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Post by gemstar on Apr 30, 2006 23:22:04 GMT
From time to time, I see someone mention the asteroid Fortuna. Finally I looked it up in my chart and found it located in my Sag 2nd house at 28 and sometime next year will have tr Pluto conjuncting it! Hmmm.... So I did a thread search and did not find one here...and decided to start a posting on this fortuitous asteroid. How does it affect the planets or houses? My Fortuna is also opposed my natal GEM Sun in 8th and square to natal PIS Saturn in 5th...does this mean that I will/must continue to work hard and if so, good fortune will result? Fortune here may mean much more than tangible riches...What attributes have you all found which Fortuna brings to a chart? Thanks!! Oooo...it is also conjunct my true love's NNode!!  Hugs- GemStar PS-After googling, I have not really found much information. Kim has a bit on it and stated it creates ease and joy when another's planet conjoins it. Ok....the must be more. It sounds too cool of a name to be that dull of a definition! |
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Post by jamma on May 1, 2006 6:19:24 GMT
Wow, Gem, this is weird ... my Fortuna is conjunct yours ... 28 Sag 41 (but in the 12th) ... weird, because I am sooooooooooo much older than you ...  ... btw, not sure if I've noticed a lot of "good luck," but Fortuna is also conjunct my adjusted ascendant for the town where I live now ... but come to think of it, when I first saw this place, I KNEW I had to live here ... wish I could get that same feeling of "just knowing" about a man ...  ... xxoxx J |
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Post by gemstar on May 1, 2006 12:58:14 GMT
Hey Jamma....my exact Fortuna is 28 Sag 46!! Whoa!! Well, my big 4-0 is next month on June 20th....so I am not so sure you are soooooooo much older than I!! Re-the KNOWING....I have never attributed it to Fortuna, but then again, I have a lot of other 'sensitive' aspects which make me ULTRA-ULTRA sensitive to vibrations..... Fortuna is different than Pars Fortunae in some ways.....my PF is also in Sag...Sag 13 degrees and conj my name asteroid and Adonis in my 1st house!! One of the ways maybe that Fortuna has shown in my life may be this: For everything I have, I must work very hard....and trust that the best will come to me, despite everyone (seemingly) around me being given so much more with less effort. In the end though, I come out waaaaaaaay ahead of these people.....it is almost like the waiting and working brings EXTRA good things to me....and I seem to fair better in the long run!! Does this make sense? Because it is on my axis between 2nd and 8th houses.....perhaps it challenges my Sun to remember the 'joy and ease' of values and not get overwhelmed when I have to wait/work hard for the gifts...?? I am not sure I am conveying what I mean....For example-when many of my friends became married, I was the last one to find someone and ultimately, had the best marriage! Same with material things...most people I knew had so much given to them financially and I had to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet (during University time) and in the long run, I have enjoyed much more financial success (even with college loans due etc...) than the people who had so much given to them financially! It is really bizarre! Ok....maybe Kim will have a moment to pop in here before we go off on other tangents...Fortuna sounds like a lovely Flower to me.....I think it is cool that ours is conjunct Jamma and now I am curious about your age....I can not recall darnit!! As for the 'knowing' with a man, it is the same feeling you felt when you 'KNEW' you had to live where you are now.....it simply takes a lot of weeding through people and patience!! Being with anyone less never feels the same to me....I have to KNOW with a man. Period. Hugs- GemStar |
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Post by jamma on May 1, 2006 19:42:00 GMT
Gem ... Well, bless Synchronicity, my Pars Fortunae is also in Sag -- 18 Sag 46 ... opposite Uranus at 17 Gem 47 ... How oooooold am I? My mama taught me a lady only ever has to say she's "over 21" ... but now I'm heading toward 3 times that! Cheers ... J P.S. You have permission to refer to me as O Ancient One (everyone else must still use the formal appellation -- She Who Must Be Obeyed) ... |
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Post by gemstar on May 2, 2006 0:52:14 GMT
Hey Jamma....now you have me confused...is your Fortuna at Sag 28 or Sag 18??
For everyone else...where does your Fortuna land in your chart? Is it conjunct any planets which you can express with this asteroid?? Please share your ideas.....do you have a good feel for Fortuna iin your chart?
Hugs-
GemStar
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Post by jamma on May 2, 2006 5:34:55 GMT
Ahem ...
To clarify, my asteroid Fortuna is at 28 Sag ...
My natal arabian Part of Fortune is at 18 Sag ...
Since I just found out about asteroid Fortuna, I haven't figured out exactly how she manifests ...
But Sagittarius seems to be potent energy for me (also have Eros, South Node, Euphrosyne, Mnemosyne and Oceana buzzing around 7 degrees Sag) ... I would say I tend to feel buoyant and "lucky" even though life sometimes seems bent on dishing out Jupiter-size portions of cold porridge ...
Of course, I make up for it by eating cake whenever I can, and Fortuna at 28 Sag makes the perfect icing!
That said, I welcome all and any Gemini input, as I crave and NEED that quicksilver mental acuity, backed up by the facts and lots of creativity! (Also, cuz I just love you Gemini darlin's!) ...
May Fortuna bless us all ...
xox
P.S. The big 4-Oh ushers in the SUPER SEXY 40s -- twas my best and hottest decade (yet!)
