies as being a bit off-beat, and I find Kim's explanation of taking a detour where you don't know where you are going, very very accurate! I get the impression that planets connected by inconjunct are energies that are compelled to have to work in ways that are different than what they would usually work in, and the signs and houses of that connection give clues to how and why, aside from the symbols of things represented by the planets themselves. It can add for confusion, but it can also add adventure and creativity, as the merging of things in seemingly unharmonious ways, sounds a bit odd, and even in an opposition there is something of common ground between the two in which they can balance and relate, as long as they are given equal grounds, the inconjunct aspect does not work in that way, as sometimes the planets work together that seem to go beyond what one could consider "normal" or what we may call equally (kind of like the relationship in a family, everyone has the same value although their "jobs" are different). I have to stop this train of thought because my son is being a bit restless and wants to use the computer (he's only 3).. But I thought I'd add my perceptions of that aspect since I am a great admirer of the "uncommon" aspects. My favourite being the quintile (72 degrees). (I don't know why.) hope this adds something, sfinxen
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Post by Kim Falconer on Oct 29, 2004 0:30:21 GMT
Hej Svenskasfinx, Thank you. That certainly does add something! And, yes. I feel maturity (or experience) seems to make a difference on how the energies are integrated. Here is a link with some solid information on the inconjunct for further study. www.cafeastrology.com/articles/inconjunctaspects.htmlWarmly, Kim
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