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Post by gemstar on May 2, 2006 11:32:49 GMT
OOOOoooo Jamma....I LIKE your idea of the Super Sexy 40s!! Perhaps as tr Pluto conjuncts our point at 28 Sag, this will portend more joy and ease with lucky happenings! Though off subject a bit, I feel pretty darn sexy at nearly 40....and have found the younger men approaching more than ever....like 10-15 years younger! That is a weird one for me....but hey, it keeps life interesting.... I tried Botox for the first time 2 months ago and it was not good for my system. My eyes became puffy and I think my first House Neptune was not too happy with the 'chemical' intrusion. I look young everywhere else except my under-the-eye wrinkles caused by laughing and smiling so much....(my excuse and I'm sticking with it!!) Ha,ha!! What a disappointment that experience was.....darn. Who wants to look like they need a nap? Where is that elastin when you need it?? OK..back to subject.....I know a lot of you are checking in on this thread.....we want to learn more about Fortuna....Jamma and I are about at the same place regarding this asteroid.....if you are reading this, check your chart for #19 and see where it lands.....think about which house it is located in and what, if anything, can possibly be attributed to this asteroid? There is not much information on it out there. Certainly Kim will be the most knowledgable....she is the Queen of Asteroids as far as I am concerned. Just jot down a few thoughts/words which describes it for you and post 'em....remember, just a simple description of what it means to you may trigger a thought with someone else who is reading here. We all learn....even though we digress into other personal thoughts at times (hey, what do you want from a Gemini in the first place?) Hee-hee... PS-Go Jamma....your Spirit is just fabulous and your energy is always solid-I like you! Hugs- GemStar |
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Post by primamateria on May 2, 2006 12:24:48 GMT
ooh you guys have started something very interesting! ;D
I checked for Fortuna... 8 degrees Libra in the fourth house....Retrograde! She's part of that 'cluster' of mine I guess. (pluto, IC, jupiter, south node, uranus...fortuna? ALL retrograde)
Pars Fortunae is at Scorpio 22....
key words... for Fortuna in Libra: blessings in disguise.
hmm. I'll really have to do some homework I think!
Anyone know any websites that feature her?
joy, pm
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Post by gemstar on May 2, 2006 15:12:55 GMT
Hey Prima....Wow, your Fortuna as part of that RETROGRADE stellium...what is with that?? I have never seen a cluster of retrogrades like that before!! All in 4th? That is really wild!! OK..Blessings in disguise. Why do you think they are disguised? Is there something about Libra which feels disguised for you? With Libra, I have read about this secondary undercurrent and wondered if that is what you are referring to? Do you feel you have unusual Blessings? Feelings of joy at times of transformation? Maybe someone will post a website with better info....I did a brief Google and other than one written in chinese letters, I did not come up with much......I wonder if it is a 'lighter' version of Pars Fortunae? Well....maybe not as PF is a calculated point.....I just like her name....FORTUNA. Don't you?? Hugs- GemStar |
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Post by tom on May 2, 2006 16:28:56 GMT
hm, just checked mine - part of my libra stellium:
venus 10 Li 14
fortuna 10 Li 48
pallas 11 Li 49
ASC 12 Li 04
these are trine rx saturn in gemini/9th, sextile neptune-mercury-moon in sagittarius/2nd-3rd, opposing rx chiron.
not sure what to say about fortuna in there - wanted to contribute the placement - i'll check back and comment again if anything strikes me. though it occurs to me that less hard i work, the more comes to me. and yes, in the form of other people. oh - thinking of the ASC-DSC as the magnetic axis (and the MC-IC as gravitational, vertex-antivertex as electrical), i'm clear that i draw to me what i need, whatever it is. so far it's been a lot of people to show me things (and in that a lot of venus/libra lessons), but has begun to be things and resources, as i've begun opening to them, and not just the idea of people.
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Post by gemstar on May 2, 2006 18:16:49 GMT
Hello Tom....that is a nice sextile to your 2nd house....Venus home in Libra....at the very end of your 12th......Fortuna colors it nicely! That placement is a nice little grouping on your ASC axis. Libra likes the partnership and I think it is cool that your recognize things/people/resources being brought to you over the course so far-great! I think a Libra ASC will appreciate that especially!
The less hard you work, the more that comes to you....do you believe that maybe it has more to do with not 'forcing' things and thus, things fall into place easier??
Personally, my Scorp ASC wants control and it is often a balance for me to kick back and let things fall where they may.....my current icky Nep sq Nep transit at my IC is killing me and it is really making things foggy so that I have no choice but to let things fall into place. Such a foreign concept for me....always the hard-charger, though seemingly lucky at times to!!
Thanks Tom....Fortuna must certainly assist your Venusian attributes!!
Hugs-
GemStar
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Post by blueorchids on May 2, 2006 19:46:13 GMT
My Fortuna is 16 Gemini conjunct my Descendant (2-3orbs) sextile my 8th house URANUS. I'm not sure what it brings or stirs up. I consider myself extraordinarily fortunate in terms of the compassionate kindhearted people I draw into my life. I always thought that was having my Ascendant Sag 13 on the Great Attractor Sag 14. LOL.
I would have to think a bit more about it. I have also trolled the internet extensively for this asteroid and found very little--lots on PARS Fortunae though...
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Post by q on May 24, 2006 5:13:39 GMT
Hey everyone! I'm posting tons and being a forum sleeper but my asteroid obsession is out of control. My Fortuna is in Sag, conjunct Neptune and Bacchus (!!!) in the first house. Without even thinking about it too much, my astrology intuition says this is so true...I think it would really make me like to have fun and joy (NN in 5th house agrees.) Ive found the most truths in my life when I was the most free and fun loving. Does this fit with fortuna in sag near bacchus? just guessing around here.
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